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RIB OF ADAM

Samson2020

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What exactly was it that caused God to choose the rib of Adam to make Eve?
We in this day understand that flesh is flesh and bone is bone and all of it is made from dirt. "For dust thou art and to dust thou shalt return"
So what was it that made Adams dirt (rib) more special than any other lump of dirt on the whole planet?

Or can you imagine that it is an analogy?
 
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From a Medical perspective the ribs protect the lungs. They are one of several vital organs. We need to breathe to continue life and by taking a rib it could symbolize another aspect of women.
We are meant to pair with them.
Given Steward's comment, there is a thin, water filled membrane around the heart and lungs. When pierced, you will get a mix of "blood and water". These sacs/coverings are to cushion the heart and lungs from other organs and bones.
 
@Samson2020

Greetings,
What exactly was it that caused God to choose the rib of Adam to make Eve?
We in this day understand that flesh is flesh and bone is bone and all of it is made from dirt. "For dust thou art and to dust thou shalt return"
So what was it that made Adams dirt (rib) more special than any other lump of dirt on the whole planet?

Or can you imagine that it is an analogy?

Thank you for your question.
Do you have any thoughts on this?


Bless you ....><>
 
@Samson2020

Greetings,


Thank you for your question.
Do you have any thoughts on this?


Bless you ....><>

Of course.

Since Adams dirt (Rib) was no different than any other dirt that man is made of, God was using a physical event to show what He was doing spiritually.

Now we all know that our spirit comes from God and that it returns to God upon death. The thing is we miss the fact that the only thing worthy of becoming the
sons of God are initially from God in the first place. His RIB.
Think about it. What is worthy to become a son of God that is not a part of God to begin with? An angel? No or they would be part of it but they desire to understand it instead.
Anything created? No because it is only created just like a tree or a planet. He used a very small portion of Himself to eventually create His children who someday will be the
spitting image of their older brother Jesus and their Father. When glorified, we shall have life within ourselves, sit in the throne with Jesus who sits in His Fathers throne, and as Jesus
says "Nothing shall be impossible to you" makes one pause and consider just what will we be?
Thing is the spirit within a man is feminine as David says "Let my soul make HER boast in the Lord", now when the baptism in the Holy Ghost occurs we are then the new creature
that has never existed before, because the spirit that is in us was incapable of independent life and must be sustained by the Father until the new creature has been matured
similar to a child in the womb and brought to birth. Which is what our fleshly bodies are, wombs for the new spiritual son.

Proverbs 25:2 "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honor of kings is to search out a matter."

You might say that when Jesus quoted the Psalms it was a fact and a prophetic saying at the same time. "Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are Gods?"
and in the Psalm itself it follows with "And ALL of you are children of the most High."

Most would be glad to just be a washed sinner but that falls far short from what Gods intended purpose is for us.

Peace
 
@Samson2020

thank you

[i read that proverb only about fifteen minutes ago, so I know the Lord is watching and sees all that we do.]


Bless you ....><>
 
So what was it that made Adams dirt (rib) more special than any other lump of dirt
on the whole planet?

It's important to the plan of salvation that everybody is biologically related to the
self same human origin instead of two origins.

It's also important that sin and death came into the world by means of a single
human origin rather than two. This is explained in the 5th chapter of the letter to
Romans beginning with verse 12 and continuing down to verse 21
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It's important to the plan of salvation that everybody is biologically related to the
self same human origin instead of two origins.
This is absolute in that the carnal mind of man was passed from Adam to all his children to all of us. Thus we were separated from God by design.
It's also important that sin and death came into the world by means of a single
human origin rather than two. This is explained in the 5th chapter of the letter to
Romans beginning with verse 12 and continuing down to verse 21
Most who might read this group of verses will get the sin and condemnation for ALL side but never the Justification and life through righteousness for ALL side. Much less understand
that grace will win out over sin no matter how much sin is committed.
 
Gen 2:21a-22a . . So the Lord God cast a deep sleep upon the man; and, while
he slept, He took one of his ribs and closed up the flesh at that spot. And the Lord
God fashioned the rib that He had taken from the man into a woman;

The Hebrew word translated "rib" is tsela' (tsay-law') and Gen 2:21-22 contains the
only two places in the entire Old Testament where it's translated with an English
word representing a skeletal bone. In the other twenty-nine places, it's translated
"side" which is really how tsela' should be translated because according to Gen
2:23, the material taken from Adam included some of his flesh; and seeing as how
the life of the flesh is in the blood (Lev 17:11) then I think it's safe to assume that
the flesh God took from Adam's body to construct the woman contained some of his
blood too so that the flesh was living flesh instead of dead.

In other words: we can accept "rib" if we allow it a description similar to a
barbecued rib; a serving that contains not bone alone rather, bone, blood, and
meat.

The most important thing to note in that passage is that Eve wasn't created directly
from the soil as Adam was, viz: she wasn't a discreet creation, i.e. Eve wasn't her
own unique specie.

Being as Eve was made with Adam's flesh, blood, and bones, then the flesh,
blood, and bones of her body were reproductions of his flesh, blood, and bones.
Therefore any and all progeny produced by Eve's body, whether virgin-conceived or
normally conceived, would consist of Adam's body, i.e. they would be his progeny
just as much as Eve's if any part of her body was in any way at all involved in the
conception.
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What exactly was it that caused God to choose the rib of Adam to make Eve?
We in this day understand that flesh is flesh and bone is bone and all of it is made from dirt. "For dust thou art and to dust thou shalt return"
So what was it that made Adams dirt (rib) more special than any other lump of dirt on the whole planet?

Or can you imagine that it is an analogy?
It's an "Analogy". The "Essence" that was Eve was removed from Adam, who was diminished by the process. I.e. Adam initially was Adam AND Eve, until the "Eve portion" of him was removed, and embodied in another human. That's why in Marriage the idea is that they two become ONE.
 

Ephesians 5:30-32

King James Version

30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
 
It's an "Analogy". The "Essence" that was Eve was removed from Adam, who was diminished by the process. I.e. Adam initially was Adam AND Eve, until the "Eve portion" of him was removed, and embodied in another human. That's why in Marriage the idea is that they two become ONE.
I like the idea but there had to be another spirit dispatched into eve from the Father as well. The rib was only for making her body which would be dead without that spirit.
 
I like the idea but there had to be another spirit dispatched into eve from the Father as well. The rib was only for making her body which would be dead without that spirit.
And in fact there was no "Rib" (men and women both have 24).
 
What exactly was it that caused God to choose the rib of Adam to make Eve?
We in this day understand that flesh is flesh and bone is bone and all of it is made from dirt. "For dust thou art and to dust thou shalt return"
So what was it that made Adams dirt (rib) more special than any other lump of dirt on the whole planet?

Or can you imagine that it is an analogy?

It was dirt that was alive. That contained DNA and cell production. Genetic modification. (Cell division)
 
The heart is why the rib, it is why women is made to be next to men so to make man remember what God ut in the heart. Know women are like children some will argue and be bitter when they grow old but remember the heart to remember the love God gave children why worshipping God is the model of children. Children won't question god they will obey with so much love verse in the bible. Jesus said to be the greatest in heaven you have to be like A child. The bible does not say to have A child of the heart but we all know. Children do in thier hearts love and do the good God put inmen and women.

Be like A child to inherit the kindgom of heaven, what God gave from heaven and we arrive here is in how children act in life. Women know to find the apth God gave them they must remember to be children in thier heart and do it subconsciously. Psychologist find that inner selfs are children indeed and people never change inside when they grow up becuase reality we are children all of us. The giants are adults in A way. But still does A heart of A child exist in the bible ? yes Jesus does not say it Heart of A child but in the old testament in deuteronmy says have to search it. God tell Israelites to teach the law to thier childen and uses the heart of adult to endoctrinate the heart of child so the child learns the law that way.

Heart does exist and children must learn the law to learn the way of the adults. We all know to listen your innerslef and you child like to remember what God put in. That is way women are put next to men in the ribs because it is whats next to the heart so Women can remind men about the law because psalm 40:8 his commandments are in our heart . God has put love in your heart because the law is fulfill with 2 commandments love they God and thy nieghbor witha ll the heart it is why . Women are next to thier ribs to unite the heart and thus they complete the law with loving each other and loving God with all your heart. Women are enxt so man always rememebr God's law people why they are made of rib to be next to his heart where the law and commandments were written.

Man made thier hearts like stone says the bible and forgotten why God send men and women to this world. Jesus explains it he came without power to this world to show how to fulfill God's law by living. What God went to be man to show how men do what his intended them to do love. Love thy neighbor and thy God and that is it ? simple pray, pray and pray put things in God's hands. And to be thankful always even when things go bad is wha God wants men to have in their hearts and women to do the same.

That is why women are amde fro men's rib to be next to the law as A companion suitable helper says the bible and best helper is to alawys remember the law so man does not forget the law and fulfill it. Truly God wanted men and women not to be in pain but love in the garden but the fall happen Women were thier to make man remember to love like A child, love like God loves, and love her too. Man fail this all the time men cannot love because of the fall men went to the laws of " By the point of A sword to get what he wants ", " The law of the strongest shall rule", and " An eye for an eye". Is why man falls but women reminds them of the law of God that is in thier heart and they since love more than man they understand what Jesus wants and he's will.
 
Here are the verses. Deturonmy 6:6-7 repeat the commands into the heart of your children. " heart of children " and Mathew 18:3 to be lik eA child to inherit the kingdom of heaven.
 
It's an "Analogy". The "Essence" that was Eve was removed from Adam, who was diminished by the process. I.e. Adam initially was Adam AND Eve, until the "Eve portion" of him was removed, and embodied in another human. That's why in Marriage the idea is that they two become ONE.
Pretty sure Adam was not a hermaphrodite, but I do not think you meant that.
 
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