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the insertion of the microchip

would let them put a microchip in you.

  • no

    Votes: 55 91.7%
  • yes

    Votes: 3 5.0%
  • I don't know

    Votes: 2 3.3%

  • Total voters
    60
I think the mark of the beast (RF chips or the like) will be apart of the world monetary system when the Antichrist comes into power and will mandatory for all to have.

At the pace this country is going into debt, it's only a matter of time until our leaders here will be begging the EU (which I think is where the Antichrist will reign) to get on board with their currency system to stabilize our own.

With the way this country has deteriorated and rejected God in the last 50 years, I can't see us lasting another 50.
 
computer chip

The computer chip does relate to the mark of the beast.. all currency will be eliminated.. so all earnings will go directly to a bank account,, so when you buy something,, all they have to to is scan your arm for the chip.. anyone who does not have the 666 added to his or her social security number will not be able to purchse anyting
 
The computer chip does relate to the mark of the beast.. all currency will be eliminated.. so all earnings will go directly to a bank account,, so when you buy something,, all they have to to is scan your arm for the chip.. anyone who does not have the 666 added to his or her social security number will not be able to purchse anyting
Where did you hear that about having 666 added to your SSN? Is that biblical?

I voted no. I've been taught about this chip since I was a child. I will take a gunshot to the head if I have to. I did hear once that we will be forced to watch our children suffer. That is the part that scares me. I pray that they don't do that. I can take anything but watching my baby hurting.
 
The microchip...as far as I know has nothing to do with the mark of the beast. So...yeah just thought I would say that.

Even if it isn't to do with the mark I still would not take it. By taking it one is submitting to slavery and giving allegiance to the world system, a system that hates Christ and does not have our best interests at heart.
We are admonished in scripture to COME OUT OF BABYLON, to separate ourselves from the world, not dig ourselves deeper into it, which I think is what taking the microchip would result in.

If anyone believes that being tracked and controlled 24/7 by Big Brother is a good thing, I will pray for them that they change their mind.
 
I believe that the key to all of this is getting us used to the idea that chipping is a good thing. Today's chips may not be the final mark but by getting people to accept chipping and getting people to want it, is a big step. They're chipping our pets, our credit cards, our cars (which can now be tracked anywhere by sattelite), our passports and who knows what else.

Just look at how far we've come with our cashless society, which is also a forerunner to the end times when no man will be able to buy or sell without the mark. Many of the new credit cards already have embedded chips in them. We have no control over what's put on those chips. Our society is just one simple step away from wanting chips in our bodies to have all of our information with us at all times. Just think.....your identity could never be stolen and you would never worry about losing your credit card. Ugh

Should we sit around and worry about all of this? NO. But, we shouldn't bury our heads in the sand, either. We've been told in the bible to watch and be ready. I believe that by keeping up with all the new technology and understanding what's happening in the world, our eyes will remain open for signs of the final steps leading directly to the coming of the Antichrist.

I agree with your statements. Everything is done in little incremental steps, getting us to accept just one added piece of the puzzle at a time, while attempting to never fully allow us to see the big picture before it is finally brought out into the open.

That's what's been happening since the 1980's with this microchip thing. When Applied Digital and similar promoters of the then new microchip idea first started talking about it, they were adamant that it would NEVER be used in humans, only in pets. All the while in their private correspondences they were openly talking about doing just that one day (chipping people).

Chipping us controls us, and that's the only way the New World Order slave state that is every day tightening it's grip on us can bring their world government anti-Christ dream to fruition. We can acquiesce or we can refuse to accept their tyranny.

Therefore, to me it is a moot point whether or not the current microchip is the mark of the beast. Regardless, I will not take it on religious grounds OR on political ones. I value my freedom and will pledge no allegiance to any world system. I am a slave to Christ Jesus only!

A final thought, these chips have caused cancers in lab tests on animals and also caused terrible burn-like sores on their bodies. Revelations talks about those with the mark having terrible sores all over their bodies. Just saying..........
Also, a chip in your body will have an electrical frequency assigned to it. Our brains are wired like electrical grids. Experiments over many decades have proved that you can control the mind externally by use of electrical impulses. Just saying again............
 
From my study

I think the mark is the hexagram or so called star of David, It has to do with Solomon and the talents of Gold he received, Kings 1 -10, Its kind of Ironic. So the number has to do with Gold and ultimate monetary control.
many clamour for a gold standard, but that won't help because of the golden rule (he who owns the gold makes the rules).
Maybe in the future the one world currency may be backed by Gold, and people will think they achieve a victory and unwittingly fall into some sort of trap. Remember the Golden Rule.
I would suggest a Posioned World Part 98 or the truth behind the star of david, and (The Money Masters) So Gold currency is not the solution.
As far as the chip goes it may have something to do with it but may be a deception to lead people astray.
This truth business is layers and layers of traps. Before i went to bed last night I opened up the Bible randomly and landed on Isaiah 8-12.
I didn't used to understand Isaiah, but I'm rereading it.
Any insights would be greatly appreciated Peace Seekers was good (also the makers of the chips say they work best in the right hand or forehead)
 
I think the mark is the hexagram or so called star of David, It has to do with Solomon and the talents of Gold he received, Kings 1 -10, Its kind of Ironic. So the number has to do with Gold and ultimate monetary control.
many clamour for a gold standard, but that won't help because of the golden rule (he who owns the gold makes the rules).
Maybe in the future the one world currency may be backed by Gold, and people will think they achieve a victory and unwittingly fall into some sort of trap. Remember the Golden Rule.
I would suggest a Posioned World Part 98 or the truth behind the star of david, and (The Money Masters) So Gold currency is not the solution.
As far as the chip goes it may have something to do with it but may be a deception to lead people astray.
This truth business is layers and layers of traps. Before i went to bed last night I opened up the Bible randomly and landed on Isaiah 8-12.
I didn't used to understand Isaiah, but I'm rereading it.
Any insights would be greatly appreciated Peace Seekers was good (also the makers of the chips say they work best in the right hand or forehead)

I have seen The Money Masters and similar, so am pretty well-acquainted with the financial side of the beast system. I've heard lots of patriot types talk about buying gold but as you said, the Golden Rule applies.
They rulers behind the beast system could con us into buying lots of gold from them at their high inflated prices, then crash the gold market overnight , take it all back from us and reap even more astounding profits. Which is how they've always operated, with stock market crashes, depressions, etc.
 
A few years back I had come across what had been called a Veri Chip. The company had left the testing specs on line and I was able to access it. Tried to go back and find the testing info on the chip, but it's no longer there. Bummer should have made a copy of it! From what I can recall the company found that the right hand forehead was the most conducive to receiving the signals. Companies, governments and resorts (Europe) had already been using it for the purposes of money transaction, and security checks. The company had used them as testimonials for their product.

Just did a quick search on this and the company is now called PositiveID. This company is primarily making its focus medicine, but does include Bio Threat Assessment. Always keep in mind that the government will use any threat real or perceived as a way to introduce new methods of controlling an outbreak.

We're not too far from becoming a money less society. Dollar is becoming worthless, and when it crashes, big changes will happen and we won't have much to say about it.

Then the real persecution will start. Work and be able to feed your families? As Christians we will face decisions we need to make, which is stand for the word of God at the cost of everything, or succumb for the sake of our families and our own well being in this world.

Part of me almost can't wait, because I'll get to meet my Lord! Another part is a keen sorrow, for those who don't or refuse to call Him Savior.

Keep praying brothers & sisters.

C4E
 
the mark of the beast

Lots of food for thought in this thread.

The take-down of the USA has been in the elite's plans for a very long time. The big pig in the pen needs to be knocked down so as to be the example for the rest of the world i.e. to be the nation that leads the rest of the world into their one-world construct. America was designed from the onset for the express purpose of being that example. America will continue to exist, but not in the manner in which the majority are accustomed. The rot had long ago begun, and it's now clearly coming into our view.

The people responsible are bloodlined families - they are all kin. They don't marry for love, they marry for genetics i.e. they want to maintain a certain genetic structure, if you will. Thus, they are the original bigots/racists. It's no mystery who they are. They are who The Bible says they are i.e. the merchants, the rich men of the earth who love money (and ultimately the power it can buy) more than they love you or me. We are mere meal tickets to them, a means to an end.

It appears that the next pretext on their patter may well be a one-world currency (electronic). Presently, 90% of all transactions are electronic, only 10% are cash (they hardwired the world's computers together - that's what the y2k pretext was all about). Take cash out of circulaton, and they determine your entire fnancial standing and future. You won't be able to give an old couch to your inlaws without the bankers getting a piece of it.

The Lord moved my family and I out of the USA not long ago, and I can't say I miss the USA. Brother Richard has the following to say about the mark.

The Mark of The Beast, like all scripture, is given so that we may understand God and how to serve Him better. The Mark of The Beast teaches us that the Lord demands uncompromising obedience and unswerving dedication. The Beast represents the archetype of the tyrannical state, which is opposed to God’s Word and God’s Law.

In scripture, the Beast is defined as kings (Daniel 7:17, Revelation 17:10-12), and man-made kingdoms (Daniel 7:18,23, Revelation 16:10) that have power to make war and kill (Revelation 11:7; 17:14). The Beast is the government, with rulers and armies, that are against God and his servants (Revelation 19:19). Jesus said, "He that is not with me is against me" (Matthew 12:30, Luke 11:23). So rulers that enforce laws contrary to God’s Law, are the Beast.

Followers of the Beast receive his mark of ownership; submission to ungodly, anti-Christian law. The mark in Revelation is an allusion to the Old Testament symbol of man’s total obedience to God, and stands as a warning that a society’s God (whether the true God or the state) demands complete commitment in all areas of life. Christians cannot compromise (2 Cor.6:14-18). The state is not absolute, it’s under authority of Christ (Psalm 2, Matthew 28:18); it’s an instrument of God (Romans 13:1-7). It has no license to do whatever it likes. It's ordained purpose is for a rod of correction; to speak the Word of God, to punish evil, and to reward good (Romans 13:4, 1 Peter 2:14, Hebrews 13:7). That is its only authorized purpose.

Who gives power to the Beast? The dragon (Revelation 13:2,4). Who is the dragon? This dragon is the spirit of satan (Revelation 12:9). Those who have the spirit of satan make war with those who "...keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ" (Revelation 12:17). The Lord God has revealed Himself as God, but the spirit of satan is the god and prince of this world (2 Corinthians 4:4 John 12:31).

Revelation 13:16 says the Mark will be placed in the "right hand." Again, this is a symbolic term used to denote a position of power. The Lord is said to be at one's "right hand" (Psalm 16:8; 73:23; 121:5, Isaiah 41:13; 45:1; 63:12, Acts 2:25), so the right hand is symbolic for who your Lord is, who you obey. The "right hand" denotes the power of the Lord (Exo.15:6,12, Psalm 16:11; 17:7; 18:35; 20:6; 48:10; 60:5; 63:8; 77:10; 98:1; 118:15-16; 139:10, Isaiah 41:10; 48:13; 62:8, Eze.21:22, Hab.2:16, Acts 5:31), and the power of Jesus Christ (Mat.26:64, Mark 14:62). Jesus is at the "right hand" of the Father (Psalm 110:1,5, Mat.22:44, Mark 12:36; 16:19, Luke 20:42; 22:69, Acts 2:33-34; 7:55-56, Rom.8:34, Eph.1:20, Col.3:1, Heb.1:3,13; 8:1; 10:12; 12:2, 1Pet.3:22).

The "right hand" also denotes work (Psalm 78:54; 80:15), and the power of man (Psalm 45:9; 89:13). The "right hand" could be an adversary of the Lord (Psalm 21:8; 89:42, Lam.2:4, Zech.3:1). A right hand denoted falsehood (Psalm 144:8,11). A wise man's heart is at his right hand (Ecc.10:2), and whatever you embrace with the "right hand" is where your heart is (Sol.2:6; 8:3). Similarly to how Jesus places the things he values on his right hand, and the things he despises on his left (Mat.25:33-34), the right hand is symbolic for the things we value more than other things. Is your right hand the mark of obedience to God Law, or to man's law?

What is sin? Sin is a conscious, willful, intentional act or thought of breaking God's Law. Things, in and of themselves, are not a sin. For example, is accepting a sword a sin? No. It is what you willfully do with the sword that constitutes a sin or not. Is a neighbor's wife sin? No, only the act or thought of adultery with that wife is a sin. If John is in a store, and Mugsy takes a watch from a shelf, and placed that watch in John's pocket without his knowledge, and John walks out of the store with that watch, did John commit a sin by stealing that watch? No, because the watch was forced upon him without his knowing it. Is that watch itself a sin? No. Only acts or thoughts are a sin. Not things. The Bible clearly teaches this. If anyone teaches a verse in the Bible that contradicts this, and teaches that a thing is a sin, and that a Christian can burn in hell for doing something unwillfully, unintentionally, and unconsciously, then that verse in the Bible must be studied, for the Bible does not contradict itself.

Those who say that the Mark of the Beast is literal, and that if anyone takes a mark in their hand or forehead they commit sin, is saying that a thing, the mark itself, is sin. They are saying when this mark is forced upon people, even if they take this mark unconsciously, unwillfully, or unintentionally, then it is still a sin. This contradicts the entire teaching of sin in the Bible. They say, "It does not matter what one does in thought or deed with this mark, because this mark, this thing itself, is sin". They are saying it is no longer what you do with this mark, if you accept this mark, because you are automatically guilty. This is not the teaching of God and his principles.

Now, to make a clarification, if the government does force people to accept a literal mark in their hand or forehead, it will be wrong to accept this mark, but not for the reason that the mark itself is a sin. There is no difference between a literal mark issued by the government, or a license issued by the government. They both force you to enter into a legal "contract" with the government to place man's law above God's Law. In other words, if there is a conflict between a man made law and a Law of God, the government says you must obey man rather than God, whereas God says we must obey God rather than man (Acts 5:29). This is the reason why it is wrong to accept anything from the government. If you accept a license, benefit, privilege, certificate, etc. from the government, you are legally bound to obey all of their rules, regulations, ordinances, statutes, and laws, no matter how anti-Christian their laws may be.
 
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There is no way that I will except that thing. The Temple of God doesn't need a security system - period!

But we don't have to worry about it, we'll be long gone with the rapture before that happens.

I'm thinking of getting me a bumper sticker saying: "WARNING: In case of Rapture, this car will be unmaned..."

ahhahahahah
 
I believe the chips the size of a grain of rice are an ingenious invention. All your history in one data collection point. Banks will no longer need cards as there will be chip implants that are automatically scanned as you enter the bank or even apartment store. There are those with GPS capabilities too. Governments can and will be able to trace you wherever go on the globe. It is already in use in some places of the world by having implants to find someone if kidnapped. I still voted no though.
 
say it isn't so

But we don't have to worry about it, we'll be long gone with the rapture before that happens.
Such modern dispensational doctrine is a relatively new arrival on the apostacy platter, invented in the 1830's. There is no pre-trib "rapture."
 
During the National Health Care debate it was rumored that mandatory microchipping was included. I don't know if it is true or not but it seems quite possible IMO. It seems quite difficult though to implant a chip in a forehead. There's another possibility though that will easily work for the forehead. They now have invisible tattoos they are using for ID. Check out the Somark Company. Search for:

"New invisible tattoos to track cows and soldiers".
 
I voted no on this one. It seems to me that if they start implanting these chips with all our medical info on them what makes somone think they can't implant some other kind of tracking device in us that will monitor our every move....if you ask me its coming right down to that and no I won't willingly let anyone put any type of micro chip in me at all.

I also agree that the coming of our Lord and Savior is closer than ever has been before. As we look at the things going on around us we can see that. Be vigilant and be ready for our Lord is coming!
 
in the greek and hebrew language there is no seperate letter/number system. a is one b is 2 and c is 3 and so on and so forth. now for scripture to back up what i believe.

rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the NAME of the beast, or the NUMBER OF HIS NAME.

this is black and white saying its the antichrists name. and numerically its 666. the antichrist is going to claim to be God and want all to worship him. the enemy can only counterfiet God. he cannot create or make. lucy is a copy cat and those filled with lucys spirit can only do what the enemy can. which is steal kill and destroy. what i have shared here is the wisdom it speaks of in the 18th verse.
13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that has understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is six hundred three score and six
i still wouldnt let them. and if they forced me i would put it in a stray dog. (happy trails)
 
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HR bill 3200 requires a device to be used in people for health care i believe. It doesn't say rfid chip necessarily. I thought the comments Jeanette made were spot on, I would interpret prophecy that the mark occurs During The 70th week of Daniel.
But I think it may have to do with a couple of things
Kings 1-10 the talents of Gold -
Does it have to do with a one world gold backed currency?
The Star of David could possibly be the mark?
Perhaps the church hasn't been given this revelation yet and will at the appointed time.
 
I've read through, well, most of these responses and a memory of a TV commercial ran through my head. Some of you may remember this particular commercial depicting a shady-looking individual in a leather coat rummaging through a shopping center stuffing items into his coat and jeans pockets. As he approaches the door to leave, a security guard stands up and stops him simply to say, "You forgot your receipt."

This was quite a few years ago if I remember, but it always stuck with me with regards to the chip itself. If we are able to simply transfer funds without actually having to make a typical transaction, that would save us loads of time...but what happens when someone decides to simply "turn us off"? Simply by pressing the delete button on a computer, our entire lives would be erased.

Even today we are nothing more than a number. We are a number on our library card, drivers license, social security card, and even in our workplace. I am number 246 and that's how I clock in every day.

Our society thrives of convenience, and has been pushed into conformity through that convenience. If you receive a rebate in the mail due to some product you purchased, it is typically in the form of a debit card. What would prevent these companies from offering an instant rebate by simply transferring credits from their account to your chip? This would be extremely convenient and millions of people would be attracted to it, but my previous point still stands...they can simply erase you, because you're nothing more than a number to them.

No, I would not accept this chip.
 
They know that Christianity is different from all religion. In Matthew it says obey the Law. (paraphrase) They are passing Laws to put american in prison if they go against the government. (NDAA and EEA)


Nation Defense Authorization Act is marshal law. It is having military police in are own territory. This is what are government wants to do by passing laws so that it is okay but I tell you God will come before all this to happen.
 
No they can keep it.

One step leads to another step. Get everyone documented and on a computer chip and we know their life and where they live and how much their electric bill is.......

Besides, I could not pass the checkpoint at the Airport. The machine would go beep......BEEP. Alien detected, cyborg status.

Kit
 
the mark of the beast has always been seen as a visable thing ,,but technology is changing and i can assure you it may not be so ..they now have tattoo ink that only shows with a ultraviolet light ,,Kid not youreselves we r in the end days and im sure the devil will try to get creative in his devices before its all said and done..the only person i want tracking me is Christ ..His mark has been placed on my heart and another i will not take............Rev
 
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