When are we resurrected?

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As you quoted Jesus He said the resurrection was the last day. He is the Creator of all things He created the days weeks years etc. What is your understanding of His use of the term 'last day' ?

Hello Reba!,

I believe the words, 'the last day', refers to the last day of this present age.: for there are 'ages' to come. The word 'day' can refer to a period of time, rather than a 24 hour period. I cannot say for certain for I do not know.

Thank you
In Jesus Name
Chris

 

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When does the resurrection happen? Here are some scripture to think about.

John 5:28; "Do not marvel at this; for an hour is coming, in which all who are in the tombs will hear His voice,
John 5:29; and will come forth; those who did the good deeds to a resurrection of life, those who committed the evil deeds to a resurrection of judgment.
John 11:23; Jesus *said to her, "Your brother will rise again."
John 11:24; Martha *said to Him, "I know that he will rise again in the resurrection on the last day."
Acts 24:15; having a hope in God, which these men cherish themselves, that there shall certainly be a resurrection of both the righteous and the wicked.

Hello @B-A-C,

The whole passage of Scripture in which these first verses you quote are found (John 5:19-29) is wonderful to read, telling as it does that the dead will hear the Saviour's voice and will come forth, some to a resurrection of life, and some to a resurrection of judgment.

Martha also, in John 11:23-24, confirms that she, like her fellow countrymen (Acts 24:15) who 'hope in God', 'cherish' the hope of the resurrection that will take place on the last day of this present age. A resurrection both of the righteous and the wicked.

@B-A-C, said:-
Rev 20:4; Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.
Rev 20:5; The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were completed. This is the first resurrection.
Rev 20:6; Blessed and holy is the one who has a part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with Him for a thousand years.

* This is a very special resurrection, isn't it? It is the resurrection of a specific company: a company comprised of those who did not worship the beast or his image, nor received his mark on their forehead or their hand, and paid the ultimate price for their faithfulness to the testimony of Christ, and the word of God: for they had been beheaded.

* Is this also the resurrection which Martha, and her fellow countrymen looked for in John 11? and the people of Israel who hoped in God of Acts 24:15?

@B-A-C said:-
John 6:40; "For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and believes in Him will have eternal life, and I Myself will raise him up on the last day."
John 6:44; "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day.
John 6:54; "He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.

* Is this resurrection the same as that referred to in Revelation 20:4-6, John 11:24-24 and Acts 24:15?

B-A-C said:-
1 Thes 4:14; For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep in Jesus.
1 Thes 4:15; For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep.
1 Thes 4:16; For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.
1 Thes 4:17; Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord.

* These are the believing dead, and those who will be alive and remaining at the coming of the Lord for His own, to raise them up on the last day of this present age.

B-A-C said:-
Rev 20:11; Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat upon it, from whose presence earth and heaven fled away, and no place was found for them.
Rev 20:12; And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds.
Rev 20:13; And the sea gave up the dead which were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead which were in them; and they were judged, every one of them according to their deeds.

* This is quite a different resurrection isn't it, and cannot be linked with what has gone before.

B-A-C said:-
Job 14:12; So man lies down and does not rise. Until the heavens are no longer, He will not awake nor be aroused out of his sleep.
John 3:13; "No one has ascended into heaven, but He who descended from heaven: the Son of Man.
Acts 2:34; "For it was not David who ascended into heaven, but he himself says: 'THE LORD SAID TO MY LORD, "SIT AT MY RIGHT HAND,
After Samuel died, Saul had a witch bring him back to life.
1 Sam 28:15; Then Samuel said to Saul, "Why have you awakened me by bringing me up?" And Saul answered, "I am greatly distressed; for the Philistines are waging war against me, and God has departed from me and no longer answers me, either through prophets or by dreams; therefore I have called you, that you may make known to me what I should do."

* These individual references, do not refer to a resurrection as such, but should be considered individually.

* You have asked the question posed by the subject heading of the thread B-A-C, but you have not given your own conclusion, as to it's answer.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[Reba1]

Hello Reba!,

I believe the words, 'the last day', refers to the last day of this present age.: for there are 'ages' to come. The word 'day' can refer to a period of time, rather than a 24 hour period. I cannot say for certain for I do not know.

Thank you

Hello Reba!,

I believe the words, 'the last day', refers to the last day of this present age.: for there are 'ages' to come. The word 'day' can refer to a period of time, rather than a 24 hour period. I cannot say for certain for I do not know.

Thank you
In Jesus Name
Chris

If Jesu/God meant the end of an age why did He not say end of this age? He created the day He knows 24 hours is a day. . Trusting in a theologians words over the plain straight simple words of Jesus does not seem like a good idea to me. I too can not say for certain that i why i trust Him He certainly said LAST DAY and He knows.

 

[Hitch]

If Jesu/God meant the end of an age why did He not say end of this age? He created the day He knows 24 hours is a day. . Trusting in a theologians words over the plain straight simple words of Jesus does not seem like a good idea to me. I too can not say for certain that i why i trust Him He certainly said LAST DAY and He knows.

Last day' is an interesting term in Scripture , and its always those folks that spout out that God means what He says that have trouble with it. It is used 8 times in all of Scripture , always in a plain and literal fashion. And for Dispensationalists its even more trouble. Why? Because according to dispensationalism Jesus NEVER spoke during the 'church age' .

 

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'Then when Jesus came, He found that he (Lazarus) had lain in the grave four days already.
Now Bethany was nigh unto Jerusalem, about fifteen furlongs off:
And many of the Jews came to Martha and Mary, to comfort them concerning their brother.
Then Martha, as soon as she heard that Jesus was coming, went and met Him: but Mary sat still in the house.
Then said Martha unto Jesus, Lord, if thou hadst been here, my brother had not died.
But I know, that even now, whatsoever Thou wilt ask of God, God will give it Thee.
Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again.
Martha saith unto Him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.
Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life:
he that believeth in Me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
She saith unto Him, Yea, Lord: I believe that Thou art the Christ, the Son of God, which should come into the world.'
(Joh 11:17-27)

Praise God!

 

[Hitch]

'Then when Jesus came, He found that he (Lazarus) had lain in the grave four days already.
Now Bethany was nigh unto Jerusalem, about fifteen furlongs off:
And many of the Jews came to Martha and Mary, to comfort them concerning their brother.
Then Martha, as soon as she heard that Jesus was coming, went and met Him: but Mary sat still in the house.
Then said Martha unto Jesus, Lord, if thou hadst been here, my brother had not died.
But I know, that even now, whatsoever Thou wilt ask of God, God will give it Thee.
Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again.
Martha saith unto Him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.
Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life:
he that believeth in Me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:
And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
She saith unto Him, Yea, Lord: I believe that Thou art the Christ, the Son of God, which should come into the world.'
(Joh 11:17-27)

Praise God!

Obviously Jesus had His fingers crossed because He didnt really mean the 'last day'. Dispensationalist sometimes try to say Jesus was speaking of the end of the 'church age' oddly enough according to the same folks the church age wouldnt begin for some time and since it was unforeseen in the prophets Jesus could not possible have been alluding to some obscure passage. The cool part is that this is done primarily by folks who claim to be literalist. Now to a literalist dispensational believer the term 'last day ' means any day BUT the last day, and thats funny.
The silliness is emphasized , Im sure quite unintentionally by Complete , who twice here of last has tried to support her stance , that there is a resurrection at least 1,000 years before the 'last day' but, is forced to quote Martha to the contrary

.And just a few verses later;

54 Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.

Of course Jesus is speaking to people who have never heard of the 'church age' people whos Scriptures have nothing to say of a church age, so naturally when they heard Him declare the resurrection would come at the last day, they would understand thats NOT what He meant., He really meant the last of the 'church age' . Just as it is written II Hezikiah 2;14

 

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Obviously Jesus had His fingers crossed because He didnt really mean the 'last day'. Dispensationalist sometimes try to say Jesus was speaking of the end of the 'church age' oddly enough according to the same folks the church age wouldnt begin for some time and since it was unforeseen in the prophets Jesus could not possible have been alluding to some obscure passage. The cool part is that this is done primarily by folks who claim to be literalist. Now to a literalist dispensational believer the term 'last day ' means any day BUT the last day, and thats funny.
The silliness is emphasized , Im sure quite unintentionally by Complete , who twice here of last has tried to support her stance , that there is a resurrection at least 1,000 years before the 'last day' but, is forced to quote Martha to the contrary

.And just a few verses later;

54 Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.

Of course Jesus is speaking to people who have never heard of the 'church age' people whos Scriptures have nothing to say of a church age, so naturally when they heard Him declare the resurrection would come at the last day, they would understand thats NOT what He meant., He really meant the last of the 'church age' . Just as it is written II Hezikiah 2;14

Hello @Hitch. It looks like you wanted have a fight with a dispensationalist, but you couldn't find one so created an imaginary fight with Complete instead

Jesus says two things about the last day
1. The dead will rise from their graves. John 6
2. Judgement. John 12

 

[Hitch]

Hello @Hitch. It looks like you wanted have a fight with a dispensationalist, but you couldn't find one so created an imaginary fight with Complete instead

Jesus says two things about the last day
1. The dead will rise from their graves. John 6
2. Judgement. John 12

I dont know whether Complete is DF or not just as I know DF is the majority position of English speaking evangelicals, and these posts are often read by more than whom ever is on the phone, as your presence demonstrates. That said much of what Complete has posted fits well with modern DF teaching, and also reflects much of the requirements of the OP.
Following He warning of universal resurrection and judgement ( J 5) Jesus repeats who will be on the positive side of the resurrection, who will be called and their qualifications.

 

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