Same Holy Spirit teaches all?

[lentz]

I am very serious in asking thisand wul really like an answer because i do not know.

In the early church, it seems everyone was on the same page.
Exceptions of course.
But if the Holy Spirit teaches all about one subject or topic in the bible,why so many interpretations.
You can ask about a certain verse or doctrine and get 100 different interpretations.

 

[MaryB08]

Wheat vs tares.
Spirit of God vs elemental spirits of the world. (Col 2)


John 16:13
However, when the Spirit of truth comes, He will guide you into all truth. For He will not speak on His own, but He will speak what He hears, and He will declare to you what is to come.

1 John 2:27
And as for you, the anointing you received from Him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But just as His true and genuine anointing teaches you about all things, so remain in Him as you have been taught.

John 14:17
even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you.

1 John 4:6
We are from God. Whoever knows God listens to us; whoever is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the Spirit of truth and the spirit of error.


John 8:47
Whoever is of God hears the words of God. The reason why you do not hear them is that you are not of God.”


1 Corinthians 2:14
The natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God. For they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.

 

[PloughBoy]

Wheat vs tares.
Spirit of God vs elemental spirits of the world. (Col 2)


John 16:13
However, when the Spirit of truth comes, He will guide you into all truth. For He will not speak on His own, but He will speak what He hears, and He will declare to you what is to come.

1 John 2:27
And as for you, the anointing you received from Him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But just as His true and genuine anointing teaches you about all things, so remain in Him as you have been taught.

John 14:17
even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you.

1 John 4:6
We are from God. Whoever knows God listens to us; whoever is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the Spirit of truth and the spirit of error.


John 8:47
Whoever is of God hears the words of God. The reason why you do not hear them is that you are not of God.”


1 Corinthians 2:14
The natural man does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God. For they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.

and

Acts 20 BSB
…29I know that after my departure, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. 30Even from your own number,men will rise up and distort the truth to draw away disciples after them. 31Therefore be alert and remember that for three years I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears.…

 

[Garee]

I am very serious in asking thisand wul really like an answer because i do not know.

In the early church, it seems everyone was on the same page.
Exceptions of course.
But if the Holy Spirit teaches all about one subject or topic in the bible,why so many interpretations.
You can ask about a certain verse or doctrine and get 100 different interpretations.

We offer private interpretations as personal commentaries of his interpretation as it is written .The Bible is the one source of Christ's faith.

2 Peter 1;19-21 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Because we walk or understand after the eternal things not seen there must be differences as oral traditions. As long as they do not do despite the fullness of His grace that works in us ,

1 Corinthians 11:19 For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.

2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

 

[MaryB08]

1Tim 4:1
Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons,

2Tim 4:3-4
3For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, 4and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.

2 Tim 3:1-5
1But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. 2For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, 4treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people. 6For among them are those who creep into households and capture weak women, burdened with sins and led astray by various passions, 7always learning and never able to arrive at a knowledge of the truth. 8Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so these men also oppose the truth, men corrupted in mind and disqualified regarding the faith. 9But they will not get very far, for their folly will be plain to all, as was that of those two men.

 

[watertolive]

Because many lean to their own understanding...
Because many are called, but few are chosen.
Because many try to climb up some other way...having never known Him to begin with.
He, alone, is the way, the truth, and the life. He, alone, is the only true Teacher. We have to enter in (through) Him; which means we have to walk wholeheartedly in heart, mind, body and strength...seeking the kingdom of God, first, then He will give us what our journey needs.

If one has the faith to seek Him; He has the power to supply all our needs.

Now, forsake ALL, and pick up your cross and follow Him.

All praise glory and honor be unto God

 

[Waggles]

I am very serious in asking thisand wul really like an answer because i do not know.

In the early church, it seems everyone was on the same page.
Exceptions of course.
But if the Holy Spirit teaches all about one subject or topic in the bible,why so many interpretations.
You can ask about a certain verse or doctrine and get 100 different interpretations.

Because not all have the Holy Spirit.
In your NT there was only one Pentecostal elect, one Pentecostal gospel, one Pentecostal faith and doctrine, one way.
After Rome and the Reformation you have a smorgasbord of choices based on the teachings of men.

 

[KingJ]

I am very serious in asking thisand wul really like an answer because i do not know.

In the early church, it seems everyone was on the same page.
Exceptions of course.
But if the Holy Spirit teaches all about one subject or topic in the bible,why so many interpretations.
You can ask about a certain verse or doctrine and get 100 different interpretations.

There are many Rom 14:5 type disagreements. IE Immaterial disagreements.

When we come to material disagreements, teachings that stem from the pits of hell, we know it is not God giving the interpretation.

False teaching

Hi All This is going to step on many toes, but here is a list of teaching I firmly believe is false. My basis for identifying a message as false is to determine if said message undermines the cross or God's nature as defined in scripture. Cross = God became flesh and lay His life down for all...

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[PloughBoy]

Because not all have the Holy Spirit.
In your NT there was only one Pentecostal elect, one Pentecostal gospel, one Pentecostal faith and doctrine, one way.
After Rome and the Reformation you have a smorgasbord of choices based on the teachings of men.

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[Garee]

Because not all have the Holy Spirit.
In your NT there was only one Pentecostal elect, one Pentecostal gospel, one Pentecostal faith and doctrine, one way.
After Rome and the Reformation you have a smorgasbord of choices based on the teachings of men.

What's Pentecostal faith ? Faith in things we we see? Faith in 50 days?

 

[Waggles]

What's Pentecostal faith ?

The gospel of the NT. The elect of the NT.
Repentance from dead works followed by baptism in water and baptism in the Holy Spirit with the Bible evidence of praying in tongues.
The manifestation and operation of the nine gifts of the Holy Spirit in the body of Christ.

 

[lentz]

The gospel of the NT. The elect of the NT.
Repentance from dead works followed by baptism in water and baptism in the Holy Spirit with the Bible evidence of praying in tongues.
The manifestation and operation of the nine gifts of the Holy Spirit in the body of Christ.

Tongues in that day was a badge. Only proof to all the church age had come. Tongues mean nothing now. We no longer need a sign.

 

[Waggles]

Tongues mean nothing now. We no longer need a sign.

How wrong can a person be? Obviously very very wrong.
Praying in tongues is the evidence of baptism of the Holy Spirit.
It was in the NT elect and it is the same today.
Thankfully we are not all children of Rome.

 

[Curtis]

Isa 30:8 Now go and write down these words. Write them in a book. They will stand until the end of time as a witness
Isa 30:9 that these people are stubborn rebels who refuse to pay attention to the LORD’s instructions.
Isa 30:10 They tell the seers, “Stop seeing visions!” They tell the prophets, “Don’t tell us what is right. Tell us nice things. Tell us lies.
Isa 30:11 Forget all this gloom. Get off your narrow path. Stop telling us about your ‘Holy One of Israel.’”
Isa 30:12 This is the reply of the Holy One of Israel: “Because you despise what I tell you and trust instead in oppression and lies, (NLT)

As it was then so is it today. There is nothing new under the sun.

 

[lentz]

How wrong can a person be? Obviously very very wrong.
Praying in tongues is the evidence of baptism of the Holy Spirit.
It was in the NT elect and it is the same today.
Thankfully we are not all children of Rome.

It was evidence 2000 years ago. Now its just gibberish

 

[Curtis]

1Co 14:37 If you claim to be a prophet or think you are spiritual, you should recognize that what I am saying is a command from the Lord himself.
1Co 14:38 But if you do not recognize this, you yourself will not be recognized.
1Co 14:39 So, my dear brothers and sisters, be eager to prophesy, and don’t forbid speaking in tongues.
1Co 14:40 But be sure that everything is done properly and in order. (NLT)

 

[lentz]

1Co 14:37 If you claim to be a prophet or think you are spiritual, you should recognize that what I am saying is a command from the Lord himself.
1Co 14:38 But if you do not recognize this, you yourself will not be recognized.
1Co 14:39 So, my dear brothers and sisters, be eager to prophesy, and don’t forbid speaking in tongues.
1Co 14:40 But be sure that everything is done properly and in order. (NLT)

No one is forbidding it. Talk in any language you want. But the Spirit gave them utterance to speak in an intelligible language. Peter didnt just chant non sense. Everyone heard in their own language. They didnt get converts by chicken clucking

 

[Curtis]

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No one is forbidding it. Talk in any language you want. But the Spirit gave them utterance to speak in an intelligible language. Peter didnt just chant non sense. Everyone heard in their own language. They didnt get converts by chicken clucking

On the day of Pentecost they all spoke in a language they did not know. It was those who heard them that the interpretation was came.

 

[lentz]

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On the day of Pentecost they all spoke in a language they did not know. It was those who heard them that the interpretation was came.

Exactly. So what the hearers of the gibberish today having it interpreted as? Why when these tongue talkers,so called,evangelize in foreign countries,they need someoneb to interpret sermon into that countries language?

 

[Curtis]

Exactly. So what the hearers of the gibberish today having it interpreted as? Why when these tongue talkers,so called,evangelize in foreign countries,they need someoneb to interpret sermon into that countries language?

There is a "ministry" of speaking in "tongues" and there is a "personal" use of speaking in tongues.

1Co 14:2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.

Personal "tongues" is for speaking directly to God.

Ministry "tongues" for speaking to men with an interpretation given by another person.

1Co 14:27 If anyone speaks in a tongue, let there be two or at the most three, each in turn, and let one interpret.
1Co 14:28 But if there is no interpreter, let him keep silent in church, and let him speak to himself and to God.