The Gospel of Jesus Christ is not meant for everyone, for many cannot receive it, no matter how hard they may try!

[Sue D.]

The sovereignty of God. God alone knows who will accept His gift of salvation and who won't. We are told to share the Gospel unto salvation with all who will listen.

 

[PloughBoy]

"GOD is Sovereign" and we are to obey Him.
(John).
Peter therefore seeing him saith to Jesus, Lord, and what shall this man do? 22Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? Follow thou me. 23This saying therefore went forth among the brethren, that that disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, that he should not die; but, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee?

 

[PloughBoy]

The Coming King

9“Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion!
Shout, O daughter of Jerusalem!
Behold, your King is coming to you;
He is just and having salvation,
Lowly and riding on a donkey,
A colt, the foal of a donkey.
10I will cut off the chariot from Ephraim
And the horse from Jerusalem;
The battle bow shall be cut off.
He shall speak peace to the nations;
His dominion shall be ‘from sea to sea,
And from the River to the ends of the earth.’

"Behold your "King" is Coming"

 

[PloughBoy]

The Great Day of God

1“For behold, the day is coming,
Burning like an oven,
And all the proud, yes, all who do wickedly will be stubble.
And the day which is coming shall burn them up,”
Says the Lord of hosts,
“That will leave them neither root nor branch.
2But to you who fear My name
The Sun of Righteousness shall arise
With healing in His wings;
And you shall go out
And grow fat like stall-fed calves.
3You shall trample the wicked,
For they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet
On the day that I do this,”
Says the Lord of hosts.

 

[PloughBoy]

 

[Sue D.]

Very interesting testimony -- is she by chance Jewish?!

 

[PloughBoy]

Not for sure, but she grew up in the "Reformed Faith". And returned.

 

[Sue D.]

I was wondering because she was using a passage in Ezekial I think for a salvation passage about God's deliverance - which Is true -- but she was applying it in a way that wasn't really meant To be.

She got Deep into areas that could have ruined her. And, yes, God Does do the impossible. But I Do hope that a person won't use her testimony as an excuse To go into the depths of sin and then God will rescue them.

 

[PloughBoy]

remember new babes in Christ. You just begin to learn, just like a earthy baby, a spiritual babe grows as well. Here is is again.

 

[NYQueens977]

So is it my fault that I can't accept it no matter how much I try? And if it's not, is it just to punish me for being unable to accept it?

 

[PloughBoy]

No it is not your fault, that you can't accept it. Because you have not the power to do so. God Himself has to draw you, with a" irresistible drawing" unto His Son, Then His Son will reveal you who His Father is. It is not a punishment for being unable to accept Him. It is because you were born, everyone that is born in this world is condemn. And the only thing that can saved you, is "Mercy" and grace, God is the one handing it out through His SON. Best thing to do is make your plead to Him in His Son's name, Every thing will be revealed why, when all things will be judge and God will bring to light everything. and His judgment will be just.

 

[twcstp111]

PloughBoy,

Sorry, but I do not believe that anything that comes into the world comes into it (life) condemned.

Reagrds

 

[Sue D.]

@twcstp 111 -- all sin came into the world through Adam and Eve as we find in Genesis. Satan enticed them to eat of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of both good and evil. God had to them to leave that tree alone but everything else was okay. they disregarded God's Word and followed satan and thus came sinfulness which we all inherited -- we're all born with the tendency To sin. It isn't until a person is old enough to understand right and wrong that it makes a difference. Because Then we can Also understand God's plan For our personal salvation. The Holy Spirit starts to work in our hearts -- let's us know that we've done something wrong that needs 'fixing'. We only have This lifetime to come to God through Jesus Christ and let Him 'fix us'. It's called accepting Jesus Christ as our personal Lord and Savior. When we do That -- realizing that nothing we can do , on our own, will help us get our own salvation -- thanking Him For our salvation -- that we Will have inner peace. And that inner peace is the Holy Spirit coming to indwell us. And He won't leave us until we are with Jesus Christ for eternity.

everyone is born physically -- grows up and eventually dies and then there is eternity. But the most important decision will be the Spiritual birth. That's what's being talked about in John 3 -- the need to be born Again. Not just physically, but Spiritually as well.

Hope 'this' helps in your understanding.

 

[twcstp111]

Being born again means being born of the incorruptible word of righteousness--those things of truth including understanding, wisdom, knowledge, etc. I do not believe any soul is born condemned.

 

[B-A-C]

Being born again means being born of the incorruptible word of righteousness--those things of truth including understanding, wisdom, knowledge, etc. I do not believe any soul is born condemned.

So then... if I am reading this correctly... Everyone is born saved. (none are born condemned) and everyone stays saved, because "of the incorruptible word of righteousness".
Or is it possible some get "un-saved" along the way?

We think of conservatives as people who want things to stay the same, and liberals as people who want things to change. But that isn't really the classic definition.
Liberals believe man is born "good" and learns to be evil by influences around him.
Conservatives believe man is born "evil" and learns to be good by influences around him (i.e. Jesus).

There are people who teach that in order for infants to be "saved", at least one parents has to be saved.

1Cor 7:14; For the unbelieving husband is sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified through her believing husband; for otherwise your children are unclean, but now they are holy.

There have been several studies done in orphanages, where infants are not taught morals, or anything really. In every case children learn to fight, argue, steal, lie and be selfish without any outside influence.
It seems sin is human nature. If it wasn't we wouldn't need Jesus.

Psa 51:5; Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, And in sin my mother conceived me.

Eph 2: 3; Among them we too all formerly lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, even as the rest.

Rom 3: 23; for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

Rom 3:10; as it is written, “There is none righteous, not even one;

 

[twcstp111]

What child is born with knowledge and wisdom? What child is born knowing words and the meaning thereof?

We know WORDS, so we can speak and consider--is not a child who knows not how to speak or consider greater than you and I?

 

[Sue D.]

TAke a look at Romans - chapter 3 :23 and then at 6::23

A person is born 'corruptable' -- going to die -- incorruptable means being born Again Spiritually. Will pass from physical life through death of this body -- into incorruptable life in Jesus Christ.

 

[twcstp111]

Let us not consider ourselves more blessed than orphans that had not our blessings and fell short.

 

[B-A-C]

-is not a child who knows not how to speak or consider greater than you and I?

I've heard you say similar things before. Do you have any scripture to support this? If not, we are all equal and children aren't any greater than us.

 

[Sue D.]

What child is born with knowledge and wisdom? What child is born knowing words and the meaning thereof?

We know WORDS, so we can speak and consider--is not a child who knows not how to speak or consider greater than you and I?

Every child learns by hearing and mimicking. We Are born with varying abilities To learn. Probably the 1st word a child learns is "No" and after that is 'mama / dada'.

We Learn words and Learn to speak through hearing. Hearing those who already Do those things.