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Should Nations Help Immigrants and the Poor?

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Apparently to justify their undying support of the Republican so-called 'free' market agenda, Evangelical and other conservative Christian leaders have invented an axiom seemingly taught religiously to their congregations, that only individuals and, not nations collectively, should help the sick and poor.

Fortunately for the sick and poor and, unfortunately for those who promote such nonsense, various prophets in the Bible and God himself seem to have the opposite opinion. Rather than debate with folks who apparently believe Jesus was a capitalist, let's see what the Bible actually says about this:

In Leviticus 23, God commands the nation of Israel: "When you reap the harvest of your land, you shall not wholly reap the corners of your field when you reap, nor shall you gather any gleaning from your harvest. You shall leave them for the poor and for the stranger. . ."

From Wikipedia: "On one of the two occasions that this is stated in Leviticus, it adds that in vineyards, some grapes should be left ungathered, a statement also found in Deuteronomy. These verses additionally command that olive trees should not be beaten on multiple occasions, and whatever remains from the first set of beatings should be left. . . Deuteronomy commands that it should be left for widows, strangers, and paternal orphans."

Imagine if in the modern United States, 10% or even 5% of all taxation was devoted annually to house and feed the poor. Soon enough, there would be no poor people left to house and feed. Or, imagine if 10% of all monies collected by religious organizations was earmarked annually for helping the poor. Likely the same result would soon occur.

Both Malachi 3:6 and Zecharia 7:10 warn us not to oppress immigrants and the poor but rather, help them. In Exodus 22, unlike the Trump and Biden administration, God says: "you shall neither mistreat a stranger nor oppress him. . ." And, God is strongly against charging any interest to the poor, rather than the 30% plus often charged by modern capitalist banks.

Jesus in the New Testament, teaches us to take the stranger in, rather than build a wall to keep poor refugees out and far worse, deliberately separate immigrant children from their weeping parent's arms. And in the so-called "dark" ages, it was considered barbaric to charge more than 5-6% interest.

According to the prophet Ezekiel (16:49), a primary reason God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because they were a proud and haughty people who refused to help the poor and needy. Virtually all of the prophets were angry with political leaders and the nations of Israel and Judah for not helping the needy, poor and oppressed and, for often making their lot worse, like the Republican agenda does in modern-day America.

In Nehemiah chapter 5, Isaiah 3 & 10, Jeremiah 7 & 22, Amos 6 & 8, Michah 2 & 3, Zephaniah 3 and Habakkuk 2, the prophets are angry with political leaders and the nations of Judah and/or Israel for not helping and worse, often harming the poor. Moses likewise admonishes the children of Israel as a collective nation, to open their hand to the poor and needy.

In the New Testament, early followers of Jesus shared all things in common, distributing to each according to need. According to the Encyclopedia Britannica, the foundation of socialism is "to each according to need". Conservative Christian leaders call socialism "evil", even though the real followers of Jesus seem to have believed giving our excess to the poor is Godly, moral and correct.

Early "assemblies" of Jesus, that is groups of people, not buildings or religious organizations, often took up collections for the sick and poor. They seem to have forgotten to take up collections to build temples made with hands or for anything else that modern so-called 'churches' typically do.

It's rather difficult to imagine Jesus deliberately attempting to take healthcare away from the sick and poor, like Republicans have repeatedly tried to do. And, rather than attempt to list the myriad of places where Jesus teaches in both word and deed to help immigrants, the sick, the poor and the otherwise oppressed, it is perhaps wise to check out the four biographies of Jesus in the New Testament for our self.

Those who have been taught by religious leaders that only individuals and not nations should help immigrants, the poor and needy, have been lied to by wicked leaders who will answer to God Almighty, for being against God's law and prophets.

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Not outside of their own country.
Every country has its own problems. America is NOT the world police NOR can we help everyone. To send one CENT outside of America is ignoring all needy, sick, homeless, etc. Americans.
If it's that country's time to "go" so be it.
 
Not outside of their own country.
Every country has its own problems. America is NOT the world police NOR can we help everyone. To send one CENT outside of America is ignoring all needy, sick, homeless, etc. Americans.
If it's that country's time to "go" so be it.
Jesus gave us the Samaritan story for a reason. Samaritans were considered to be foreigners illegally squatting on Jewish land by the Jews, who hated the Samaritans, just like Trump and MAGA hate Black and Brown immigrants. You are badly mistaken. U.S. AID was about 1% of the total budget prior to Trump. Trump's gutting of foreign aid has already cost close to a million lives and is projected to cost 8 to 10 million more. Thousands of children are starving to death. Do you really think this is what God wants???
 
I believe the question should be should a nation deny their own help to help those that are not part of their nation

But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

I find it very disturbing on how many "men" run on emotions rather then walking in the Lord..i believe most of them come from single parents homes n they have been raised by their mommas..or mainly influenced by woman

It pretty easy to spot the infidels..

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I believe the question should be should a nation deny their own help to help those that are not part of their nation

But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

I find it very disturbing on how many "men" run on emotions rather then walking in the Lord..

It pretty easy to spot the infidels..

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Trump has set his face against immigrants, the poor, the sick and the otherwise oppressed, which is the same as setting his face against God Almighty. Those who vote for or otherwise endorse his policies are Pharisees and hypocrites.
 
Trump has set his face against immigrants, the poor, the sick and the otherwise oppressed, which is the same as setting his face against God Almighty. Those who vote for or otherwise endorse his policies are Pharisees and hypocrites.
Like i said very easy to point out the infidels.

N it is very disturbing how many "men" running on emotions over walking in the Lord
 
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For the time will come when men will not tolerate sound doctrine, but with itching ears they will gather around themselves teachers to suit their own desires. So they will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.

He writes this way in all his letters, speaking in them about such matters. Some parts of his letters are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction.

And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. It is not surprising, then, if his servants masquerade as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their actions.

Now the Spirit expressly states that in later times some will abandon the faith to follow deceitful spirits and the teachings of demons,

Now I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who create divisions and obstacles that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Turn away from them. For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive. Everyone has heard about your obedience, so I rejoice over you. But I want you to be wise about what is good and innocent about what is evil. The God of peace will soon crush Satan under your feet. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you.

I testify to everyone who hears the words of prophecy in this book: If anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. And if anyone takes away from the words of this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and the holy city, which are described in this book.
 
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