The Unteachable Christian: When Defending Your Position Matters More Than Truth

NBTT said:
I do not understand the infinite but by faith I believe that Jesus is able to not give those dead friends and family what we judge to be a fair shot yet still be perfectly good and just.
Click to expand...
Of course. Whether we can see it or not, isn't that the case for all of us?

With the Love in Christ Jesus.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
\o/
 
Christ4Ever said:
Of course. Whether we can see it or not, isn't that the case for all of us?
Click to expand...
It's obvious to you and others with saving faith. Not so obvious with head knowledge faith. James 2:19

If Jesus had told the guy to make sure to tell all his family and friends at the funeral that the messiah is here (the kingdom of God is at hand) and to follow Jesus immediately after the funeral that would be good by my finite judgement. Instead He told the guy to immediately move on from his dead family and follow Him to instead spread the good news to others. Jesus knows who has a chance to believe and who doesn't. His infinite judgement is good and just.

KingJ said:
If there is ''ANYTHING' that I see as evil by Him, I will NOT serve Him.
Click to expand...
It's a scary thing to have one's salvation resting our finite mind not making a single mistake on judging the infinite. Proverbs 3:5

Schrödinger's cat (just for fun)
At the quantum level contradictory states can exist in superposition. When observed, the wave function collapses and a single state is found. A thought experiment attempted to expose this as absurd where a cat would be simultaneously dead and alive.

Jesus' foreknowledge of the saved and unsaved yet we having free will are contradictory states to our finite minds. Defenders and opponents of Calvinism logically feel the need to choose one or the other. I choose both simultaneously and get ridiculed by both sides. It's as if Jesus being infinite and outside of time is able to observe without causing the collapse. He can foretell who will/won't believe in Him and be saved without destroying our free will.

Abraham's and our faith test (crucial)
Abraham passed the ultimate faith test almost sacrificing his son and was rewarded. Romans 4:3

If you couldn't care less about Calvinism, free will or quantum superposition that's fine. Saving faith and subsequent obedience demonstrating the presence of that faith have saved you.

If you are the type to understand everything to the deepest possible level, don't forget your limitations and stay humble/meek. Psalms 25:9
 
Christ4Ever said:
Of course. Whether we can see it or not, isn't that the case for all of us?
Click to expand...
NBTT said:
It's obvious to you and others with saving faith. Not so obvious with head knowledge faith. James 2:19

If Jesus had told the guy to make sure to tell all his family and friends at the funeral that the messiah is here (the kingdom of God is at hand) and to follow Jesus immediately after the funeral that would be good by my finite judgement. Instead He told the guy to immediately move on from his dead family and follow Him to instead spread the good news to others. Jesus knows who has a chance to believe and who doesn't. His infinite judgement is good and just.
Click to expand...
So, was that the point you were attempting to make when you said the following?
NBTT said:
I do not understand the infinite but by faith I believe that Jesus is able to not give those dead friends and family what we judge to be a fair shot yet still be perfectly good and just.
Click to expand...
Was the assumption that the man did not do as Jesus asked of him, then or later? In truth we do not know either way what transpired with this individual and his actions. For the verses in Luke or the other gospels that relate this story do not say either way.

I will say that your 2nd statement above I do treat as being valid. :)

With the Love in Christ Jesus.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
\o/
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top