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the insertion of the microchip

would let them put a microchip in you.

  • no

    Votes: 55 91.7%
  • yes

    Votes: 3 5.0%
  • I don't know

    Votes: 2 3.3%

  • Total voters
    60

blessed07

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:pray::pray::pray:what do you guys think about the idea there coming up with about inserting microchips in people so when they go to the hospital ,all they will have to do is scan there arm and it will have all there medical history.

this tells me we truly need to be about our father"s business.
 
The Microchip is just around the corner. No need to wait for it. The coming of our sweet Lord and Saviors return is eminent! Lets look forward to His appearing!!!!!!!! :shade:
 
The microchip...as far as I know has nothing to do with the mark of the beast. So...yeah just thought I would say that.
 
Prohibition

Are we reading the same book? God already answered us on this. He may not have granted us a specific "start date," (could be 1000 years from now, could be tomorrow) but He *did* give us a specific chain of events and requirements for the "sign of the beast."

Take note of the order of prophecy as given to us by God through John in Revelations:

1) The beast with 7 heads and 10 horns has to show up *AND* take global control. Revelations 13:2-10

2) The false prophet has to come and perform miracles and get people to see the beast as a deity. Revelations 13:11-17

3) THEN The false prophet will personally oversee the insertion of the seal of the beast into those who worship it.

Revelation. 13: 16-18: "And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six (666)".

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So while I suspect we might even have people/organizations who are trying to speed up the Apocalypse because they don't think God's going to show up for His part, I *don't* think anything available on the market right now is "the" foretold mark of the beast. So far I don't know of any country that has tech requiring its citizens to be branded with chips or anything else for the sake of basic commerce.

Having said that, I am in no hurry to embrace any technology which puts digital currency too far ahead of anything else. I realize money isn't necessarily worth the paper it's printed on these days, but the only way someone gets "all" my money is if they pry it out of my cold dead hands. By contrast, all someone has to do to completely disable all my *virtual* money is shut off the electric grid....
 
Now adays, men have become the tools of their tools. But no way! :disagree:

Only my Lord Jesus owns my soul's privacy.:tongue-animated:
 
Not really sure but===>

Do I really trust God
?????? :embarasse

I'm in His army.

He's The Captain & He has already won the battle.

I have the full armour of God at my disposal, which He made to fit me personally.

I trust that those things that inhibit & frustrate me on earth will be gone in The Twinkling Of An Eye.

My heart has been changed for His.
 
i voted no. and im sticking to my answer unless God tells me to do it. if they put it me me when im knocked out from say a surgery or something i will cut it out.

some people are to smart for thier own good. just because you can do something dosent mean its a good idea. ask yourself this, if God wanted a micro chip thingy in his temple why didnt he put one there when he formed me in the womb?
 
I voted no. unless there was a vital need for it, then no. I come from a electronics background and who knows what could happen if that technology fell in the wrong hands.
 
not allowing ourselves to be 'chipped' could mean death or imprisonment.. this = good because we refuse the chips for Christ's sake.

god bless.
 
Of course it's arrogance to believe it's suddenly then end of the world in our time. An arrogance that has been in a lot of believers for two thousand years.

I will simply live my life according to the teachings of Jesus, and not worry about if and when the end is coming.

If I spend all my time obsessing about marks of the beats, end of the world, loss of my country etc etc etc.... all I'm doing is showing how much I love the world, How much I love the world more than Jesus.

He asks us to leave behind all these things. They bible tells us not to worry, because God will feed us like the birds.

Who can add one minute to his/her life by worrying?

Enjoy the 'Good News' is what I say!
 
I believe that the key to all of this is getting us used to the idea that chipping is a good thing. Today's chips may not be the final mark but by getting people to accept chipping and getting people to want it, is a big step. They're chipping our pets, our credit cards, our cars (which can now be tracked anywhere by sattelite), our passports and who knows what else.

Just look at how far we've come with our cashless society, which is also a forerunner to the end times when no man will be able to buy or sell without the mark. Many of the new credit cards already have embedded chips in them. We have no control over what's put on those chips. Our society is just one simple step away from wanting chips in our bodies to have all of our information with us at all times. Just think.....your identity could never be stolen and you would never worry about losing your credit card. Ugh

Should we sit around and worry about all of this? NO. But, we shouldn't bury our heads in the sand, either. We've been told in the bible to watch and be ready. I believe that by keeping up with all the new technology and understanding what's happening in the world, our eyes will remain open for signs of the final steps leading directly to the coming of the Antichrist.
 
When they do put a microchip it is going to be very slick. (deceiving)

If you do not accept the chip, you might be kill or sent to jail.(outkast)

Most people are not ready to die for something they believe in.
 
I know some are afraid because they don't want to do something that will be against God, but personally I believe that you will know what the "mark" will be when it is time.

One way you will know because taken the 'mark' you will have to deny Christ. You will have to deny Christ and worship someone else.
 
:pray::pray::pray:what do you guys think about the idea there coming up with about inserting microchips in people so when they go to the hospital ,all they will have to do is scan there arm and it will have all there medical history.

this tells me we truly need to be about our father"s business.

Doesn't that sound wonderful? They would know right away if someone were truly ill or just showing up to get "fix" shots in the ER....:sick2:

Personally, I think this medical chip goes along with Obama's health plan...globalization...etc.

Remember when the exorcist came out...it scared some people...it made some angry...but it entertained everyone in some way. Then more and more demonic films came out, even cutsie ones like; All of Me; Ghostbusters just to name a couple. It smoothed over the rough edges of demonic presence and possession, and today, the theaters are full of these kinds of movies, it's all 'good'. The foundation has been laid to find these things as acceptable...the youth has been romanticized into the occult as a way of life and entertainment...it is fun to be scared.

So a little chip the size of a grain of rice with all of your info...supposedly just health info (not)...to make you feel more secure...safer, just more indoctrination for those who could care less about the things of God or 'end time prophecy' so to speak. Just the wining and dining of the 'Mark' whatever it will be...

I am pretty sure if we are true followers of Christ, we are marked already on our heart.
 
rightly dividing the word of truth

What is a Mark?

A Mark (seal, sign, token, frontlet) is placed upon the forehead or hands, either as a sign of a curse or as a sign of redemption.

Genesis 4:15: God places a mark on the covenant-breaking Cain, so nobody would kill him.

Exodus 28:36-38: Priests of God wore a gold plate upon their forehead, symbolizing the redeemed man.

Exodus 13:9,16, Deuteronomy 6:6,8; 11:18: A mark upon the forehead and hand was a symbol of total obedience to God's Law.

Solomon 8:6: A seal upon the heart and arm is symbolic of a love for someone.

Isaiah 49:16: God has graven His people on the palms of His hands as a sign that he would not forget them.

Ezekiel 9:4: A mark upon the forehead was indicative of their allegiance to the Lord in the midst of abomination.

Revelation 13:16-17: The Beast places a mark on the hand or forehead of his followers also. This mark is his name (which represents ones character).

Revelation 14:9-11; 16:2; 19:20: Those who receive the mark of the Beast (worship something other than God) will be tormented. Which means...

Revelation 9:4: Those who do not have the seal of God in their forehead will be tormented. The Beast's mark is contrasted to God's mark!

Revelation 20:4: Those who do not receive the Beasts' mark will be the keepers of God's commandments and have the testimony of Jesus.

Revelation 15:2: To keep the Word of God is to overcome and be victorious over the mark, or name, or character, of the Beast.

Revelation 3:12: The name of God will be written upon those who overcome.

Revelation 7:3; 14:1; 22:4: Where will the name of God be written? It will be sealed in their foreheads!

Revelation 19:13: What exactly is the name of God that'll be written in their foreheads? It is The Word Of God!(See also John 1:1,14). In other words, Scripture, God's Word, will be in their hearts, minds, and souls!


The Mark in the Right Hand

Revelation 13:16 says the Mark will be placed in the "right hand". This is a symbolic term used to denote a position of power. The Lord is said to be at one's "right hand" (Psalm 16:8; 73:23; 121:5, Isaiah 41:13; 45:1; 63:12, Acts 2:25), so the right hand is symbolic for who your Lord is, who you obey. The "right hand" denotes the power of the Lord (Exo.15:6,12, Psalm 16:11; 17:7; 18:35; 20:6; 48:10; 60:5; 63:8; 77:10; 98:1; 118:15-16; 139:10, Isaiah 41:10; 48:13; 62:8, Eze.21:22, Hab.2:16, Acts 5:31), and the power of Jesus Christ (Mat.26:64, Mark 14:62). Jesus is at the "right hand" of the Father (Psalm 110:1,5, Mat.22:44, Mark 12:36; 16:19, Luke 20:42; 22:69, Acts 2:33-34; 7:55-56, Rom.8:34, Eph.1:20, Col.3:1, Heb.1:3,13; 8:1; 10:12; 12:2, 1Pet.3:22).

The "right hand" also denotes work (Psalm 78:54; 80:15), and the power of man (Psalm 45:9; 89:13). The "right hand" could be an adversary of the Lord (Psalm 21:8; 89:42, Lam.2:4, Zech.3:1). A right hand denoted falsehood (Psalm 144:8,11). A wise man's heart is at his right hand (Ecc.10:2), and whatever you embrace with the "right hand" is where your heart is (Sol.2:6; 8:3). Similarly to how Jesus places the things he values on his right hand, and the things he despises on his left (Mat.25:33-34), the right hand is symbolic for the things we value more than other things. Is your right hand the mark of obedience to God Law, or to man's law?


"In" or "On"?

Some might claim that Revelation speaks of the mark being "in" the hand, whereas other books speak of the mark being "on" their hand. In Revelation 13:16; 14:9, the term "in" is Greek word #1909, epi, and there is no difference between the word "in" or "on". This same Greek word is translated as both "in" and "on" in Revelation 4:2,4; 5:1; 6:5; 7:15; 9:17; 10:2; 13:14; 14:1,6,14-16; 17:8; 18:19, and 20:6. Notice especially Revelation 5:1 for proof that the phrase "in the right hand" does not mean literally inside the right hand. And Revelation 10:2 for proof that "in his hand" does not mean literally inside his hand. And Revelation 14:1, in which the word "in" as used in the phrase "in their foreheads" is translated as "on" in the very same verse!


Are "things" sin?

What is sin? Sin is a conscious, willful, intentional act or thought of breaking God's Law. Things, in and of themselves, are not a sin. For example, is accepting a sword a sin? No. It is what you willfully do with the sword that constitutes a sin or not. Is a neighbor's wife sin? No, only the act or thought of adultery with that wife is a sin. If John is in a store, and Mugsy takes a watch from a shelf, and placed that watch in John's pocket without his knowledge, and John walks out of the store with that watch, did John commit a sin by stealing that watch? No, because the watch was forced upon him without his knowing it. Is that watch itself a sin? No. Only acts or thoughts are a sin. Not things. The Bible clearly teaches this. If anyone teaches a verse in the Bible that contradicts this, and teaches that a thing is a sin, and that a Christian can burn in hell for doing something unwillfully, unintentionally, and unconsciously, then that verse in the Bible must be studied, for the Bible does not contradict itself.


Those who say that the Mark of the Beast is literal, and that if anyone takes a mark in their hand or forehead they commit sin, is saying that a thing, the mark itself, is sin. They are saying when this mark is forced upon people, even if they take this mark unconsciously, unwillfully, or unintentionally, then it is still a sin. This contradicts the entire teaching of sin in the Bible. They say, "It does not matter what one does in thought or deed with this mark, because this mark, this thing itself, is sin". They are saying it is no longer what you do with this mark, if you accept this mark, because you are automatically guilty. This is not the teaching of God and his principles.


Now, to make a clarification, if the government does force people to accept a literal mark in their hand or forehead, it will be wrong to accept this mark, but not for the reason that the mark itself is a sin. There is no difference between a literal mark issued by the government, or a license issued by the government. They both force you to enter into a legal "contract" with the government to place man's law above God's Law. In other words, if there is a conflict between a man made law and a Law of God, the government says you must obey man rather than God, whereas God says we must obey God rather than man (Acts 5:29). This is the reason why it is wrong to accept anything from the government. If you accept a license, benefit, privilege, certificate, etc. from the government, you are legally bound to obey all of their rules, regulations, ordinances, statutes, and laws, no matter how anti-Christian their laws may be.
 
im really big into the whole personal space thing, and if I
had someone offer that service to me, I would feel like
a dog getting a GPS chip injected >_<
I'm a human, and I can trust others with my medical
records, so I'm not going to let some foreign object
get put in my body.
 
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