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Yes, exactly like you, a hyper Calvinists do.
''I am a sinner, but fortunately for me I am preselected for grace and eternal bliss''.
Perhaps the most broken reading of scripture!!
Sinners Reject God's Word and Create their own Theology
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Yes, exactly like you, a hyper Calvinists do.
''I am a sinner, but fortunately for me I am preselected for grace and eternal bliss''.
Perhaps the most broken reading of scripture!!
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I don't play games with narcissistic jokers.ROFL! That was a spoof just for you - looks like you are actually reading a sentence or two of the documented facts re: your beloved self-proclaimed heretics Westcott and Hort, as I copiously posted in this thread. But will you heed the truth and "adjust" your spew?
You're evidently too lazy to look up the ref yourself and prefer to play with links. Accordingly, you may now claim your "heretical" reward on page 233 by clicking here (or there --> "How certainly I should have been proclaimed heretic!")
Thanks for the bump(s).--
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To THE REV. J. F. WlCKENDEN
HARROW, 15th September [1855 ?].
. . . Will you not excuse me if I decline to attempt to settle any chronological point in the Gospels ? The data are far too uncertain to give more than a probable conclusion ; and in many cases the order of time is wholly hopelessly uncertain. How much I should like to have been in some closet to listen to your discussion of αἰών. What unorthodox groans would have issued from the recess quarter ? How certainly I should have been proclaimed heretic !
I see you have great troubles understanding context. That the established church would have considered Westcott a heretic because he held to a different (and likely more correct) view of the Greek word αἰών should be in no doubt. And you? You hold to all the definitions of Greek words as taught by the Church of England in the 1800's? I trow not.
I decline to waste more time on your joker maggots.
Ex Cathedra,
Rhema
(Took you long enough to correct your sophomoric errors.)
Hi Thanks for wondering.
I would offer. sola scriptura (prophecy) began in the garden. The "let there be".
Satan usurped it (sola scriptura) by adding to it. Neither shall you touch. . a wile of the evil one.
Lust of the flesh. . lusting after the lust of the eye flesh (can't wait to see) .
The tree hid in the center in that parable .Looking with lust spiritual adultery' they violated the first commandment "have no gods before him" spirit adultery. , Like the principle below
Matthew 5:28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
touching it they died . . eating the fruit of the lie
Satan's foundation the two building blocks of false pride lust of flesh working with lust of the eye
1 John 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
Sola scriptura protecting the integrity of the one author Christ . Given in two places. Deuteronomy 4 in respect to one word. Change the meaning of one word it can change all the a commandment as another authority you could say spiritual plagiarism . And a loving warning one at the end of the book of law (sola scriptura) Revelation 22 protecting the authority of the perfect or whole Two working as one witness .
An example with Moses after finishing writing sola scriptura ( Book of law) He was to place it on the outside of the golden ark ,(a parable that hides). It the bible revealed the mystery of faith inside.
Christ knew as soon as Moses died its right back to "who is the greatest"? let men venerate his dying flesh bowing down in worship
Deuteronomy 4:2Ye shall not add unto the word (singular) which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it,(singular) that ye may keep the commandments (plural) of the Lord your God which I command you.
Sola scriptura makes the apostles succession of dying mankind to no effect.
Deuteronomy 31:24-28 And it came to pass, when Moses had made an end of writing the words of this law in a book, until they were finished, That Moses commanded the Levites, which bare the ark of the covenant of the Lord, saying,Take this book of the law,(sola scriptura) and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee.
For I know thy rebellion, and thy stiff neck: behold, while I am yet alive with you this day, ye have been rebellious against the Lord; and how much more after my death?;Gather unto me all the elders of your tribes, and your officers, that I may speak these words in their ears, and call heaven and earth to record against them.
The armor of God's faithfulness (sola scriptura) Defend it , it defends you .Put it on and keep on as long as you can
Ephesians 6:16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
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That's not what the word "scriptura" (scripture) means.
But I doubt the facts will dissuade you from the fables you post.
Then you don't HAVE any sola scriptura that can be trusted.
Although ... even Jeremiah proclaimed that scriptura (the TORAH) was made into a lie.
How can you say, "We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us," when, in fact, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie?
(Jeremiah 8:8 NRSV)Now if you want to change "scriptura" into LOGOS and somehow arrive at a conclusion that Jesus is the living scriptura, well you, like all the rest, just descend into fantasy religions. So... have at it. I tried.
Rhema
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Another sore loser.
An honorable man would take heed of the clear and copious documentation and cease parroting the exposed spiritualists and self-admitted heretics Westcott and Hort.
As I stated, that was purely for your benefit.
To further clarify that context for both of us re: those two heretics, Westcott and Hort:
In speaking of heretic Dr. Hampden, he says, “If he be condemned, what will become of me?”
Westcott, Vol I, p. 52.
And poor Hort, a textual "critic" admitting his cowardice in the face of his dangerous heresy (there might be a lesson in there for our TypoTwister, as well):
“[T]his may be cowardice -- I have a sort of craving that our text should be cast upon the world before we deal with matters likely to brand us with suspicion. I mean, a text issued by men who are already known for what will undoubtedly be treated as dangerous heresy, will have great difficulties in finding its way to regions which it might otherwise hope to reach, and whence it would not be easily banished by subsequent alarms.”
(Hort’s letter to Westcott regarding their writing other things.)
(Hort, Vol. I, p. 445.)
Looks like those "TED Talks" aren't workin' too well for ya.
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What do you think it means?
Fables? Did you mean parables?. Which many do believe . Without them Christ the teacher spoke not
Sola scriptura (the bible alone) can be trusted. It is Satan who hates sola scriptura saying that it cannot be trusted bow down to him .
Three time the Father gave words to Jesus the Son of man the apostle sent from the father. .Three times with three denoting the end of the matter sola scriptura (as it is written. . . again and again.
Mathew 4: 10-11Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.;Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him.
Jerimiah 8 the false pen of false prohecy oral traditons of dying mankind making the living word of God (sola scriptura) without efect.
Sola scriptura was made to no effect just as when Moses came down from mount Sinai . The faithless Jew had reverted back to oral traditons of dying mankind
God on the mountain that is used to represent all the kingdoms of the world . with his hand hewn out two tablets to represent the old and new testament and with his finger he wrote on both sides (no room for oral traditons)
He had Moses destroy the first set and this time Moses hewn out the two tablet then again God wrote the same both sides establishing the sola scriptura (law )
Exodus 32:15-16 And Moses turned, and went down from the mount, and the two tables of the testimony were in his hand: the tables were written on both their sides; on the one side and on the other were they (living words) written. And the tables were the work of God, and the writing was the writing of book of law (Bible )upon the tables.
God protecting the integrity of the whole . No room for I heard it through the dying fathers grape vine . . .oral tradition of dying mankind .
Hi Rhema thanks for the reply
Heresy an opinion or called a private interpretation or personal commentary.
Heresy one of those words that seem to be mistranslated . and used as a defense tool like during the reformation . Using heresies to make all things written in the law and prophets (sola scriptura) to no effect
Acts 24 13-14;Neither can they prove the things whereof they now accuse me. But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, (Not the legions of fathers as gods patron saints) believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:
(Sola scriptura)
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When used in polite company, scripture means holy writings - whatever the collection of those written documents might be. There is (of course) Christian scripture; there is also Jewish scripture; and there is even Buddhist and Hindu scripture. Obviously the Q'ran is Muslim scripture.
Whether one likes it or not, words mean what the majority of people use the word to mean, and these meanings are collected and explained in a book called a dictionary.
At times, words may be "coined" - even Paul used a couple of made up words in his epistles to express a point that couldn't adequately be expressed in "polite" Koine Greek. He called himself the "least-er" of the Apostles, and when claiming that he actually died and was resurrected on many occasions ("deaths oft") he used the term "out-resurrection" when writing about the final resurrection of the dead.
But any author when using a word that is meant to have an alternate or obscure or "special" meaning should take care to explain just how those words are being used, and why they need to be used in an "unconventional" way to begin with.
I have asked you before, Mr. Lee, in other forums, and on numerous occasions, if English was your first language, but you have chosen to snub me with regards to providing any answer. It wasn't meant to belittle, but it would give me a better insight into some of the word salads you post.
I seem to recall having actually said that.
But this I confess unto thee, that after The Way (which they call a SECT), so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets:
(Acts 24:14 KJV~)No Garee, I mean you make up stuff - fables - fantasies - fictions - that have no foundation in the meanings of the words as would be understood 2,000 years ago in the language now known as Koine Greek.
You seem to be under the delusion that everything Christ spoke was a parable. That's just NOT TRUE. The Sermon on the Mount was most assuredly NOT a parable. It was a direct teaching.
No. It can't. Even the prophet Jeremiah said this.
How can you say, "We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us," when, in fact, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie?
(Jeremiah 8:8 NRSV)Can I give an example? I don't need to. Jeremiah himself gave an example:
For in the day that I brought your ancestors out of the land of Egypt, I did not speak to them or command them concerning burnt offerings and sacrifices.
(Jeremiah 7:22 NRSV)By the time of Christ, scripture was so twisted that God had to send his Son to fix it - preaching the Word of God - the LOGOS.
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets; I have come not to abolish but to PLEROO (to Fix as in filling up a hole, whether in the street or in a mud wall).
(Matthew 5:17 NRSV)@Christ4Ever
Yeah, well the rest of your post is a perfect example of a Garee Word Salad. And Bill never gave me the blueprints for his decoder ring.
ALL understanding of the meanings of scripture (the stuff written down) is a personal interpretation of somebody, even if a score of other people agree, UNLESS the actual VOICE of God speaks to you and says otherwise.
Do you hear a Voice? (An honest question.)
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Hi Thanks
I would offer.
A Dictionary is considered a private interpretation, personal opinion of what the author or group is saying. Personal commentary .called the confederacy used twice.
Spiritual book the unseen eternal things .Two levels of understanding. Remember without parables Christ the teaching master spoke not. Hiding the gospel unseen understanding from those not born again .The mysteries of faith (the unseen power of Christ).
The temporal dying things in a parable must be compared and mixed with the unseen eternal word, the unseen witness . . . or no gospel rest It remains a mystery of faith (power)
Every religion has a writen of use symbols or word as a book of the law.. .even the religious athiest has a written defense.
Its the differnce between the Bible all things written in the law and prophets and the religion of men written down as law
Like the CCC sola sacred oral traditions of dying mankind. The Catholic written book of their own laws that they must call Scared Tradition of dying mankind
Sola scriptura. all things written in Christ's book of loving empowering laws . The reforming restoring authority in any generation, any family. any person. When ever two or three gather under the authority of sola scriptura working in them with them giving them gospel rest
Compare, the two written laws of any religion . The bible stands as the final authority over the philosophies (heresies ) of men .
Was there a particular reason wanted me look at this?
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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Garee, you might want to look up the dictionary definition of "private." Definitions are complied from common usage of a LARGE population, not a private one.
As for the rest of the word salad, it needs some croutons.
Blessings,
Rhema
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Doesn't mean "fulfill" ... never did. Thought you'd might find that interesting.
That's all.
Blessings,
Rhema
Thanks .I love croutons on the Ranch .Lettuce take a private look LOLGaree, you might want to look up the dictionary definition of "private." Definitions are complied from common usage of a LARGE population, not a private one.
As for the rest of the word salad, it needs some croutons.
Blessings,
Rhema
Note . . .(purple) my private interpretation everyone has one
2 Peter 1:20-21Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.(personal commentary called a heresy or sect) For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: (oral traditons as private interpretations of dying mankind) but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.
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Go back to my OP and notice I quoted each verse from the KJV based on the Textus Receptus, and also the NRSVue based on the NA28. So arguments over what translation I quoted are beside the point, they do not negate the word of God posted.
I did not give my opinion, I gave God's truth, so deal with it!
Beware of those who ignore and reject the plain words of Scripture, and go off on a tangent to avoid dealing with the truth in the OP!
We defend that with defend us.
Yes, the personal interpretation of Christ his power working in us (sola scriptura) Called . . . All things written in the law and prophets or Moses and Elias to represent the old and new as one word .Sola scriptura
Matthew 17:3-5;And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him (sola scriptura) . Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias. While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.
Sola scriptura Moses as the law giver and its testimony prophets and It was good . Also referred to in a parable Moses and Elias .Law and prophets .
Moses to represent the law. . Elias passed down that power of the prophets the Holy Spirit to John the Baptist the new testament making the two one new perfect law of faith
Peter not walking by faith (Christ) the unseen eternal misunderstood the parable of the father . Protecting his integrity as the one author and perfecter of our new born again faith
Matthew 17:4 Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias.
A constant battle against those who seek the dead for the living ."Necromancy" Darash. in Hebrew. meaning to seek. Used to seek of God or of the dead relatives. . a neutral word needing context
Used in two ways
Isaiah 8:19;And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead? To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
To the law and to the testimony: Moses and Elias . . sola scriptura .The "let there be" and its good testimony the prophets "it was God alone good "
Patron saint. . his and hers gods . . . . . workers with familiar (family) spirits, 3500 and rising
Whether it's a mud wall or street, or God's Laws it's about making something ended/complete from its current state. I've always seen that the OT law could not do in and of itself is save/liberate a sinner.
Thanks for clarifying your purpose in the reference.
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
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Well that's just truly ... weird. Declaring that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation, and then continuing on to give your private interpretation - thereby purposefully contradicting yourself.
With that, adieu.
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It's even worse than you might think.
For in the day that I brought your ancestors out of the land of Egypt, I did not speak to them or command them concerning burnt offerings and sacrifices.
(Jeremiah 7:22 NRSV)Your OT law couldn't do anything once it was corrupted into a lie:
How can you say, "We are wise, and the law (TORAH) of the LORD is with us," when, in fact, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie?
(Jeremiah 8:8 NRSV)But the things that Jesus taught were the original OT law.
Kindly,
Rhema