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Those who speak against the Word ???

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Like I said u make no sense to me.. our house belongs to Immanuel u see physical it seems like ya said water is useless is nothing yet she will will testify against many..


Twistie
Still confused?

I Didn't say useless but did say it as a rudiment of this dying creation (blood H20. . will not profit towards salvation .Nothing God does is useless. Being used as a shadow of things to come is useful. the shadow does not mean something has arrived .

It is why he signified it giving the parable for the "time present" . . .Kings in Israel ,(abomination of desolation) the gospel meaning hid from the lost. . . . .revealed to the born again children of light.

Hebrew 9 the 1st century reformation (Hebrew 9) like the 15th century reformation under Catholicism both reformations rejected the idea of holy water as some sort of source of born again Juan Ponce de León youth .

H20 does profit in getting one wet .Just stay out of the Sun..


That portion of scripture (Hebrew 9) does profit by giving the shadows. . understanding.

Hebrew 9:8-24 The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience; Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation. But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building; Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us. For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh: How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance. For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth. Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood. For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people, Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you. Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry. And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission. It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:
 
Still confused?

I Didn't say useless but did say it as a rudiment of this dying creation (blood H20. . will not profit towards salvation .Nothing God does is useless. Being used as a shadow of things to come is useful. the shadow does not mean something has arrived .

It is why he signified it giving the parable for the "time present" . . .Kings in Israel ,(abomination of desolation) the gospel meaning hid from the lost. . . . .revealed to the born again children of light.

Hebrew 9 the 1st century reformation (Hebrew 9) like the 15th century reformation under Catholicism both reformations rejected the idea of holy water as some sort of source of born again Juan Ponce de León youth .

H20 does profit in getting one wet .Just stay out of the Sun..


That portion of scripture (Hebrew 9) does profit by giving the shadows. . understanding.

Hebrew 9:8-24 The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing:Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience; Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation. But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building; Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us. For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh: How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance. For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth. Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood. For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people, Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you. Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry. And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission. It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:
Your worst then a basement that's filled with fleas..


Ya ain't producing no good fruit.. good luck with that


Twistie
 
Your worst then a basement that's filled with fleas..


Ya ain't producing no good fruit.. good luck with that


Twistie

Well Mr. good tooty fruity why did Jesus say the rudiments of this world (h20 and blood )does not profit for anything nada ,zip ?

Luck. . rather than obey the commandments to study oneself approval by God the teacher? He warns of of those who say we need a dying mankind as if that would profit .

Surely he did not mean worthless .

He does not use worthless things as part of a promised demonstration of the unseen eternal to reveal the unseen eternal..The work the Father did the first 6 days. Big difference between worthlessness and not profiting .

Again not the demonstration (33 AD) that came thousands of years after the lamb was slain (God suffered) It is a metaphor that speaks of God pouring out his Holy Spirit as Lord of lords King of kings as if it was blood or H20.. His eternal Spirit did profit

The demonstration does not serve as the actual work it does serve the law of faith "let there be" and "it was very good" Tooty fruity. . . God alone good
 
Well Mr. good tooty fruity why did Jesus say the rudiments of this world (h20 and blood )does not profit for anything nada ,zip ?

Luck. . rather than obey the commandments to study oneself approval by God the teacher? He warns of of those who say we need a dying mankind as if that would profit .

Surely he did not mean worthless .

He does not use worthless things as part of a promised demonstration of the unseen eternal to reveal the unseen eternal..The work the Father did the first 6 days. Big difference between worthlessness and not profiting .

Again not the demonstration (33 AD) that came thousands of years after the lamb was slain (God suffered) It is a metaphor that speaks of God pouring out his Holy Spirit as Lord of lords King of kings as if it was blood or H20.. His eternal Spirit did profit

The demonstration does not serve as the actual work it does serve the law of faith "let there be" and "it was very good" Tooty fruity. . . God alone good
Perhaps ya didn't see im not reading ur post ur like a basement full of fleas

Twistie
 
Dear @Twistie @Garee
It appears that you both are having difficulties in communicating in love and for the furtherance of growing in God's Word.
Move on to something else and since the thread has reached a point where it is beneficial it will be close to further replies.

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For in much wisdom [is] much grief, And he who increases knowledge increases sorrow. Ecclesiastes 1:18 NKJV
 
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