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The Concepts of 'Paulism' vs. The Teachings Of Christ

Why do we entertain these kind of people that just want to divide , disrupt, and bring discord ?

This is taken from MorningStar's profile "testamony", ".....despite my friends not believing me when I told them I saw Jesus."

Really ? :huh:

 
Why do we entertain these kind of people that just want to divide , disrupt, and bring discord ?

This is taken from MorningStar's profile "testamony", ".....despite my friends not believing me when I told them I saw Jesus."

Really ? :huh:

I think we need to have more discernment and less tolerance sometimes, just my opinion. I hope no one takes that the wrong way.

I haven't been following this thread at all because the Spirit told me right away that something was fishy about MorningStar. And I called him on it in another thread because he made so many anti-Christ statements my head was spinning. There is a difference between sincere questions and obvious deception. So since then I haven't had the desire to play his phony games.
 
Any more thoughts?

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The topic is...............

The Concepts of Paulism vs. The teachings of Christ.

Let's keep it on topic if possible.

Thank you.

Jesus is Lord.
 
I think we need to have more discernment and less tolerance sometimes, just my opinion. I hope no one takes that the wrong way.

Well said. Actually that is not "just your opinion", it also happens to be Gods. Without discernment all human righteousness and understanding has to lean on is head knowledge and fleshly emotions, and those two things combined will sink a 'godly' man faster than the titanic went down. Human pride fastens itself to this rock called "tolerance"...for above all, even above God, we must 'appear' loving...


Eph 4:17 This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that from now on, you must not walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind, Having the understanding darkened, being separated from the life of God (Holy Spirit) through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart: Who being past feeling ...

Keep reading, see where "feelings" apart from the Spirit will take you...


Consider this my little submission to Paulism vs Christ; which by the way is nonsensical to the last degree. We have`nt even learned CHRIST yet ourselves, and we want to cast a disparaging eye upon Paul the Apostle (chosen) of Christ. Boys we here in the 21 century have even outsmarted ourselves...
 
It's these types of threads............

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I think we need to have more discernment and less tolerance sometimes, just my opinion. I hope no one takes that the wrong way.
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Well said. Actually that is not "just your opinion", it also happens to be Gods. Without discernment all human righteousness and understanding has to lean on is head knowledge and fleshly emotions, and those two things combined will sink a 'godly' man faster than the titanic went down. Human pride fastens itself to this rock called "tolerance"...for above all, even above God, we must 'appear' loving...
Tolerance?

This whole thread breaks the rules of the forum. It's clearly stated:

It is not for speaking against Scripture simply because you are in disbelief. If you disagree with the Word of GOD, please leave unless you came to learn the Truth as told by GOD in Scripture.

Paulism is not a Christian Doctrine, it's just called that so some can pick and choose out of the Word of God things they want to believe and suit their goals.

It's Pride and arrogance to even think God had no ability to preserve his Word as given by the Holy Spirit to men. It's devilish Pride to think one knows more than God, and to even consider God was wrong in a few places.

2Pe 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
2Pe 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

Peter himself by the Holy Spirit acknowledged that Paul's Letters were written "In the Wisdom given to him" and by discounting them leads to ones destruction. Everything Paul wrote was the Word of God, and what God Gave Peter to write about Paul's epistles is more than good enough for me.

Jesus Is Lord.
 
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Paul wasn't an historian. His focus was to preach the gospel, that is Christ and Him crucified.


It is very disturbing that there is this conflict in God's church. That so many, perhaps even the majority, believe that we can enter heaven without obedience is perplexing to me. Paul was never in disagreement with Jesus regards the necessity to be obedient. He simply couched it in different terms.

Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law....12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good. Romans 3:31; 7:12.

Paul also said, "Shall we sin that grace may abound? God forbid! How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?.... What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness. I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness. For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness. What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death. But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life. For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."
(Romans 6:1,2,15-23.)

Clearly, obedience to God's commandments was as important to Paul as any of the other contributors to the New Testament canon.
Well played.
 
Tolerance?

This whole thread breaks the rules of the forum. It's clearly stated:

It is not for speaking against Scripture simply because you are in disbelief. If you disagree with the Word of GOD, please leave unless you came to learn the Truth as told by GOD in Scripture.

Paulism is not a Christian Doctrine, it's just called that so some can pick and choose out of the Word of God things they want to believe and suit their goals.

It's Pride and arrogance to even think God had no ability to preserve his Word as given by the Holy Spirit to men. It's devilish Pride to think one knows more than God, and to even consider God was wrong in a few places.

2Pe 3:15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
2Pe 3:16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.

Peter himself by the Holy Spirit acknowledged that Paul's Letters were written "In the Wisdom given to him" and by discounting them leads to ones destruction. Everything Paul wrote was the Word of God, and what God Gave Peter to write about Paul's epistles is more than good enough for me.

Jesus Is Lord.

I agree with everything you said here and I meant we shouldn't tolerate evil talk, period. This should be a lesson to all of us to be on guard against those who would seek to creep in unawares.

 
Well said. Actually that is not "just your opinion", it also happens to be Gods. Without discernment all human righteousness and understanding has to lean on is head knowledge and fleshly emotions, and those two things combined will sink a 'godly' man faster than the titanic went down.

Absolutely. Human wisdom of the flesh vs. Godly wisdom of the Spirit. Never the twain shall meet. One is asking for serious trouble when he starts thinking he has things figured out because it feels right. As you said, it is deadly.

Human pride fastens itself to this rock called "tolerance"...for above all, even above God, we must 'appear' loving...
Perfect description! The world uses that word to ensnare Christians and subvert the faith. Tolerate everything or you're being judgmental.

Eph 4:17 This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that from now on, you must not walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind, Having the understanding darkened, being separated from the life of God (Holy Spirit) through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart: Who being past feeling ...

Keep reading, see where "feelings" apart from the Spirit will take you...
lasciviousness! :shock:

Consider this my little submission to Paulism vs Christ; which by the way is nonsensical to the last degree. We have`nt even learned CHRIST yet ourselves, and we want to cast a disparaging eye upon Paul the Apostle (chosen) of Christ. Boys we here in the 21 century have even outsmarted ourselves...
People disparaging the bible - unfortunately nothing new under the sun. And yes, it's amazing how smart we can be......
Romans 1:22
 
Hello all.

Could those who carry Jesus Christ and the 10 Commandments in one package please explain the following lines.

2 Corinthians 3:6-7 (NKJV)

6 who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

7 But if the ministry of death, written and engraved on stones,
 
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The topic is...............

The Concepts of Paulism vs. The teachings of Christ.

Let's keep it on topic if possible.

Thank you.

Jesus is Lord.

Jesus probably told him we were all going to hell and he had to separate himself. GOOD RIDDENS.

I say delete all topics that have there roots from hell. :suspicious:
 
Delete all topics

With all the different denominational opinions and understanding of the Word of God, deleting all the topics with "Hell" in them would only leave the Christian entertainment section of the forums. Even those would soon be suspect.

Jesus Is Lord.
 
With all the different denominational opinions and understanding of the Word of God, deleting all the topics with "Hell" in them would only leave the Christian entertainment section of the forums. Even those would soon be suspect.

Jesus Is Lord.

Thanks for the laugh.

Gary
 
Jesus probably told him we were all going to hell and he had to separate himself. GOOD RIDDENS.

I say delete all topics that have there roots from hell. :suspicious:

With all the different denominational opinions and understanding of the Word of God, deleting all the topics with "Hell" in them would only leave the Christian entertainment section of the forums. Even those would soon be suspect.

Jesus Is Lord.

Ahhhhh, thats not what I said. Maybe thats what the problem is sometimes , people don't fully read what there commenting on and well intent meanings get lost.

:wink:
 
SOME OF THE BIG PICTURE ...

Paul's ministry was quite different than Jesus's, the main differences being:

Jesus was called to go to the Jews, while Paul was called to go to the Gentiles.

And a very major part of Paul's ministry was to start and train churches.
Paul WROTE to a totally different audience ... he wrote to the saved!
Jesus TALKED to spiritual idiots (the unsaved).


Did Jesus have the Holy Spirit available to help non-believers?
When Jesus left, the Spirit came to take His place,
so then both Paul and the Spirit took part in the evangelizing.

H spirit was there in Jesus period also Moses and up to Adam
H.spirit is Angelo Gabriel. He is under order of GOD. after Jesus god himself do things. H spirit is do with only prophets
 
H spirit was there in Jesus period also Moses and up to Adam
H.spirit is Angelo Gabriel. He is under order of GOD. after Jesus god himself do things. H spirit is do with only prophets

You have made a bold statement here. Do you have scripture to support what you have written?
 
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