Welcome!

By registering with us, you'll be able to discuss, share and private message with other members of our community.

SignUp Now!
  • Welcome to Talk Jesus Christian Forums

    Celebrating 20 Years!

    A bible based, Jesus Christ centered community.

    Register Log In

What does it mean to take every thought captive (2 Corinthians Chapter10 v5)?

Take your thoughts captive .... so that What?

So that = WHAT?

The reason you do it, is the context of the point...

So, the verse says that there are thoughts that are not in obedience to Christ.

In what way, ?????? as THAT is the verse's understanding.

And that is simply to not allow anything in your belief system to try to take credit for salvation that CHRIST has gained for you, on the Cross, by and through your FAITH .

See, that is the verse's point. You are not to try to save yourself, or to give credit to anything but Christ alone, for saving you and keeping you saved.
= Get those types of THOUGHTS out of your head......do not let them nest and grow as a belief, as they are in opposition to the finished work of Jesus on The CROSS.

This verse is teaching you to not allow yourself to become a LEGALIST.. as a legalist's faith, is in themselves to try to be good enough for God to accept.
The Legalist places faith in SELF deeds, and water baptism, and all sorts of self effort, that are not in obedience to the Saving Grace that CHRIST had gained for your on the Cross.
Every negative thought is ours every good thought is of He who dwells in is we r told one good so when we get a negative capture it n we can because of He who dwells in us (Immanuel)we can n change the thought pattern :broken_heart:


Man can do no good with out the power of YH He is the only good so when one does do good one should praise n thank Him for it no matter what it may b

Twistie
 
So then....How do you take a thought? To make it captive? How do you take a thought? In spite of what our friend Twistie says, NOT ALL of our thoughts are ours...Most of them come from the enemy....."Take NO Thought saying....." You take a thought by speaking it.....A thought unspoken will die stillborn
 
So then....How do you take a thought? To make it captive? How do you take a thought? In spite of what our friend Twistie says, NOT ALL of our thoughts are ours...Most of them come from the enemy....."Take NO Thought saying....." You take a thought by speaking it.....A thought unspoken will die stillborn
N tho what u say may b true that some thought come from satan I am still responsible for the thought for sin was crouching at the door because of me not satan

Oh how many will Claim satan made me do it n not take any responsibility


Twistie :broken_heart:
 
N tho what u say may b true that some thought come from satan I am still responsible for the thought for sin was crouching at the door because of me not satan

Oh how many will Claim satan made me do it n not take any responsibility

Twistie :broken_heart:
Do you always do things for what people will think? You will answer to the Lord...Do what He says. What people think is of no consequence
 
You all need to define the difference between temptation (only mentioned once in these 3 pages) and sin, and when does it move from being able to identify it as temptation, to moving to being a sin? All thought processes.

How we handle the temptation will determine whether it blossoms into sin. This also means that it could be a recurring temptation, for in our weakness, we are still weak without Him. So, unless we haven't handled it correctly each time it rears its head, then sin is probably the end result.

Of course, our God being just, and loving will allow that though we didn't take the way out He provided, does allow us to repent, and be forgiven when we sin. Until the temptation becomes neutered with no effect and the adversary will of course move on to something else. Pride, lust, money, etc. What man can fall prey to, is as endless as our imagination (touched upon numerous times on the thread), and ability to move away from our precious God, when things are going good makes for fertile ground for temptation to sprout. Kinda like a weed on a fine trimmed lawn. Got to get them all!!!

Well, my two cents. :)

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
\o/
<><
 
You all need to define the difference between temptation (only mentioned once in these 3 pages) and sin, and when does it move from being able to identify it as temptation, to moving to being a sin? All thought processes.

How we handle the temptation will determine whether it blossoms into sin. This also means that it could be a recurring temptation, for in our weakness, we are still weak without Him. So, unless we haven't handled it correctly each time it rears its head, then sin is probably the end result.

Of course, our God being just, and loving will allow that though we didn't take the way out He provided, does allow us to repent, and be forgiven when we sin. Until the temptation becomes neutered with no effect and the adversary will of course move on to something else. Pride, lust, money, etc. What man can fall prey to, is as endless as our imagination (touched upon numerous times on the thread), and ability to move away from our precious God, when things are going good makes for fertile ground for temptation to sprout. Kinda like a weed on a fine trimmed lawn. Got to get them all!!!

Well, my two cents. :)

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
\o/
<><
And the dynamics of temptation? How does it work?

James 1:14-15
14 Rather, each person is being tempted whenever he is being dragged off and enticed by the bait of his own desire. 15 Then, having conceived, the desire gives birth to sin; and when sin is fully grown, it gives birth to death.​

 
And the dynamics of temptation? How does it work?

James 1:14-15​

14 Rather, each person is being tempted whenever he is being dragged off and enticed by the bait of his own desire. 15 Then, having conceived, the desire gives birth to sin; and when sin is fully grown, it gives birth to death.​


Agreed.

It is truly a battle between the Spirit & the Flesh.

"Watch and pray, lest you enter into temptation. The spirit indeed [is] willing, but the flesh [is] weak." Mark 14:38 NKJV

For though many walk in the Spirit, they still battle the Flesh.

No temptation has overtaken you except such as is common to man; but God [is] faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape, that you may be able to bear [it]. 1Corinthians 10:13 NKJV

Thank-you for sharing Brother.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC
Nick
\o/
<><
 
And the dynamics of temptation? How does it work?

James 1:14-15​

14 Rather, each person is being tempted whenever he is being dragged off and enticed by the bait of his own desire. 15 Then, having conceived, the desire gives birth to sin; and when sin is fully grown, it gives birth to death.​

N that's why we capture the thought recognize it for what it is

He is so simple a child can understand yet man want to complicate it

Twistie :broken_heart:
 
He means exactly what He says it's man that like to try n twirk the Word so to say n it's not as simple as it may sound especially while beefing with a person which I try so hard not to do at time but at last I have to go out for certain things n just some days well hopefully you get my drift
I presume that why we r told to b slow to anger n quick to listen which I am improving in that area if I do say so myself

But ya He means Exactly what He says n if ya don't understand something we can go right to Abba n ask That One of the Amazing gifts that have been given to us His children ya know?

How beautiful is that

Welp

Have a nice night!

Twistie :broken_heart:
Proverbs 25: 2
 
Greetings
if I may, a little study about the war of the mind, these are brainstorm, not so much a type of thinking, but a type of spiritual intervention to the believer, I experience this every night non-stop
what I try to do, is to cast down, not just stronghold, but foresees
One is always using the Amor of God (Eph 6:11). see I always wonder if Satan uses fiery darts (Eph 6: 16).
A believer has in his or her possesses which is the shield of faith.
Satan uses fiery darts (Eph 6: 16). are frequencies, because the mind is designed as a bird using its compass for direction, using earth's magnetic field.
Now I know may think that is natural but is in our nature as to how to understand the mind.
The world is use frequencies in everyday life, remember Satan is Prince of the Air (Eph. 2:2). frequencies travel through the airwaves
Satan uses fiery darts are frequencies that travel through the mind.
I can prove my theory, in a spiritual way.

Cast Down Fortress Stronghold that is satanic
the-mind.jpg

Satan was and is the Chief Musician
Job 38:7 (NKJV)
When the morning stars sang together, And all the sons of God shouted for joy?

2 Corinthians 10:4-6 (NKJV) For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ and being ready to punish all disobedience when your obedience is fulfilled.

2 Corinthians 10: 5 mighty in God for pulling down strongholds

Satanic strongholds against God Fortress Stronghold
download-62.jpg

the prince of the power of the air-the Troposphere the first heaven and also used for radio waves frequencies
In Ephesians 2:2 (NKJV)
in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience,

In Revelation 11:8 reading from the (NKJV) And their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

In Ephesians 6:12 (NKJV) For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.

Note: spiritually is called Sodom and Egyp Satanic strongholds against God Fortress Stronghold, Principalities a place that is the ruler

Note: where also our Lord was crucified., a place or a Church that is Satanic, this a man in on a cross crucified spiritually is a place which the Lord says is called Sodom and Egyp a Great City which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt,

Bring the mind into Captivity, but using satanic in the airwaves,
3d-illustration-women-feeling-headache-260nw-603102458.jpg
brainandpainshutterstock-603101843768x576.jpg

Matthew 19:28 (NKJV)
So Jesus said to them, "Assuredly I say to you, that in the regeneration, when the Son of Man sits on the throne of His glory, you who have followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Where in scripture does it say Satan was a choir directer? Did he play piano or guitar?
 
Where in scripture does it say Satan was a choir directer? Did he play piano or guitar?
Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

Twistie :broken_heart:
 
This tells us how Jesus cast down evil thoughts and how he brought every imagination into captivity using spiritual weapons of the word of God.

Luk 4:1 And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness,
Luk 4:2 Being forty days tempted of the devil. And in those days he did eat nothing: and when they were ended, he afterward hungered.
Luk 4:3 And the devil said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, command this stone that it be made bread.
Luk 4:4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
Luk 4:5 And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.
Luk 4:6 And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.
Luk 4:7 If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine.
Luk 4:8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
Luk 4:9 And he brought him to Jerusalem, and set him on a pinnacle of the temple, and said unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down from hence:
Luk 4:10 For it is written, He shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee:
Luk 4:11 And in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.
Luk 4:12 And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.
Luk 4:13 And when the devil had ended all the temptation, he departed from him for a season.
 
Where in scripture does it say Satan was a choir directer? Did he piano or guitar?

Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

Twistie :broken_heart:

Where does it say he is talking to satan.
Do you reckon theere are pipe organs in heaven? Why do you believe those pipes are a musical apparatus?
 
Where does it say he is talking to satan.
Do you reckon theere are pipe organs in heaven? Why do you believe those pipes are a musical apparatus?
Ya gonna have to ponder with YH lentz .. only One can reveal.. I understand it sounds cliche but it the honest to God's Truth...
I think many times mans ego gets so high they forget we r not teachers tho the egos of some may get butt hurt but it's the Truth..
It has seem to become the normal for man wanting to b spoon fed n to spoon feed that many times they just need to be pointed back to YH for the answers they seek.. YH is the only one who knows how u need to b taught how to teach you n know where u r at Spiritually ya get what I mean.. i so hope u don't take this like I'm being like condescending cause I'm really not.. it just the way YH teaches is just an experience that oh idk it just a amazing experience..

Seek n you will find
Ask u will receive
B still n know He is YH..

Twistie :broken_heart:
 
Ya gonna have to ponder with YH lentz .. only One can reveal.. I understand it sounds cliche but it the honest to God's Truth...
I think many times mans ego gets so high they forget we r not teachers tho the egos of some may get butt hurt but it's the Truth..
It has seem to become the normal for man wanting to b spoon fed n to spoon feed that many times they just need to be pointed back to YH for the answers they seek.. YH is the only one who knows how u need to b taught how to teach you n know where u r at Spiritually ya get what I mean.. i so hope u don't take this like I'm being like condescending cause I'm really not.. it just the way YH teaches is just an experience that oh idk it just a amazing experience..

Seek n you will find
Ask u will receive
B still n know He is YH..

Twistie :broken_heart:
Well i must say that is a long round about way of just saying,you dont know.
Love ya sister
 
Well i must say that is a long round about way of just saying,you dont know.
Love ya sister
No I do lol... But it all good I understand why u would think that..
There r somethings I can't put in writing... The way my brain work is much different then many.. head trauma seems to stick around lol..

But I stick to what I have said:):rolleyes:

Twistie :broken_heart:
 
No I do lol... But it all good I understand why u would think that..
There r somethings I can't put in writing... The way my brain work is much different then many.. head trauma seems to stick around lol..

But I stick to what I have said:):rolleyes:

Twistie :broken_heart:
One question what kinda of pipes do u think YH is talking about??


Twistie :eyes:
 
Well i must say that is a long round about way of just saying,you dont know.
Love ya sister
One question what kinda of pipes do u think YH is talking about??

Seems to me YH loves to be Worshipped n Music.. I mean it's written about in quite a few places

Twistie :eyes: :eyes:
 
One question what kinda of pipes do u think YH is talking about??

Seems to me YH loves to be Worshipped n Music.. I mean it's written about in quite a few places

Twistie :eyes: :eyes:

Well sister,i am not afraid to say,I dont know. I have no idea.
But,i do not believe there are musical instuments in heaven. Lkie i donr believe there are horses in heaven.(those in revelation)
 
Back
Top