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The Trinity - True or False

Do you Believe the Trinity


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I, yes, I am God. I am the only Savior there is.

There where many more Gods and Idols in those days that people worship as their Saviour.
God was saying that He is the only true God.

This wasn't a rebuttle of the Triune God.

Well maybe this explaination will help. :) Please remember i'm not a debater, i'm just trying to explain. ok.



Isaiah 43:11
I, even I, am the LORD, and apart from me there is no savior.

Luke 1:47
My spirit rejoices in God my Savior.

1. Some Trinitarians believe that Christ must be God because they are both called “Savior.” There are many references to God the Father being called “Savior.” That makes perfect sense because He is the author of the plan of salvation and is also very active in our salvation. For example, God, the Father, is called “Savior” in Isaiah 43:11, 1 Timothy 1:1; 2:3; 4:10; Titus 1:3; 2:10; 3:4; Jude 25. Jesus Christ is called “Savior” because he is the agent who carried out God’s plan, and without whom it could not have come to pass.

2. The term “savior” is used of many people in the Bible. This is hard to see in the English versions because, when it is used of men, the translators almost always translated it as “deliverer.” This in and of itself shows that modern translators have a Trinitarian bias that was not in the original languages. The only reason to translate the same word as “Savior” when it applies to God or Christ, but as “deliverer” when it applies to men, is to make the term seem unique to God and Jesus when in fact it is not. This is a good example of how the actual meaning of Scripture can be obscured if the translators are not careful when they translate the text. God’s gracious provision of “saviors” is not recognized when the same word is translated “Savior” for God and Christ but “deliverer” for others. Also lost is the testimony in Scripture that God works through people to bring His power to bear. Of course, the fact that there are other “saviors” does not take away from Jesus Christ, who is the only one who could and did save us from our sins and eternal death.

If all the great men and women who were “saviors” were openly portrayed as such in the English versions, the grace and mercy God demonstrates in saving His people by “saviors” He has raised up would be openly displayed. Furthermore, we believe no reader would confuse the true God with the people He was working through. A good example that shows God raising up “saviors” to rescue Israel through history occurs in Nehemiah in a prayer of confession and thanksgiving to God. The Israelites prayed, “But when they [Israel] were oppressed they cried out to you. From heaven you heard them, and in your great compassion you gave them deliverers [saviors], who rescued them from the hand of their enemies” (Neh. 9:27). Some other examples of men designated as “savior” are in 2 Kings 13:5; Isaiah 19:20 Obadiah 21. It is incorrect to say that because Christ and God are both called “Savior,” they are one and the same, just as it would be incorrect to say that the “saviors” God raised up throughout history were the same individual as Jesus Christ.
 
Hi all, i just want to say, that i'm in no way trying to offend anyone, and if anyone is offended i'm sorry, i'm just trying to explain verses that people ask about, i have explained in the past to others where i come from in my way of thinking, if you like you can go back to my other posts and read about it, if Chad feels he must ban me for what i post, ok, i wont be angry, it is his board to do with as he wishes, truely i only wish to explain so that others may understand my views as one who just can't accept doctrines i can't find in the bible, for me, if the bible don't explain it plainly, then i can't accept it, i don't belong to any church or religion, some say that because of that or that i don't believe the trinity that i'm not saved, well they are entitled to their belief , but i answer only to God :)

in humble service unto my God,
Kay
 
Like I have said before you can not get an answer to scripture which is Holy Spirit inspired or God breathed, through worldly knowledge. You have to have spiritual wisdom, which only comes through God's living word, the danger is there is many who would twist and mislead people and lead them astray as,Jim Jones and cults, to get the true understanding you need to pray for the Holy Spirit to guide you in wisdom, and studying the Bible.

The first problem we all run into is is like starting out on the milk of the word and progress to the meat of the word, how fast our understanding of scripture grows is up to the individual. Some things are simply taken on faith as explained in Hebrews 11:1, if you go around the word by using worldly wisdom, we are in trouble, because the world is filled with false teachers and prophets, and of course the devil loves to cause division amongst the believers.

This is a big problem on most all forums I've been invoved with which is why I'll stop here.
 
Like I have said before you can not get an answer to scripture which is Holy Spirit inspired or God breathed, through worldly knowledge. You have to have spiritual wisdom, which only comes through God's living word, the danger is there is many who would twist and mislead people and lead them astray as,Jim Jones and cults, to get the true understanding you need to pray for the Holy Spirit to guide you in wisdom, and studying the Bible.

The first problem we all run into is is like starting out on the milk of the word and progress to the meat of the word, how fast our understanding of scripture grows is up to the individual. Some things are simply taken on faith as explained in Hebrews 11:1, if you go around the word by using worldly wisdom, we are in trouble, because the world is filled with false teachers and prophets, and of course the devil loves to cause division amongst the believers.

This is a big problem on most all forums I've been invoved with which is why I'll stop here.

so you don't think i have the holy spirit from God?
does speaking in tongues show that a person has the holy spirit from God? because i have that anointing, i was baptised in the spirit when i was 19 years old,
but no i think you judge me like you do simply because i can't accept the doctrine of the trinity, and that is your choice,

but as i said before God is who i answer to - HE and HE alone is the true judge and final authority on all things.

 
Well I know all three of them and they are awesome.
The Father is God. What He says is.
The Father calls Jesus the Most High God so He is.
The Holy Spirit is the breath and life force of God and is Himself God.
But of course there is only one God.
 
so you don't think i have the holy spirit from God?
does speaking in tongues show that a person has the holy spirit from God? because i have that anointing, i was baptised in the spirit when i was 19 years old,
but no i think you judge me like you do simply because i can't accept the doctrine of the trinity, and that is your choice,

but as i said before God is who i answer to - HE and HE alone is the true judge and final authority on all things.
I was not responding to any one person I was simply stating as I have many times before that we should interpet scriptures through man but through God, I was not judging anyone, you as myself are accountable to God. So if you though I was judging you I apologize, That is all I can do is ask you for forgiveness.
 
I was not responding to any one person I was simply stating as I have many times before that we should interpet scriptures through man but through God, I was not judging anyone, you as myself are accountable to God. So if you though I was judging you I apologize, That is all I can do is ask you for forgiveness.

ok :) no problem, you didn't put my name on it but i guess i thought you meant it to be to me since i was the last one to have posted , my mistake lol

i ain't perfect for sure
 
This thread started with a simple question. 5+ years and 27 pages later it is way off target. Therefore, it is now closed.

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