What Is Blaspheming the Holy Ghost?

[GodB4Us]

I submit that it is about resisting believing in Jesus Christ because that is the only sin the Holy Spirit will convict of for which there is no forgiveness.

John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. 8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9 Of sin, because they believe not on me; 10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; 11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.

So read this message in context about how that sin of unbelief is the unforgiveable sin to see the motivation behind the Pharisees striving to get the crowd to not believe in Him.

Matthew 12:22 Then was brought unto him one possessed with a devil, blind, and dumb: and he healed him, insomuch that the blind and dumb both spake and saw. 23 And all the people were amazed, and said, Is not this the son of David?

24 But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.

25 And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand: 26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand? 27 And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges. 28 But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you. 29 Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house. 30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. 32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

33 Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit. 34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. 35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.

36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. 37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

38 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.

39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: 40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. 41 The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: because they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here.

What is that condemnation? Unbelief.

I remember a Christian girl had posted a thread worrying about her sins in blaspheming the Holy Ghost before she was saved. She had said nasty things about the Holy Spirit, and so I do not believe The Father would have drawn her unto the Son to believe in Him to be saved if her insults towards the Holy Spirit was what Jesus was talking about. Why would God bother to save her then?

It is unbelief in Jesus Christ is the only sin the Holy Ghost will convict of that is the unforgiveable sin.

We are to test the spirits to know what is the spirit of the antichrist as being outside of us as opposed to the real indwelling Holy Ghost in us since salvation. 1 John 4:1-6 & 2 Corinthians 11:1-4 & 2 Corinthians 13:5 & 1 Timothy 4:1-2 It is hypocrisy to receive the Holy Spirit again when He has been in you since salvation at the calling of the gospel.

This is about keeping the faith in Jesus Christ which is the good fight.

 

[Garee]

I would offer Blasphemy is attributing the power of our unseen eternal God or Holy Spirit to a creature seen .

Blasphemy against the Son of man Jesus, the temporal seen was forgiven .

 

[Waggles]

I submit that it is about resisting believing in Jesus Christ because that is the only sin the Holy Spirit will convict of for which there is no forgiveness.

It is also denying the signs and work and purpose of the indwelling Holy Spirit as God given.
Most cessation teaching against the Spirit-filled church, Mark 16:15-20, praying in tongues and the gifts of the Holy Spirit in the body of Christ skates on very thin ice.
While some may openly claim that the above is from the dark side and not from God, all cessationists pretty well preach against the gospel written in our NT - a Pentecostal gospel
that had signs, wonders and miracles by the power of God and where disciples prayed in the Spirit.

 

[GodB4Us]

It is also denying the signs and work and purpose of the indwelling Holy Spirit as God given.
Most cessation teaching against the Spirit-filled church, Mark 16:15-20, praying in tongues and the gifts of the Holy Spirit in the body of Christ skates on very thin ice.
While some may openly claim that the above is from the dark side and not from God, all cessationists pretty well preach against the gospel written in our NT - a Pentecostal gospel
that had signs, wonders and miracles by the power of God and where disciples prayed in the Spirit.

The problem here is that God's gift of tongues are of other men's lips to speak unto the people ( 1 Corinthians 14:21 ) for why I will never believe it is for private use, especially when gained by seeking another baptism with the Holy Ghost by that sign of tongue after salvation ( 1 Corinthians 14:22 ). That is an apostate calling and for why that tongue is not coming with interpretation because it is not the real God's gift of tongues.

Since the devil's supernatural tongue has been like that gibberish nonsense before Pentecost per Isaiah 8:19, why do you think it is okay to call that evil tongue, good now?

 

[Garee]

It is also denying the signs and work and purpose of the indwelling Holy Spirit as God given.
Most cessation teaching against the Spirit-filled church, Mark 16:15-20, praying in tongues and the gifts of the Holy Spirit in the body of Christ skates on very thin ice.
While some may openly claim that the above is from the dark side and not from God, all cessationists pretty well preach against the gospel written in our NT - a Pentecostal gospel
that had signs, wonders and miracles by the power of God and where disciples prayed in the Spirit.

What is the purpose of nothing that causes nothing, sounds without reason?

No such thing as making senseless noises and called it a sign gift .

Jesus says its an evil genraration that seeks after signs to wonder after. No sign was given to wonder after other that the sign of Jonas. Jesus fulfilled it at the cross.. Prophecy the tongue of God as it is written is for believers.

Every believers is filled by the Holy Spirit from the moment they believe .

Those who seek after sign and wonders made jess into a circus seal. Perform a miracle then we will believe

John 4:48 Then said Jesus unto him, Except ye see signs and wonders, ye will not believe.

John 6:30 They said therefore unto him, What sign shewest thou then, that we may see, and believe thee? what dost thou work?

None of the spiritual unseen gifts have ceased . What has ceased is new revelations. We have the perfect with a warning at the end not to add or subtract . Revelation remains the last Book

Satan is still bringing with all power to deceive lying signs to wonder, wonder wonder after . They would mean if someone did make a senseless noise it would be limited to what is already revealed

 

[Waggles]

why do you think it is okay to call that evil tongue, good now?

Blasphemy.
You are calling the gift of God - his spiritual tongue given to believers evil.
You are walking on hot coals here.
And prove to us all that praying to God in tongues is the same as what allegedly pagan worshippers speak??

 

[Garee]

Blasphemy.
You are calling the gift of God - his spiritual tongue given to believers evil.
You are walking on hot coals here.
And prove to us all that praying to God in tongues is the same as what allegedly pagan worshippers speak??

How could a person prove if the language gives no meaning ? Fall backward slain in the Spirit?


Isiah 28: 9 -13 The people say, “Who does he think he is trying to teach and explain his message to? Does he think we are babies who were at their mother’s breast only a very short time ago? He speaks to us as though we were babies:“Saw lasaw saw lasaw
Qaw laqaw qaw laqawZe’er sham ze’er sham.”So God will use this strange way of talking, and he will use other languages to speak to these people. In the past he spoke to them and said, “Here is a resting place. Let those who are tired come and rest. This is the place of peace.”But they would not listen to him. So the Lord’s words will be senseless sounds to them:
“Saw lasaw saw lasaw. Qaw laqaw qaw laqaw. Ze’er sham ze’er sham.” When the people try to walk, they will fall backwards. They will be defeated, trapped, and captured.

 

[Curtis]

Jesus said, "how much shall my heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him." The Holy Spirit is not a "sign" he is a person who just happens to be the one who performs miracles in our midst! The Holy Spirit is the one who performs signs through the person he dwells upon and within.

 

[Curtis]

I am wondering those who think they are filled with the Holy Spirit when they first believed (born again) and believe there is no second infilling what are you going to do with this scripture?

Eph 5:18 Stop getting drunk with wine, which leads to wild living but keep on being filled with the Spirit. (ISV)

Can anyone remember saints being filled with the Holy Spirit more than once?

 

[Curtis]

Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is not just rejecting the Gospel which the Holy Spirit confirms to be true, it is also rejecting the work of the Holy Spirit in the lives of others who are manafesting his work.

 

[Curtis]

The "natural man" will always reject and not receive the things of the Holy Spirit for they foolishness to unto neither can he know them for they spiritualy understood.

 

[Waggles]

How could a person prove if the language gives no meaning ?

So then why are you claiming that praying in tongues is equivalent to what supposedly pagan worshippers do?
As for the false claim that speaking in tongues has no meaning I have found that God understands me perfectly well.

 

[Waggles]

Can anyone remember saints being filled with the Holy Spirit more than once?

NO - but when praying in the Spirit [praying in tongues] then the living water of the Holy Spirit wells up and flows through us and also refreshes us.

John 7:37 Now on the last, the great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any thirst, let him come unto me and drink.
38 Who believeth unto me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.

 

[Curtis]

Eph 5:18 Stop getting drunk with wine, which leads to wild living but keep on being filled with the Spirit. (ISV)

Can anyone remember saints being filled with the Holy Spirit more than once?

Peter and John who had already been filled with the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost were filled "again" along with the other believers with them.

Act 4:30 While You stretch out Your hand to cure and to perform signs and wonders through the authority and by the power of the name of Your holy Child and Servant Jesus.
Act 4:31 And when they had prayed, the place in which they were assembled was shaken; and they were all filled with the Holy Spirit, and they continued to speak the Word of God with freedom and boldness and courage. (ESV)

 

[Garee]

So then why are you claiming that praying in tongues is equivalent to what supposedly pagan worshippers do?
As for the false claim that speaking in tongues has no meaning I have found that God understands me perfectly well.

And you know because you wonder, wonder, wonder what you said and wonder what the answer is?

How do you know he understands If you have no understanding what you asked for?

 

[Curtis]

And you know because you wonder, wonder, wonder what you said and wonder what the answer is?

How do you know he understands If you have no understanding what you asked for?

1Co 14:13 Therefore, the person who speaks in an [unknown] tongue should pray [for the power] to interpret and explain what he says.(AMP)

 

[Waggles]

And you know because you wonder, wonder, wonder what you said and wonder what the answer is?
How do you know he understands If you have no understanding what you asked for?

1Cor 14:14 For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my understanding is unfruitful.
15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.

 

[Garee]

1Cor 14:14 For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my understanding is unfruitful.
15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.

Remember today God is no longer bringing any new prophecy to begin with.. The book of prophecy the Bible ended with Revelation.

Start in the beginning where it speaks of spiritual gifts not seen . Not what some call sign gifts. The goal is to prophecy as a apostle ,one sent with prophecy the words of God.

1 Corinthians 14:1 Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, (not sign gifts) but rather that ye may prophesy.

Why prophecy rather than being unfruitful not understanding?

2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.

Prophecy give a fruitful edification from God which edifies God, our comforter and guide

3 But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort.

He that speaks in other languages onlyproduces fals pride but he whobring the word of God builds upthe whole churcg with prophecy

4 He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.

Prophesying as one sent by God and others hearing the word of God in their own language was used when God was still bringing new prophecy and recording it .So then he that speaks in another language proves fruitless having no understanding

5 I would that ye all spake with tongues but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.

Again no profit unless there is a understanding coming from God

6 Now, brethren, if I come unto you speaking with tongues, what shall I profit you, except I shall speak to you either by revelation, or by knowledge, or by prophesying, or by doctrine?

Again no profit unless there is a understanding coming from God

7- And even things without life giving sound, whether pipe or harp, except they give a distinction in the sounds, how shall it be known what is piped or harped?

Again no profit unless there is a understanding coming from God

8 For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle?

Therefore in conclusion speak words like that of Jesus easy to understand rather than words spoken to the air unfruitful sounds the clanging of brass .

9 So likewise ye, except ye utter by the tongue words easy to be understood, how shall it be known what is spoken? for ye shall speak into the air.

Many different languages as tongues that provide the fruit or understanding

10 There are, it may be, so many kinds of voices in the world, and none of them is without signification.

iIs not about one barbarian, fro m one tribe making noise without meaning to another .

11 Therefore if I know not the meaning of the voice, I shall be unto him that speaketh a barbarian, and he that speaketh shall be a barbarian unto me.

Again spiritual gifts not seen. No such thing as a "sign gifts " seen.

If a person needs a sign gift as evidence they are walking by sight and not faith for self edification rather than edifying God . Why not say you read the book of prophecy the Bible . or I go to church? or fold my hands

12 Even so ye, forasmuch as ye are zealous of "spiritual gifts" (not sign gifts), seek that ye may excel to the edifying of the church.

Again if a person speaks in a language foreign to them they should be silent

13 Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret.

Again why promote fruit without understanding.. the whole context of the chapter ?

14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.

All churches are Holy Spirit filled none are signs as a way to wonder churches

Why make Jesus into a circus seal ?

John 4:48 Then said Jesus unto him, Except ye see signs and wonders, ye will not believe.

John 6:30 They said therefore unto him, What sign shewest thou then, that we may see, and believe thee? what dost thou work?

 

[Curtis]

John 4:48 Then said Jesus unto him, Except ye see signs and wonders, ye will not believe.

John 6:30 They said therefore unto him, What sign shewest thou then, that we may see, and believe thee? what dost thou work?

Believers never need a "sign" to believe as they are already a believer.

 

[Curtis]

All churches are Holy Spirit filled none are signs as a way to wonder churches

Act 4:29 And now, Lord, behold their threatenings: and grant unto thy servants, that with all boldness they may speak thy word,
Act 4:30 By stretching forth thine hand to heal; and that signs and wonders may be done by the name of thy holy child Jesus.
Act 4:31 And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake the word of God with boldness.