Proof That Christians Have Demons!! Actual (Deliverance Ministry Footage)!!

[Sue D.]

As has been previously commented -- a born-again believer has the Holy Spirit indwelling them. And He will never leave us until we are safe with Jesus Christ in eternity. And it's Also been commented that a believer Can experience Oppression by demons. And we are Also told to rebuke satan and he will flee from us.

I use the term of being born-again believer because there are lots of people who do believe in God and they do believe that Jesus Christ did exist in history -- but they need to be born-again. All of us are born physically, but it's the Spiritual birth that's More important. Lots have a Head knowledge but not a heart's belief

 

[spiriteddove05]

finally someone gets it!!

 

[Sue D.]

What is the 'it' that someone is finally getting?

And what about your experience being around kids? Observing them.

 

[spiriteddove05]

What is the 'it' that someone is finally getting?

And what about your experience being around kids? Observing them.

it doesn't matter, wat matters is if a person is lead by God!!

 

[Sue D.]

Just so it's God who's leading the person.

 

[Enxu]

If you were attending my Church I would have you thrown out for Heresy!

I think there was a misunderstanding. The OP meant that Christians could be oppressed and influenced by demons not a full blown possession whereby they lose control of themselves completely.

 

[spiriteddove05]

I think there was a misunderstanding. The OP meant that Christians could be oppressed and influenced by demons not a full blown possession whereby they lose control of themselves completely.

God said my people perish 4 a lack of knowledge!! their just ignorant man!! they have not ears 2 hear, just like the bible says!! their dull of hearing!! matthew 13:15, they cant get over their stumbling block!! romans 9:30-33

 

[Acts2:38]

I think there was a misunderstanding. The OP meant that Christians could be oppressed and influenced by demons not a full blown possession whereby they lose control of themselves completely.

No disrespect to you friend, but this idea of "half possessed" is preposterous. Christians cannot be possessed when you have scripture like Ephesians 1:13-14. Throughout scripture there is only black and white. There is never any grey area. You either have one or the other. I refer you to post #9.

Also, there is no misunderstanding. The OP'er is perfectly clear on their stance. They have 2 of the same threads up and enough comments on the matter to make it abundantly clear.

God said my people perish 4 a lack of knowledge!! their just ignorant man!! they have not ears 2 hear, just like the bible says!! their dull of hearing!! matthew 13:15, they cant get over their stumbling block!! romans 9:30-33

Interesting.

I am not the only one who placed valid scripture before you, yet you have not once defended your claim once with scripture. See post #9.

These videos you have are not proof. Find me someone who can break iron chains and can fight off 7 men, then we can talk.

 

[Enxu]

No disrespect to you friend, but this idea of "half possessed" is preposterous. Christians cannot be possessed when you have scripture like Ephesians 1:13-14. Throughout scripture there is only black and white. There is never any grey area. You either have one or the other. I refer you to post #9.

Also, there is no misunderstanding. The OP'er is perfectly clear on their stance. They have 2 of the same threads up and enough comments on the matter to make it abundantly clear.

Let me make myself clearer. When I say being oppressed or influenced by demons, I am in no way saying they are half possessed. The Ephesians passage you quoted never mentioned anything about a Christian not being able to be influenced or oppressed by demons. In fact there is not even the word “demon” or “evil spirit” in there.

The Scriptures did say we can give the devil a foothold (Ephesians 4:27) and that we need to resist the devil. (James 4:7) Apostle Paul himself had a messenger of Satan, a thorn in his flesh sent to buffet him. (2 Corinthians 12:7) This is what I am talking about in terms of being influenced or oppressed by demons and they are backed by the verses I quoted.

 

[spiriteddove05]

Let me make myself clearer. When I say being oppressed or influenced by demons, I am in no way saying they are half possessed. The Ephesians passage you quoted never mentioned anything about a Christian not being able to be influenced or oppressed by demons. In fact there is not even the word “demon” or “evil spirit” in there.

The Scriptures did say we can give the devil a foothold (Ephesians 4:27) and that we need to resist the devil. (James 4:7) Apostle Paul himself had a messenger of Satan, a thorn in his flesh sent to buffet him. (2 Corinthians 12:7) This is what I am talking about in terms of being influenced or oppressed by demons and they are backed by the verses I quoted.

He's just firing blanks man!! and he's adding hes own additives too!! no such thing as half possessed!! this is just the same emotional blabber I get in other forums, no matter how much scripture u give em they still wont accept it coz they have their own theologies and are not being lead by the spirit!! 2 thess 2 9-12. the bibles not the book of opinions and is not up for private interpretation.

And he said in my other thread dat I hadn't provided any verses 4 my points which is a darn.Rt lie I've been very clear in my threads and quoted many verses as u can see, but people like dis just make up their own paradigms as to what meats their own terms!! in islam they call it (bidah) an innovation!! just make up ur own perimeters as u go along!

Anyway all we can do is pray and hope that God removes the scales from their eyes!!

 

[Christ4Ever]

He's just firing blanks man!! and he's adding hes own additives too!! no such thing as half possessed!! this is just the same emotional blabber I get in other forums, no matter how much scripture u give em they still wont accept it coz they have their own theologies and are not being lead by the spirit!! 2 thess 2 9-12. the bibles not the book of opinions and is not up for private interpretation.

And he said in my other thread dat I hadn't provided any verses 4 my points which is a darn.Rt lie I've been very clear in my threads and quoted many verses as u can see, but people like dis just make up their own paradigms as to what meats their own terms!! in islam they call it (bidah) an innovation!! just make up ur own perimeters as u go along!

Anyway all we can do is pray and hope that God removes the scales from their eyes!!

Dear Brother,

I don't think anyone is saying "half possessed" here. There is a difference between "Oppression" and "Possession". Oppression implies the attempt to influence another by an external act, i.e. Ephesians 6:16, 2 Corinthians 12:7. While Possession is controlling another, taking over the actions/personality of another internally, i.e. Luke 4:33 - 4:36, Matthew 17:18.

Could one go from being Oppressed to being Possessed? Possible, but I'm not too sure that 1 Timothy 4:1 suggests possession, though I won't rule out the possibility of it being able to happen in this case.

I leave you with this verse: 1 John 4:4

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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[Acts2:38]

Let me make myself clearer. When I say being oppressed or influenced by demons, I am in no way saying they are half possessed.

That did clear things up, yes thank you.

The Scriptures did say we can give the devil a foothold (Ephesians 4:27) and that we need to resist the devil. (James 4:7) Apostle Paul himself had a messenger of Satan, a thorn in his flesh sent to buffet him. (2 Corinthians 12:7) This is what I am talking about in terms of being influenced or oppressed by demons and they are backed by the verses I quoted.

In all this, all I see is "temptation" but the overall is the free will choice of the one being tempted. There is nothing there that states demons can push one against their free will choice. It is the person that chooses to do sin or not. Did Paul falter or did he "run the race with endurance"? He chose to be a slave to righteousness, not sin Romans 6. See also 1 Corinthians 10:13

When it comes time for me to be judged, I cannot blame my mistakes on anything but my own choices I have made myself 2 Corinthians 5:10.

The main point being though, is that the OP stance is still false. Again, thank you for clarifying.

 

[Acts2:38]

He's just firing blanks man!! and he's adding hes own additives too!!

Actually, If you look at virtually all my posts, I use scripture. So I dont really see any "additives".

no such thing as half possessed!!

It was what I thought they said. A conversation for both them and I, that I am sure they were able to clarify for themselves. And, guess what? They did clarify it nicely.

this is just the same emotional blabber I get in other forums, no matter how much scripture u give em

I dont really recall any "emotional blabber" I did. I feel like I have been calm, collective, and ready to discuss the OP at hand.

As far as scripture, I double checked both threads you did on this very topic. And no, you have not provided ANY verses discussing your claim in the OP. I did count about 3 verses here on this thread, NONE OF WHICH dealt with your OP claim. HHmmmm.......

And he said in my other thread dat I hadn't provided any verses 4 my points which is a darn.Rt lie I've been very clear in my threads

Now, see, you put yourself in a pickle here friend. Anyone who reads this thread, AND the other one titled the same, will see it is no lie. You have not offered up NOT ONE verse defending the OP claim. I double checked just to be sure.

Of the 3 verses you did provide, NONE of them were relevant to any defense of your OP claim. Not even remotely close.

I trust anyone who reads this will see I am not lying. And I challenge you to quote any place in BOTH threads where you did provide scripture defending your OP claim.

Again, I challenge you.

quoted many verses as u can see

3 verses is not a lot. Especially when they have nothing to do with your OP claim.

Anyway all we can do is pray and hope that God removes the scales from their eyes!!

Ditto

 

[Ivan Chamurliev]

I believe that Christians can not be possessed but yes they can be certainly attacked by a demon. The Bible says so that our enemy is always out there as a roaring lion waiting for someone to devour.
They cannot be possessed because the spirit of God lives in them. And that's the point. It is because of the spirit of God, not because of ourselves. By ourselves we don't possess this power. Therefore if He is not in us we've got a trouble. Let us see and be careful what the scripture says about it. We can read in Matthew 12:43,44 "when an unclean spirit goes out of a man, he goes through dry places seeking rest and finds none. Then he says ' I will return to my house from which I came'. And when he comes, he finds it empty, swept, and put in order." So we can see that the house which is our heart was set in order by the Spirit of God. But when the evil spirit came he found it empty. He could've stayed just on the outside as it happens many times. The devil comes and attacks us but cannot overcome us because God is with us. When the house is empty anyway the situation changes. It can never stay completely empty for a long time. And here we don't speak for just stumbling in something or neglecting by mistake something in us ( even if it can start in that way ), but we speak almost about apostasy. In that case they can have control over us. We need always to consider that if we've got power over something or overcame something is because of God.