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Here's actual deliverance ministry footage inside churches of Christians having demons cast out of them or bound in the name of jesus!!
Proof That Christians Have Demons!! Actual (Deliverance Ministry Footage)!!
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Proof That Christians Have Demons!! Actual (Deliverance Ministry Footage)!!
It is impossible for a true child of God a true Christian to be possed by a demon because they are filled with the Holy Spirit.
It is impossible for a true child of God a true Christian to be possed by a demon because they are filled with the Holy Spirit.
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I've been coming against this all week in another forum!! let me ask you this, if I have a splinter in my hand does the splinter control me?
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ohh and check my other thread for actual videos!! Proof That Christians Have Demons!! Actual (Deliverance Ministry Footage) With Videos!! I forgot to put dem in dis one and couldn't edit afterwards!!
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actually you seem to be missing the fact that there is no proof these people are Christians, many people claim to be Christians but are not at all. I hope this article helps you to look at scripture for your proof and not U tube videos.
But what about the question of whether a Christian can be possessed? First John 5:18 says, “We know that anyone born of God does not continue to sin; the One who was born of God keeps them safe, and the evil one cannot harm them.” This would seem to imply Christians are safe from absolute control or possession, but not safe from significant influence. So no, a believer cannot be possessed, but he can certainly be oppressed and heavily influenced by a demon (particularly as he opens up aspects of his life to outside control and addictions)
What Role Can Satan and Demons Have in the Life of a Believer? - Eternal Perspective Ministries
Often our understanding of fallen angels is based more on superstition, tradition, and assumptions than on the Scriptures.
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actually you seem to be missing the fact that there is no proof these people are Christians, many people claim to be Christians but are not at all. I hope this article helps you to look at scripture for your proof and not U tube videos.
But what about the question of whether a Christian can be possessed? First John 5:18 says, “We know that anyone born of God does not continue to sin; the One who was born of God keeps them safe, and the evil one cannot harm them.” This would seem to imply Christians are safe from absolute control or possession, but not safe from significant influence. So no, a believer cannot be possessed, but he can certainly be oppressed and heavily influenced by a demon (particularly as he opens up aspects of his life to outside control and addictions)
What Role Can Satan and Demons Have in the Life of a Believer? - Eternal Perspective Ministries
Often our understanding of fallen angels is based more on superstition, tradition, and assumptions than on the Scriptures.
What a cop out!! ur the one making the claim, the burden of proof is on you? if you don't know then don't make silly assumptions, uv never even met anyone in this church!!
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If you were attending my Church I would have you thrown out for Heresy!
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actually your logic is spewed since you are the one who started the thread claiming they are chrisitans the burden of proof is on you !! But I wonder what real agenda do you have making such claims?? do you have any scripture to back it up? here is a article that may help you understand
Christians are indwelt by the Holy Spirit (Romans 8:9-11; 1 Corinthians 3:16; 6:19). Surely the Holy Spirit would not allow a demon to possess the same person He is indwelling. It is unthinkable that God would allow one of His children, whom He purchased with the blood of Christ (1 Peter 1:18-19) and made into a new creation (2 Corinthians 5:17), to be possessed and controlled by a demon. Yes, as believers, we wage war with Satan and his demons, but not from within ourselves. The apostle John declares, “You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them, because the One who is in you is greater than the one who is in the world” (1 John 4:4). Who is the One in us? The Holy Spirit. Who is the one in the world? Satan and his demons. Therefore, the believer has overcome the world of demons, and the case for demon possession of a believer cannot be made scripturally.
Can a Christian be demon possessed? Can a Christian be demonized? | GotQuestions.org
Can a Christian be demon possessed? Can a Christian be demonized? Would the indwelling Holy Spirit allow a Christian to also be indwelt with a demon?
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I dont see any proof here. For all I know, these people could have been drunk previously or sick.
When you find people doing this...
Mark 5 (kjv)
2 And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit,
3 Who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind him, no, not with chains:
4 Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him.
5 And always, night and day, he was in the mountains, and in the tombs, crying, and cutting himself with stones.
Mark 5 (NIV)
2 When Jesus got out of the boat, a man with an impure spirit came from the tombs to meet him.
3 This man lived in the tombs, and no one could bind him anymore, not even with a chain.
4 For he had often been chained hand and foot, but he tore the chains apart and broke the irons on his feet. No one was strong enough to subdue him.
5 Night and day among the tombs and in the hills he would cry out and cut himself with stones.
Then maybe one can say they are demon possessed. Because what I read in scripture, people demon possessed held uncanny strength that no normal human could do.
Acts 19
13 Then certain of the vagabond Jews, exorcists, took upon them to call over them which had evil spirits the name of the Lord Jesus, saying, We adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preacheth.
14 And there were seven sons of one Sceva, a Jew, and chief of the priests, which did so.
15 And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?
16 And the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, and overcame them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded.
None of the videos I have seen contain such as what the bible describes.
Also, Christians cannot be demon possessed. It is impossible. Again, it is impossible for the righteous to be possessed. There is no such scripture that states a Christian (those in a saved state) can be, nor does any imply such.
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1 Timothy 1:18-20 (NASB)
18 This command I entrust to you, Timothy, my son, in accordance with the prophecies previously made concerning you, that by them you fight the good fight,
19 keeping faith and a good conscience, which some have rejected and suffered shipwreck in regard to their faith.
20 Among these are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have handed over to Satan, so that they will be taught not to blaspheme.
1:20 Hymenaeus and Alexander might have been elders in Ephesus (see also 2 Tim 2:17; 4:14; cp. Acts 19:33; 20:29-31). • Paul handed them over to Satan by removing them from the church, the realm of the Spirit's oversight (see also 2 Tim 2:25-26; Job 2:6; Matt 18:17-20; 1 Cor 5:2-5; 2 Cor 2:5-11). • blaspheme God: They attacked and defamed the true Good News, and thus God himself (see 1:13; cp. 6:1; Titus 2:5; 2 Pet 2:2).
2 Timothy 2:15-18 (KJV)
15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus;
18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.
2:17 cancer: Literally gangrene. • Hymenaeus was earlier teamed with Alexander (1 Tim 1:20); both of them were still wreaking havoc (4:14-15).
Philetus was Hymenaeus's new accomplice.
These heretics create havoc in the church and shipwreck peoples faith!
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if your saying a person who is born again is so immune to a demon are you also saying their even immune to even the devil coz the devil
even came inside peter and he’s more righteous then me and you and all of this forum so you explain that one?
even came inside peter and he’s more righteous then me and you and all of this forum so you explain that one?
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The verse about Peter that you referred to is included in the following passage:
Similar to the way Satan has influenced you!
The passage does not specifically state that Peter was demon-possessed. Therefore, we cannot conclude that Peter was demon-possessed. However, it is clear that Satan had influenced Peter’s thinking and our Lord knew it. Other scriptures also reveal that Satan can influence our thinking and our actions even though he cannot possess a Christian. This can cause post-baptismal sin, yet if we confess our sins and repent the Lord is faithful to forgive us of our sins.
Similar to the way Satan has influenced you!
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where in my threads did I say Christians can be possessed?
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REPENT!
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Where in scripture does it say Peter was possessed by the devil? If you refer to Matthew 16, I believe you should try reading it again, in context. None of the 4 gospels states that Peter was ever possessed like that of the guy described in Mark 5 or Acts 19. Peter was "rebuking" Jesus after Jesus stated what he needed to go through. Jesus corrected him basically. Romans 6 states that we are either slaves to sin or slaves to righteousness and which ever you follow, that is your master. Peter was telling Jesus that what Jesus needed to go through was not going to happen (rebuked = disapproval or sharp criticism) which is against what the will of God intended.
Read it for yourself though, its all in there.
You did type in the words in the threads headline as....
didn't you?
If you did, then you indeed said Christians can be possessed.
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so if a person has a car are they possessed by the car?
Oh, lovely. A strawman point. Do you actually have any defense other than deflection?
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Matthew 13:24-30 (KJV)
24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
This parable Mat 13:24-30 is also interpreted by our Lord Mat 13:36-43 Here the "good seed" is not the "word," as in the first parable Mat 13:19, 23 but rather that which the word has produced. 1Pe 1:23 viz. the children of the kingdom. These are, providentially Mat 13:37 "sown," i.e. scattered, here and there in the "field" of the "world" Mat 13:38 The "world" here is both geographical and ethnic--the earth-world, and also the world of men. The wheat of God at once becomes the scene of Satan's activity. Where children of the kingdom are gathered, there "among the wheat" Mat 13:25, 38, 39 Satan "sows" "children of the wicked one," who profess to be children of the kingdom, and in outward ways are so like the true children that only the angels may, in the end, be trusted to separate them Mat 13:28-30, 40-43 So great is Satan's power of deception that the tares often really suppose themselves to be children of the kingdom Mat 7:21-23 Many other parables and exhortations have this mingled condition in view (e.g.) Mat 22:11-14; Mat 25:1-13, 14-30; Luke 18:10-14; Heb 6:4-9 Indeed, it characterizes Matthew from Chapter 13 to the end. The parable of the wheat and tares is not a description of the world, but of that which professes to be the kingdom. Mere unbelievers are never the children of the devil, but only religious unbelievers are so-called (cf) Mat 13:38; John 8:38-44; Mat 23:15
24 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
This parable Mat 13:24-30 is also interpreted by our Lord Mat 13:36-43 Here the "good seed" is not the "word," as in the first parable Mat 13:19, 23 but rather that which the word has produced. 1Pe 1:23 viz. the children of the kingdom. These are, providentially Mat 13:37 "sown," i.e. scattered, here and there in the "field" of the "world" Mat 13:38 The "world" here is both geographical and ethnic--the earth-world, and also the world of men. The wheat of God at once becomes the scene of Satan's activity. Where children of the kingdom are gathered, there "among the wheat" Mat 13:25, 38, 39 Satan "sows" "children of the wicked one," who profess to be children of the kingdom, and in outward ways are so like the true children that only the angels may, in the end, be trusted to separate them Mat 13:28-30, 40-43 So great is Satan's power of deception that the tares often really suppose themselves to be children of the kingdom Mat 7:21-23 Many other parables and exhortations have this mingled condition in view (e.g.) Mat 22:11-14; Mat 25:1-13, 14-30; Luke 18:10-14; Heb 6:4-9 Indeed, it characterizes Matthew from Chapter 13 to the end. The parable of the wheat and tares is not a description of the world, but of that which professes to be the kingdom. Mere unbelievers are never the children of the devil, but only religious unbelievers are so-called (cf) Mat 13:38; John 8:38-44; Mat 23:15
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I can't see the video.
