Adziilii
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MONOGENES
Q: One translation of John 1:18 says that Jesus is the only-begotten god; while another translation says Jesus is the only begotten son. Which translation is correct?
A: Either translation will do because, biologically speaking, they're both saying the very same thing.
Depending upon one's translation of choice; Jesus Christ is described in John 1:14, John 1:18, John 3:16, and John 3:18, as the only-begotten god and/or the only-begotten son of God. All four passages are translated from the Greek word monogenes (mon-og-en-ace') which is a combination of two words.
The first is mono, which music buffs recognize as a single channel rather than two or four in surround sound stereo. Mono is very common; e.g. monogamy, monofilament, monotonous, mononucleotide, monochrome, monogram, monolith, monologue, monomial, et al.
The other word is genes; from whence we get the English word gene; which Webster's defines as a biological term indicating a part of a cell that controls or influences the appearance, growth, etc., of a living thing. In other words: monogenes refers to one biological gene set rather than many.
Monogenes always, and without exception, refers to a parent's sole biological child in the New Testament. If a parent has two or more biological children, none of them qualify as monogenes because in order to qualify as a monogenes child, the child has to be an only child. Obviously then, an adopted child can never be monogenes in the home because it wouldn't be the home's biological child. Examples of monogenes children are located at Luke 7:12, Luke 8:42, and Luke 9:38.
So then, scientifically speaking, Christ is unique in that he is God's biological offspring, while God's other sons are not; viz: they're placed as sons, i.e. adopted. (Rom 8:15-16, Gal 4:4-6, Eph 1:4-5)
Q: God literally fathered a child?
A: I think it's probably a bit more accurate to say that God literally co-fathered a child.
Q: How did he do it? Is there a Mrs. God? And who was the other father?
A: Jesus' conception, described at Luke 1:26-35, wasn't only miraculous, it was an dazzling combination of human and divine.
David contributed the human element. (Luke 1:32, Acts 13:22-23, and Rom 1:1-3)
God contributed the divine element. (Luke 1:35 and 1John 3:9)
Jesus then, is just as much God's offspring as he is David's; and just as much David's offspring as he is God's.
To say that this is baffling, illogical, unscientific, and unreasonable would be an understatement. In my mind's normal way of thinking, Christ's rather odd case of mixed-race genetics is an outlandish fantasy; nevertheless, it's in the Bible; so then those of us who call ourselves Christians have got to come to terms with it.
Jehovah's Witnesses are fortunate in one respect. They're called upon to believe things that mostly make sense; whereas us Christians are called upon to believe certain things that make no sense at all.
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MONOGENES
Q: One translation of John 1:18 says that Jesus is the only-begotten god; while another translation says Jesus is the only begotten son. Which translation is correct?
A: Either translation will do because, biologically speaking, they're both saying the very same thing.
Depending upon one's translation of choice; Jesus Christ is described in John 1:14, John 1:18, John 3:16, and John 3:18, as the only-begotten god and/or the only-begotten son of God. All four passages are translated from the Greek word monogenes (mon-og-en-ace') which is a combination of two words.
The first is mono, which music buffs recognize as a single channel rather than two or four in surround sound stereo. Mono is very common; e.g. monogamy, monofilament, monotonous, mononucleotide, monochrome, monogram, monolith, monologue, monomial, et al.
The other word is genes; from whence we get the English word gene; which Webster's defines as a biological term indicating a part of a cell that controls or influences the appearance, growth, etc., of a living thing. In other words: monogenes refers to one biological gene set rather than many.
Monogenes always, and without exception, refers to a parent's sole biological child in the New Testament. If a parent has two or more biological children, none of them qualify as monogenes because in order to qualify as a monogenes child, the child has to be an only child. Obviously then, an adopted child can never be monogenes in the home because it wouldn't be the home's biological child. Examples of monogenes children are located at Luke 7:12, Luke 8:42, and Luke 9:38.
So then, scientifically speaking, Christ is unique in that he is God's biological offspring, while God's other sons are not; viz: they're placed as sons, i.e. adopted. (Rom 8:15-16, Gal 4:4-6, Eph 1:4-5)
Q: God literally fathered a child?
A: I think it's probably a bit more accurate to say that God literally co-fathered a child.
Q: How did he do it? Is there a Mrs. God? And who was the other father?
A: Jesus' conception, described at Luke 1:26-35, wasn't only miraculous, it was an dazzling combination of human and divine.
David contributed the human element. (Luke 1:32, Acts 13:22-23, and Rom 1:1-3)
God contributed the divine element. (Luke 1:35 and 1John 3:9)
Jesus then, is just as much God's offspring as he is David's; and just as much David's offspring as he is God's.
To say that this is baffling, illogical, unscientific, and unreasonable would be an understatement. In my mind's normal way of thinking, Christ's rather odd case of mixed-race genetics is an outlandish fantasy; nevertheless, it's in the Bible; so then those of us who call ourselves Christians have got to come to terms with it.
Jehovah's Witnesses are fortunate in one respect. They're called upon to believe things that mostly make sense; whereas us Christians are called upon to believe certain things that make no sense at all.
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