'These are they that testify of Me'

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'Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him,
We have found Him, of Whom
Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write,
Jesus of Nazareth,
the son of Joseph (by law). '
(John 1:45)

'And He said unto them,
"These are the words which I spake unto you,
while I was yet with you,
that all things must be fulfilled,
which were written -
.. in the law of Moses,
.... and in the prophets,
...... and in the psalms,
........ concerning me.
Then opened He their understanding,
that they might understand the scriptures,'
(Luke 24:44-45)

Hello there,

Several of the members read through the Old Testament books recently, and were truly blessed by it, we started with reading the book of Revelation, and then read through the Old Testament Prophets with the intent of receiving light on what we had read in Revelation.

In the light of what is said in the verses quoted above concerning Christ being the subject of 'the Law', 'the Prophets', and 'the Psalms', (this is how the Lord Himself divided the Scriptures) would anyone like to join me in searching the Scriptures to find how the Lord Jesus Christ is typified there, and in the Bible as a whole.

* For example I had occasion to look at the book of Numbers today with this in mind, and found the Lord Jesus Christ typified in the following ways. As:-

- 'Son of Man', 'lifted up' in Numbers 21:9 (see John 3:14-15).
- 'The Rock', in Numbers 20:11 (see 1 Corinthians 10:4).
- 'The Manna', that sustained Israel through the wilderness in Numbers 11:7-9 (see Deuteronomy 8;2-3 and John 6:57-58).
- The future 'Star' that shall rise 'out of Jacob,' in Numbers 24:17 (see Luke 1:78; 2 Peter 1:19; Revelation 2:28; Revelation 22:16).

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

KJV.

 

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'Therefore if any man be in Christ,
he is a new creature:
old things are passed away;
behold, all things are become new.
And all things are of God,
Who hath reconciled us to Himself by Jesus Christ, ... '
(2 Cor. 5:17-18a)

Hello again,

* In Genesis we can see in the work of Creation in chapter one, a picture of the new creation in Christ Jesus :-

'And the earth was without form, and void;
and darkness was upon the face of the deep.
And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.'
(Gen 1:2-3)

'For God, Who commanded
the light to shine out of darkness,
hath shined in our hearts,
to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God
in the face of Jesus Christ.'
(2Cor. 4:6)

* In the Creator we see the Lord Jesus Christ (John 1:3 & Colossians 1:16)

'All things were made by Him;
and without Him
was not any thing made that was made. '
(Joh 1:3)

'For by Him were all things created,
that are in heaven, and that are in earth,
visible and invisible,
whether they be thrones, or dominions,
or principalities, or powers:
all things were created by Him,
and for Him:'
(Col 1:16)

Praise God!

* Please add more. I'm just tired at the moment.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[Garee]

'Philip findeth Nathanael, and saith unto him,
We have found Him, of Whom
Moses in the law, and the prophets, did write,
Jesus of Nazareth,
the son of Joseph (by law). '
(John 1:45)

'And He said unto them,
"These are the words which I spake unto you,
while I was yet with you,
that all things must be fulfilled,
which were written -
.. in the law of Moses,
.... and in the prophets,
...... and in the psalms,
........ concerning me.
Then opened He their understanding,
that they might understand the scriptures,'
(Luke 24:44-45)

Hello there,

Several of the members read through the Old Testament books recently, and were truly blessed by it, we started with reading the book of Revelation, and then read through the Old Testament Prophets with the intent of receiving light on what we had read in Revelation.

In the light of what is said in the verses quoted above concerning Christ being the subject of 'the Law', 'the Prophets', and 'the Psalms', (this is how the Lord Himself divided the Scriptures) would anyone like to join me in searching the Scriptures to find how the Lord Jesus Christ is typified there, and in the Bible as a whole.

* For example I had occasion to look at the book of Numbers today with this in mind, and found the Lord Jesus Christ typified in the following ways. As:-

- 'Son of Man', 'lifted up' in Numbers 21:9 (see John 3:14-15).
- 'The Rock', in Numbers 20:11 (see 1 Corinthians 10:4).
- 'The Manna', that sustained Israel through the wilderness in Numbers 11:7-9 (see Deuteronomy 8;2-3 and John 6:57-58).
- The future 'Star' that shall rise 'out of Jacob,' in Numbers 24:17 (see Luke 1:78; 2 Peter 1:19; Revelation 2:28; Revelation 22:16).

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

KJV.

I would suggest in that way God is subject to his own living abiding word . What applies to us applies to Him. .He magnifies his living word above all his immutable attributes .

Psalm 138:2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.

 

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I would suggest in that way God is subject to his own living abiding word . What applies to us applies to Him. .He magnifies his living word above all his immutable attributes .

Psalm 138:2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.

Hello @Garee,

'For thou hast magnified Thy word (i.e., 'sayings') above all Thy name.' (Psalm 138:2). God magnified His word by fulfilling it beyond expectation. That is what my Bible marginal notes say.

I am reticent about saying anything about God that I cannot confirm by a word of Scripture. We could find ourselves guilty of the same thing as Job's three friends. Not a nice thought is it?

' ... ... the LORD said to Eliphaz the Temanite,
My wrath is kindled against thee,
and against thy two friends:
for ye have not spoken of Me the thing that is right,
as My servant Job hath.'
(Job 42:7)

Thank you for responding as you have though, Garee.
Within the love of Christ our risen and glorified
Saviour, Lord and Head.
Chris

 

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'Therefore if any man be in Christ,
he is a new creature:
old things are passed away;
behold, all things are become new.
And all things are of God,
Who hath reconciled us to Himself by Jesus Christ, ... '
(2 Cor. 5:17-18a)

Hello again,

* In Genesis we can see in the work of Creation in chapter one, a picture of the new creation in Christ Jesus :-

'And the earth was without form, and void;
and darkness was upon the face of the deep.
And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.'
(Gen 1:2-3)

'For God, Who commanded
the light to shine out of darkness,
hath shined in our hearts,
to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God
in the face of Jesus Christ.'
(2Cor. 4:6)

* In the Creator we see the Lord Jesus Christ (John 1:3 & Colossians 1:16)

'All things were made by Him;
and without Him
was not any thing made that was made. '
(Joh 1:3)

'For by Him were all things created,
that are in heaven, and that are in earth,
visible and invisible,
whether they be thrones, or dominions,
or principalities, or powers:
all things were created by Him,
and for Him:'
(Col 1:16)

Praise God!

* Please add more. I'm just tired at the moment.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

'And I will put enmity between thee and the woman,
and between thy seed and her Seed;
It shall bruise thy head,
and thou shalt bruise His heel.'
(Gen 3:15)

Hello again,

In Genesis we also see 'the seed of the woman' promised in Genesis 3:15: In which we see the coming 'Son of Abraham', 'Son of David', 'Son of man', and the 'Son of God'.

* In the first Adam we see the last Adam (1 Corinthians 15:45 & Romans 4:14). In the first man we see 'the second man, the Lord, from heaven' (1 Cor. 15:47)

'After these things the word of the LORD came unto Abram in a vision,
saying, Fear not, Abram: I am thy shield, and thy exceeding great reward.'
(Gen 15:1)

* In Abraham's 'shield' we see the Living Word, coming, speaking, and revealing Himself to him.

'Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day:
and He saw it, and was glad.'
(Joh 8:56)

Praise God!

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

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'Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham,
are they all children:
but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.'
(Romans 9:7)

Hello again,

This is the third entry on Genesis, in this search for Christ in the O.T. Scriptures.

* In Isaac we see Christ the true seed of Abraham (above), as seen in Galatians 3:16:-

'Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made.
He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one,
And to thy seed, which is Christ.'
(Galatians 3:16)

* In the announcement made to the Mother:-

'And He said, I will certainly return unto thee
according to the time of life;
and, lo, Sarah thy wife shall have a son.
And Sarah heard it in the tent door, which was behind him.'
(Genesis 18:10)

'And the angel said unto her,
Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God.
And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb,
and bring forth a son, and shalt call His name JESUS.
He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest:
and the Lord God shall give unto Him the throne of His father David:
And He shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever;
and of His kingdom there shall be no end.'
(Luke 1:30-33)

*The miraculous conception:-

'Is any thing too hard for the LORD?
At the time appointed I will return unto thee,
according to the time of life,
and Sarah shall have a son.'
(Gen 18:14)

'And the angel answered and said unto her,
The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee,
and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee:
therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee
shall be called the Son of God.'
(Luke 1:35)

* The Pre-natal naming:-

'And God said,
Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed;
and thou shalt call his name Isaac:
and I will establish My covenant with him
for an everlasting covenant,
and with his seed after him.'
(Genesis 17:19)

'And she shall bring forth a son,
and thou shalt call His name JESUS:
for He shall save His people from their sins.'
(Matthew 1:21)

'And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb,
and bring forth a son,
and shalt call His name JESUS.'
(Luke 1:31)

'And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child,
his name was called JESUS,
which was so named of the angel before He was conceived in the womb.'
(Luke 2:21)

Praise God!

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

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Genesis cont...

Hello there,

'And he said, Take now thy son,
thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest,
and get thee into the land of Moriah;
and offer him there for a burnt offering
upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.'
(Genesis 22:2)

'At that time when David saw
that the LORD had answered him
in the threshing-floor of Ornan the Jebusite,
then he sacrificed there.
For the tabernacle of the LORD,
which Moses made in the wilderness,
and the altar of the burnt offering,
were at that season in the high place at Gibeon.
But David could not go before it to enquire of God:
for he was afraid because of the sword of the angel of the LORD.
Then David said, This is the house of the LORD God,
and this is the altar of the burnt offering for Israel.;
(1 Chronicles 21:28-22:1)

'Then Solomon began to build the house of the LORD
at Jerusalem in mount Moriah,
where the LORD appeared unto David his father,
in the place that David had prepared
in the threshing-floor of Ornan the Jebusite.'
(2 Chronicles 3:1)

* In the verses above, in the death of the Lord Jesus Christ, we see the foreshadowing of the death, in type, of Isaac, 2,000 years before, on the same mountain, Moriah: and this mount was not selected by chance, or for convenience (for it was three days' journey), but appointed by Divine counsel on the site of the future altar of burnt offering.

* In the wood laid upon Isaac and not carried by the servants or on the ass, we see Christ Who was led to the place of His death, bearing His Cross:-

'And Abraham took the wood of the burnt offering,
and laid it upon Isaac his son;
and he took the fire in his hand, and a knife;
and they went both of them together.'
(Gen 22:6)

'And He bearing His cross went forth
into a place called the place of a skull,
which is called in the Hebrew Golgotha:'
(Joh 19:17)

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

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Hello once again,

In Joseph we have the last of the Genesis types of Christ:-

Joseph is asked by his brethren, 'Shalt thou indeed reign over us?' and in this we see the Lord Jesus, of whom His brethren said, 'We will not have this man to reign over us (Luke 19:14). We then see the sufferings of Joseph followed by his glory, as we shall surely see the glory of the true Joseph following His sufferings in the fulness of time of which glory we shall be witnesses, and some be partakers of.

'Searching what, or what manner of time
the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify,
when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ,
and the glory that should follow.'
(1Peter 1:11)

'But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings;
that, when His glory shall be revealed,
ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.'
(1Peter 4:13)

'The elders which are among you I exhort,
who am also an elder,
and a witness of the sufferings of Christ,
and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed:'
(1Peter 5:1)

Praise God!

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

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This is exhausting!! Back when equipped.

 

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Hello again,

There does not appear to be any interest in this subject, so I will continue alone off-line.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[Garee]

Hello @Garee,

'For thou hast magnified Thy word (i.e., 'sayings') above all Thy name.' (Psalm 138:2). God magnified His word by fulfilling it beyond expectation. That is what my Bible marginal notes say.

I am reticent about saying anything about God that I cannot confirm by a word of Scripture. We could find ourselves guilty of the same thing as Job's three friends. Not a nice thought is it?

' ... ... the LORD said to Eliphaz the Temanite,
My wrath is kindled against thee,
and against thy two friends:
for ye have not spoken of Me the thing that is right,
as My servant Job hath.'
(Job 42:7)

Thank you for responding as you have though, Garee.
Within the love of Christ our risen and glorified
Saviour, Lord and Head.
Chris

I would agree as it is writen (sola scriptura) is the final authority in matters of Christ faith . The peace that comes from his word surpaases our undstanding .Him giving us his .

 

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Thank you, @Garee,

Amen to that!!

Thank you for responding, it is such an encouragement. If you have anything else to contribute to this subject, please enter it, no matter in what part of Scripture it is to be found. I am still in Genesis, as you can see, but that does not prevent you from referring to references elsewhere which typify Christ.

It is 6.10am here in the UK, and waking, I realised that I had not even mentioned the Ark and the pitch that lined it, which pictured the salvation of God, found in Christ Jesus, who carried those who believed God and entered the ark, safely over the floodwaters of God's judgement in Noah's day. Typifying as we know the Lord Jesus Christ: for God has placed those who have believed His word concerning the all-sufficiency of the sacrifice of Christ, 'in' Him (1 Corinthians 1:30-31); and we are being brought safely through to the redemption that will be ours by the resurrection power of God at our Lord's appearing in glory (Romans 8:23; Ephesians 1:7; Ephesians 1:14; Colossians 1:14).

* Now I must find the Scriptures that confirm that::- firstly Genesis 6:1-9:29 relates the events in Noah's day. The pitch (or resin) with which God instructed Noah to coat it, 'within and without', is the Hebrew 'kopher', meaning, 'to cover': and is the only word for 'atonement' in the O.T. (Genesis 6:14). So it is only 'atonement' that can keep the waters of judgment from us: and that is found in Christ alone (Romans 3:24); secured for us by the sacrificial work of Christ.

* The seed of the woman (Genesis 3:15) was also preserved which was promised to Eve, and would continue through Shem, Noah's son, and the miraculous birth of Isaac, through Jacob and on to the coming of Christ, who is the SEED prophesied through Abraham (Genesis 21:12b; Romans 9:7 & Hebrews 11:18);

' But God commendeth His love toward us,
in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
Much more then, being now justified by His blood,
we shall be saved from wrath through Him.
For if, when we were enemies,
we were reconciled to God by the death of His Son,
much more, being reconciled,
we shall be saved by His life.
And not only so,
but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ,
by Whom we have now received the atonement.'
(Rom 5:8-11)

Thank you, again, Garee,
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[2BeholdHisGlory]

Good thread! Where are these kinds of threads anymore right? Nice to have a thread to touch down on the things that cncern Christ in the various ways they do, love it! Great verses showing these things (you sound like me when someone goes off script, I laughed a little a that Complete) Theres nothing like finding these and stringing them together. I have a simple one just running off of what God said to Moses (and Jesus own words) so I'll add this for now.

The LORD to Moses

Deut 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth;
and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.

Jesus said he spoke by commandment (the same as above)

John 12:49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say,
and what I should speak.

Returning back to the LORD's words to Moses

Deut 18:19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.

Jesus likewise said,

John 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

The scriptures also say, the LORD would teach sinners "in the way"

Psalm 25:8 Good and upright is the LORD: therefore will he teach sinners in the way.

Even as Jesus said, I am "the way" (John 14:6) and The LORD would teach sinners in the same

Jesus also confirms his doctrine is not his own

John 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.

As Jesus said he had given unto them the words which thou gavest me (John 17:8)

As the Apostles confirm

Acts 7:37 This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear.

As Jesus said,

John 5:46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.

John 5:47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

The former a testimony the things which were to be spoken after

Heb 3:5 And Moses verily was faithful in all his house, as a servant, for a testimony of those things which were to be spoken after


I will stop back Lord willing and drop a few more off when I can.

Thanks for the great thread centered on Christ, just love it! God richly bless you in Christ Jesus the Lord

 

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Good thread! Where are these kinds of threads anymore right? Nice to have a thread to touch down on the things that cncern Christ in the various ways they do, love it! Great verses showing these things (you sound like me when someone goes off script, I laughed a little a that Complete) Theres nothing like finding these and stringing them together. I have a simple one just running off of what God said to Moses (and Jesus own words) so I'll add this for now.

The LORD to Moses

Deut 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth;
and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.

Jesus said he spoke by commandment (the same as above)

John 12:49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say,
and what I should speak.

Returning back to the LORD's words to Moses

Deut 18:19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.

Jesus likewise said,

John 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

The scriptures also say, the LORD would teach sinners "in the way"

Psalm 25:8 Good and upright is the LORD: therefore will he teach sinners in the way.

Even as Jesus said, I am "the way" (John 14:6) and The LORD would teach sinners in the same

Jesus also confirms his doctrine is not his own

John 7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.

As Jesus said he had given unto them the words which thou gavest me (John 17:8)

As the Apostles confirm

Acts 7:37 This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear.

As Jesus said,

John 5:46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.

John 5:47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

The former a testimony the things which were to be spoken after

Heb 3:5 And Moses verily was faithful in all his house, as a servant, for a testimony of those things which were to be spoken after


I will stop back Lord willing and drop a few more off when I can.

Thanks for the great thread centered on Christ, just love it! God richly bless you in Christ Jesus the Lord

Hello @2BeholdHisGlory,

I thank God that He has used your words to bless me. They were the first words that I 'heard' this morning,

I do love these comparisons between our Lord and Moses. How wonderful God's Word is, so full of such wonderful insights.

To God be the glory, great things He has done.

Thank you so much, may you be equally blessed.
Within the love of Christ our Saviour,
our risen Lord and Head.
Chris

 

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Hello again,

@2BeholdHisGlory has revealed the foreshadowing in Deuteronomy of the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ as the Prophet, 'like unto Moses' (Deuteronomy 18:15-19):-

- The Rock and Refuge of His People (Deuteronomy 32:4 & Deuteronomy 33:27).

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[2BeholdHisGlory]

Hello @2BeholdHisGlory,

I thank God that He has used your words to bless me. They were the first words that I 'heard' this morning,

I do love these comparisons between our Lord and Moses. How wonderful God's Word is, so full of such wonderful insights.

To God be the glory, great things He has done.

Thank you so much, may you be equally blessed.
Within the love of Christ our Saviour,
our risen Lord and Head.
Chris

Yeah me too Complete! I get too excited, "Hey, thats him"! love it! He is so awesome I hear you, Amen

I guess I will post another one, but it appears more like a kind of patern in Adam where you can catch a glimpse of something similar between the first man (Adam) and second man (the Lord from heaven) in a picture as it relates to the woman/Eve in one and Christ and the church as Paul seems to indicate so much between them in Ephes 5:32

A comparison between Adam (first man of the earth) and the second man ( our Lord Jesus Christ from heaven)1Co 15:47

For example

Gen 2:20... but for Adam there was not found an help meet **for him**.

Gen 2:21 And the Lord God caused **a deep sleep** to fall upon Adam, and he slept;

As Adam was formed from the earth and the woman made from his side (as he slept) seems reflective of our being created in Christ
(the beginning) shown on the cross of Christ

John 19:33 But when they came to Jesus, and saw that he was **dead already**

The side of Adam shows rib (or part)

and he took one of his ribs (or part from his side) and closed up the flesh instead thereof;

Opening of Christ's side here

John 19:34 But one of the soldiers with a spear **pierced his side**, and forthwith came there out **blood and water**.

22: And the rib (or part) which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman,

Paul said of this picture

Ephes 5:32 This is **a great mystery**: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

Even as it says...

Ephes 5:23 Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

And just as Jesus said...

John 6:44 No man can **come to me**, except the Father which hath sent me **draw him**

Likewise we also see here...

and God **brought her** unto the man (Gen 2:22)

After the same patern between them seeing Adam is a figure of him who was to come (Romans 5:14)

Gen 2:3 Adam said, This is **now** bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.

And likewise

Ephes 5:30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.

Paul says

Ephes 5:32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

Just as the two are one flesh scriptures also say

1 Cr 6:17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.

I always thought that was so cool. Not that great at laying things out could use some work in that department but I will try and post what I can. Its always edifying to see Christ, in various pictures. In my earlier days I recall a pastor telling the congregation that we should toss out the old testament but that is where they preached Christ out of, like Philip and the enuch for example, he was reading the book of Isaiah and he wanted to know who it was that prophet was talking about himself or someone else and Philip preached Jesus Christ out of Isaiah and he become a believer. So that was a dumb suggestion.

God richly bless you in Christ Jesus
Peace to you

 

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Yeah me too Complete! I get too excited, "Hey, thats him"! love it! He is so awesome I hear you, Amen

I guess I will post another one, but it appears more like a kind of patern in Adam where you can catch a glimpse of something similar between the first man (Adam) and second man (the Lord from heaven) in a picture as it relates to the woman/Eve in one and Christ and the church as Paul seems to indicate so much between them in Ephes 5:32

A comparison between Adam (first man of the earth) and the second man ( our Lord Jesus Christ from heaven)1Co 15:47

For example

Gen 2:20... but for Adam there was not found an help meet **for him**.

Gen 2:21 And the Lord God caused **a deep sleep** to fall upon Adam, and he slept;

As Adam was formed from the earth and the woman made from his side (as he slept) seems reflective of our being created in Christ
(the beginning) shown on the cross of Christ

John 19:33 But when they came to Jesus, and saw that he was **dead already**

The side of Adam shows rib (or part)

and he took one of his ribs (or part from his side) and closed up the flesh instead thereof;

Opening of Christ's side here

John 19:34 But one of the soldiers with a spear **pierced his side**, and forthwith came there out **blood and water**.

22: And the rib (or part) which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman,

Paul said of this picture

Ephes 5:32 This is **a great mystery**: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

Even as it says...

Ephes 5:23 Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

And just as Jesus said...

John 6:44 No man can **come to me**, except the Father which hath sent me **draw him**

Likewise we also see here...

and God **brought her** unto the man (Gen 2:22)

After the same patern between them seeing Adam is a figure of him who was to come (Romans 5:14)

Gen 2:3 Adam said, This is **now** bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.

And likewise

Ephes 5:30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.

Paul says

Ephes 5:32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

Just as the two are one flesh scriptures also say

1 Cr 6:17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.

I always thought that was so cool. Not that great at laying things out could use some work in that department but I will try and post what I can. Its always edifying to see Christ, in various pictures. In my earlier days I recall a pastor telling the congregation that we should toss out the old testament but that is where they preached Christ out of, like Philip and the enuch for example, he was reading the book of Isaiah and he wanted to know who it was that prophet was talking about himself or someone else and Philip preached Jesus Christ out of Isaiah and he become a believer. So that was a dumb suggestion.

God richly bless you in Christ Jesus
Peace to you

Hello @2BeholdHisGlory,

Thank you for pointing these things out. I had not thought in those terms in regard to the creation of Eve, in relation to the Church. Hmmm.... lots to think about. Wonderful!!

Within the love of Christ our Saviour,
our Lord and Head.
Chris

 

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Hi there,

In both Joseph and Moses we see mirrored, the 'rejection', 'suffering,' and 'glory' of Christ.

* Joseph's suffering began with the rejection of his own brothers, when they said to him, in Genesis 37:8:-

'And his brethren said to him, ​

Shalt thou indeed reign over us? ​

or shalt thou indeed have dominion over us? ​

And they hated him yet the more for his dreams, ​

and for his words.'​

(Gen 37:8)​

* Moses sufferings also began with rejection by those of his own countrymen, in Exodus 2:14a in the words of the two Hebrews :-

"Who made thee a prince and a judge over us?"​

*The Lord, Who knows the thoughts of men's hearts, put the unspoken thoughts of his countrymen into words, in the parable of the Nobleman, in Luke 19:14:-

'But his citizens hated him, ​

and sent a message after him, saying,​

"We will not have this man to reign over us".​

* Yet, in all three cases, the one to whom these words were spoken, either openly or in heart, go on to become both ruler and judge.
* See the words of Stephen in Acts 7:35:-

'This Moses whom they refused, saying, ​

"Who made thee a ruler and a judge?" ​

the same did God send to be a ruler and a deliverer ​

by the hand of the angel which appeared to him in the bush.'​

* Even so will God yet send Christ Jesus the risen Lord, back to those self-same people as Judge:-

'And He shall send Jesus Christ,
.. which before was preached unto you:
.... Whom the heaven must receive
...... until the times of restitution of all things,
........ which God hath spoken
.......... by the mouth of all His holy prophets
............ since the world began.
For Moses truly said unto the fathers,
.. A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up
.... unto you of your brethren,
...... like unto me;
........ Him shall ye hear
.......... in all things whatsoever He shall say unto you.
And it shall come to pass,
.. that every soul, which will not hear that prophet,
.... shall be destroyed from among the people.
Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after,
.. as many as have spoken,
.... have likewise foretold of these days.
...... Ye are the children of the prophets,
........ and of the covenant which God made with our fathers,
.......... saying unto Abraham,
............ And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.
Unto you first
.. God, having raised up His Son Jesus,
.... sent Him to bless you,
...... in turning away every one of you from His iniquities.'
(Act 3:20-26)

* So from the beginning the suffering and the glory of Christ is foreshadowed.

Praise God!

In Christ Jesus
our risen and glorified
Saviour, Lord and Head.
Chris

 

[2BeholdHisGlory]

Hi there,

In both Joseph and Moses we see mirrored, the 'rejection', 'suffering,' and 'glory' of Christ.

* Joseph's suffering began with the rejection of his own brothers, when they said to him, in Genesis 37:8:-

'And his brethren said to him, ​

Shalt thou indeed reign over us? ​

or shalt thou indeed have dominion over us? ​

And they hated him yet the more for his dreams, ​

and for his words.'​

(Gen 37:8)​

* Moses sufferings also began with rejection by those of his own countrymen, in Exodus 2:14a in the words of the two Hebrews :-

"Who made thee a prince and a judge over us?"​

*The Lord, Who knows the thoughts of men's hearts, put the unspoken thoughts of his countrymen into words, in the parable of the Nobleman, in Luke 19:14:-

'But his citizens hated him, ​

and sent a message after him, saying,​

"We will not have this man to reign over us".​

* Yet, in all three cases, the one to whom these words were spoken, either openly or in heart, go on to become both ruler and judge.
* See the words of Stephen in Acts 7:35:-

'This Moses whom they refused, saying, ​

"Who made thee a ruler and a judge?" ​

the same did God send to be a ruler and a deliverer ​

by the hand of the angel which appeared to him in the bush.'​

* Even so will God yet send Christ Jesus the risen Lord, back to those self-same people as Judge:-

'And He shall send Jesus Christ,
.. which before was preached unto you:
.... Whom the heaven must receive
...... until the times of restitution of all things,
........ which God hath spoken
.......... by the mouth of all His holy prophets
............ since the world began.
For Moses truly said unto the fathers,
.. A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up
.... unto you of your brethren,
...... like unto me;
........ Him shall ye hear
.......... in all things whatsoever He shall say unto you.
And it shall come to pass,
.. that every soul, which will not hear that prophet,
.... shall be destroyed from among the people.
Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after,
.. as many as have spoken,
.... have likewise foretold of these days.
...... Ye are the children of the prophets,
........ and of the covenant which God made with our fathers,
.......... saying unto Abraham,
............ And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.
Unto you first
.. God, having raised up His Son Jesus,
.... sent Him to bless you,
...... in turning away every one of you from His iniquities.'
(Act 3:20-26)

* So from the beginning the suffering and the glory of Christ is foreshadowed.

Praise God!

In Christ Jesus
our risen and glorified
Saviour, Lord and Head.
Chris

Great job Complete! These things are such faith builders when studying them out and finding the testimonies of Jesus Christ. Studying these things can be addicting.
Finally a good addiction!

I will add this following one to your very edifying thread The only begotten son of Abraham

Galations 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham,
saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

It says God has spoken by the prophets and shows how He does so

Hosea 12:10 I have also spoken by the prophets,
and I have multiplied visions, and used similitudes, by the ministry of the prophets.

And since Abraham was a prophet Gen 20:7 in him would God use much the same

These speaking of our salvation

1 Peter 1:10 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:

1 Peter 1:11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings
of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

Even as Hebrews says,

The law having shadow of the good things to come not the very image of things (even in Abraham)

Paul speaks of Abrahams things (in respects to his two sons by two women) saying,

Galations 4:24 Which things are an allegory:

For these two women are two covenants

Galations 4:22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons,
the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.

Gal 4:23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh ;
but he of the freewoman was by promise

As God used similitudes by the ministry of the prophets Hebrews also shows

Heb 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets

But now

Heb 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds

And of Jesus Christ it is also written how he too would speak

Psalm 78:2 I will open my mouth in a parable: I will utter dark sayings of old: (Mark 4:13, Mat 13:35-36 & example of one Luke 20:17)

Similitudes (before by the prophets) a parable (after by His Son) uttering the dark sayings of old

And after Christ ascended (of whom they testisfied of) the Holy Ghost shall teach you all things

As Paul confirms,

1 Cr 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth;
comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

The sort of comparing between those two things is shown in son after the flesh (Ishmael) and son of the promise (after the Spirit/Isaac)
the later reckoned as Abraham's only begotten. As Jesus said, they are they which testify of me the Father's only begotten Son, seed of Abraham
(Who was made unto us righteousness)

Showing in part the righteousness of God "without" the law manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

Which show us things even in Isaac which point forward to Christ

Abraham took the wood of the burnt offering,
and laid it upon Isaac his son; (Cross)

Who offered up his only begotten son (The Father's only begotten)

Of whom it was said,
That in Isaac shall thy seed be called:

Abraham accounting that God was able to raise him up ,
even **from the dead** (here we see faith in the operation of God)

And **from whence** also
he received him **in a figure** (the law having shadow)

**Him** God raised up the third day, (Christ Jesus)
and **shewed him openly** (the resurrection from the dead)

Or this way,

Gen 22:7 And Isaac spake unto Abraham his father,
and said, My father: and he said, Here am I, my son.
And he said, Behold the fire and the wood: but **where is the lamb** for a burnt offering?

Keeping in mind, The law having **shadow of** good things to come, and not the very image of the things

Gen 22:8 And Abraham said, My son,
God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering:
so they went both of them together.

The law prophesied until John (the messenger sent before him) where we see that provision

John 1:36 And looking upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, **Behold the Lamb of God!**

God provided himself a lamb
(in a picture of His own Son) upon whom was placed the wood

And Paul writes,

Romans 8:2 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?

God having preached before the gospel unto Abraham

What was shown in a figure beforehand (in the prophets) using a similitude in Abrahams things (Isaac, son of promise)
God did show openly (in Jesus Christ) who he raised from the dead.

Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made.
He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed,
and heirs according to the promise.

Thats not all that can be seen but there it might help show little glimpses of Jesus Christ our Lord in them. I have always battled with laying things out as neatly as I should but I always find that a million things can just be added or too many cloud the picture and theres always this sort of flow I look for but it always escapes me. So I can be rather choppy and all over the place, but I am very much aware of this lol

Anyway God bless you Complete, I will try to tidy these thing up and be shorter where I can. Peace to you in our Lord Jesus Christ

 

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Great job Complete! These things are such faith builders when studying them out and finding the testimonies of Jesus Christ. Studying these things can be addicting.
Finally a good addiction!

I will add this following one to your very edifying thread The only begotten son of Abraham

Galations 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham,
saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

It says God has spoken by the prophets and shows how He does so

Hosea 12:10 I have also spoken by the prophets,
and I have multiplied visions, and used similitudes, by the ministry of the prophets.

And since Abraham was a prophet Gen 20:7 in him would God use much the same

These speaking of our salvation

1 Peter 1:10 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:

1 Peter 1:11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings
of Christ, and the glory that should follow.

Even as Hebrews says,

The law having shadow of the good things to come not the very image of things (even in Abraham)

Paul speaks of Abrahams things (in respects to his two sons by two women) saying,

Galations 4:24 Which things are an allegory:

For these two women are two covenants

Galations 4:22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons,
the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.

Gal 4:23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh ;
but he of the freewoman was by promise

As God used similitudes by the ministry of the prophets Hebrews also shows

Heb 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets

But now

Heb 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds

And of Jesus Christ it is also written how he too would speak

Psalm 78:2 I will open my mouth in a parable: I will utter dark sayings of old: (Mark 4:13, Mat 13:35-36 & example of one Luke 20:17)

Similitudes (before by the prophets) a parable (after by His Son) uttering the dark sayings of old

And after Christ ascended (of whom they testisfied of) the Holy Ghost shall teach you all things

As Paul confirms,

1 Cr 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth;
comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

The sort of comparing between those two things is shown in son after the flesh (Ishmael) and son of the promise (after the Spirit/Isaac)
the later reckoned as Abraham's only begotten. As Jesus said, they are they which testify of me the Father's only begotten Son, seed of Abraham
(Who was made unto us righteousness)

Showing in part the righteousness of God "without" the law manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

Which show us things even in Isaac which point forward to Christ

Abraham took the wood of the burnt offering,
and laid it upon Isaac his son; (Cross)

Who offered up his only begotten son (The Father's only begotten)

Of whom it was said,
That in Isaac shall thy seed be called:

Abraham accounting that God was able to raise him up ,
even **from the dead** (here we see faith in the operation of God)

And **from whence** also
he received him **in a figure** (the law having shadow)

**Him** God raised up the third day, (Christ Jesus)
and **shewed him openly** (the resurrection from the dead)

Or this way,

Gen 22:7 And Isaac spake unto Abraham his father,
and said, My father: and he said, Here am I, my son.
And he said, Behold the fire and the wood: but **where is the lamb** for a burnt offering?

Keeping in mind, The law having **shadow of** good things to come, and not the very image of the things

Gen 22:8 And Abraham said, My son,
God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering:
so they went both of them together.

The law prophesied until John (the messenger sent before him) where we see that provision

John 1:36 And looking upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, **Behold the Lamb of God!**

God provided himself a lamb
(in a picture of His own Son) upon whom was placed the wood

And Paul writes,

Romans 8:2 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?

God having preached before the gospel unto Abraham

What was shown in a figure beforehand (in the prophets) using a similitude in Abrahams things (Isaac, son of promise)
God did show openly (in Jesus Christ) who he raised from the dead.

Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made.
He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed,
and heirs according to the promise.

Thats not all that can be seen but there it might help show little glimpses of Jesus Christ our Lord in them. I have always battled with laying things out as neatly as I should but I always find that a million things can just be added or too many cloud the picture and theres always this sort of flow I look for but it always escapes me. So I can be rather choppy and all over the place, but I am very much aware of this lol

Anyway God bless you Complete, I will try to tidy these thing up and be shorter where I can. Peace to you in our Lord Jesus Christ

Hello @2BeholdHisGlory,

Thank you so much for this. My heart is full. I praise God for every word: for it's fullness and it's depth, and most importantly, it's truth.

Within the love of Christ our Saviour,
our risen and glorified
Saviour, Lord and Head.
Chris