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who is the Woman that sits on seven Mountains, their seven heads

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Yeh, and if “Church hill” & “Truman” would have gave some concerns to The Theologian, “Dietrich Bonhoeffer” before the “beginnings” of “WW 2” what would the cost had been. Who can be impressed with “Churchill”, because of the mere words of a mortal? Ok.
 
Yeh, and if “Church hill” & “Truman” would have gave some concerns to The Theologian, “Dietrich Bonhoeffer” before the “beginnings” of “WW 2” what would the cost had been. Who can be impressed with “Churchill”, because of the mere words of a mortal? Ok.

Loved Churchill. Loved Bonhoeffer. If only the two had met.


1945​

On April 3 Bonhoeffer is moved from Buchenwald to Regensburg. Five days later his is moved to the Flossenbürg concentration camp during the night. The next day, April 9, Bonhoeffer is executed at Flossenbürg together with other key figures of the resistance. On April 23 Klaus Bonhoeffer and Rüdiger Schleicher are killed in Berlin.

Dietrich Bonhoeffer - 1938
February 4-7. An Allied conference is held at Yalta from February 4th to 7th to discuss post-war settlements. On March 7 American forces cross Rhine River at Remagen. On April 12 President Franklin Roosevelt dies; Harry Truman is sworn in as president. On April 30 Adolf Hitler commits suicide in his Berlin bunker. By May 2 Berlin falls. On May 7 the German forces make an unconditional surrender.

On August 6 through 9 United States drops atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan. By August 15 hostilities end in the Pacific. On November 20 major war criminal trials begin in Nuremberg.
 
Loved Churchill. Loved Bonhoeffer. If only the two had met.


1945​

On April 3 Bonhoeffer is moved from Buchenwald to Regensburg. Five days later his is moved to the Flossenbürg concentration camp during the night. The next day, April 9, Bonhoeffer is executed at Flossenbürg together with other key figures of the resistance. On April 23 Klaus Bonhoeffer and Rüdiger Schleicher are killed in Berlin.

Dietrich Bonhoeffer - 1938
February 4-7. An Allied conference is held at Yalta from February 4th to 7th to discuss post-war settlements. On March 7 American forces cross Rhine River at Remagen. On April 12 President Franklin Roosevelt dies; Harry Truman is sworn in as president. On April 30 Adolf Hitler commits suicide in his Berlin bunker. By May 2 Berlin falls. On May 7 the German forces make an unconditional surrender.

On August 6 through 9 United States drops atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan. By August 15 hostilities end in the Pacific. On November 20 major war criminal trials begin in Nuremberg.
I think it was in 1978, I took an interest in the life of “Dietrich Bonhoeffer” after reading “The Cost of Discipleship” written by him. Then I was hooked, I read most everything about Him concerning his “AutoBiography” and his life in Germany, his notes. And his travels to The USA and driving through Mexico and his experiences At “Union Theological Seminary”. Even the letters he wrote to his young bride to be. And the prison conversations he had with the guards in his captivity up to his death. Although I thought he was wrong for his part in the conspiracy attempts on “Hitlers” death. The war and Hitler died a few days after “Dietrich” death. I thought only if he stood still, in the resistance he would not had died.

That is only my opinion, concern the information I had by the different “Biographies ” I have read about him and his notes.
I really like that guy’s;
“The Cost of Discipeship”.
 
PERHAPS the woman was those who were born holy by the Spirit of Christ in them toward the end of the Roman Empire that were non-repentant believers and unbelievers living as part of the world by entertaining the lusts of the flesh, the lusts of the eye, and the pride of life. In previous years, they were a beast by being born into the world without the Spirit of Christ, that is not a beast by being born again into the world out of the "pit" with the Spirit of Christ in them, and yet was a beast by continuing to follow the ways of the sinful world, even though they had the right to become a child of God by having the Spirit of Christ within them. These verses appear to reveal the woman as that great city, the holy Jerusalem, the bride of Christ. The six kingdoms at the time of the prophecy were: 1) Egypt, 2) Assyria, 3) Babylon, 4) Medes/Persians, 5) Greece, 6) Rome, 7) Christendom for a short while in the Roman Empire, that became the 8) Roman Catholic Church under the papacy and his hierarchy of priests who changed times and laws back to Law-like doctrine to peacefully "destroy" the overspreading of abominations of the holy people that were living in sin as part of the world. Under the Roman Catholic Church the rest of those who were spiritually dead in trespasses and sins were not born again by the grace of God for their faith for 1000 years because of following the Law-like doctrine. This was until the time of the reformation when the beast of the Roman Catholic Church was wounded by the sword of the word of God, but has since recovered, but does not have the same world wide authority and power over royalty and countries as it did through the medieval years, but became part of the second beast. This is what we believe happened.
The Law-like doctrine that was added by the Roman Catholic Church after 434 years after the coming of Christ was for the purpose of containing the overspreading of abominations,.........is comparable to the Mosaic Law being added 430 years after the covenant of faith between God and Abraham that was added for the purpose of containing the transgressions of the people. This is what we currently believe happened by the prophecy in Daniel 7-9, 12, but is open to correction.

With thanks to GOD our Father, in the name of the Lord Jesus,..........may GOD bless.


So he carried me away in the Spirit into the wilderness. AND I SAW A WOMAN sitting on a scarlet beast which was full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. THE WOMAN was arrayed in purple and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls, having in her hand a golden cup full of abominations and the filthiness of her fornication (Revelation 17:3-4).

And THE WOMAN WHO YOU SAW IS THAT GREAT CITY which reigns over the kings of the earth" (Revelation 17:18).

And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband (Revelation 21:2).

There came to me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come here, I will show you THE BRIDE,THE LAMBS’ WIFE. And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and showed me THAT GREAT CITY, THE HOLY JERUSALEM, descending out of heaven from God (Rev 21:9-10).
Now that is a lot of bull poop poo
 
Wow , you really do hate catholics . Smh . Lmao if you only understood anything . Like not listening to fallen preachers who are full of hate , deceptions and lies .

Are you going to actually use the Gifts of the Spirit , or just continue to pretend to, and then keep saying " i am a Christian " ? Because this is all i ever see from many of you here .

Being filled with the Holy Spirit includes hearing and experiencing God daily . Not just when it suits you.

Use the Gifts of Discernment, recognize God's peace in your hearts. Love your brothers and sisters, because those who you love to hate are your brothers and sisters too.
 
Ok, you begin to sound like “Matin Luther”. Lol
What people dont understand about Martin Luther, at least many catholics, he was right on many arguements he nailed on the church doors. What many protestants are not taught, he never ment for the church to split, and he himself was a priest. So at least for what the catholic church was really all about ( the heart of the church ) is also something he believed in.

In many ways, it is like America, the USA. i really beleave in this country, and what the For-Fathers ( signers of the Declaration of Independence) stood for.
Yet as it seems today, via our government officials, you would never know it. Unless you dig
 
Wow , you really do hate catholics . Smh . Lmao if you only understood anything . Like not listening to fallen preachers who are full of hate , deceptions and lies .

Are you going to actually use the Gifts of the Spirit , or just continue to pretend to, and then keep saying " i am a Christian " ? Because this is all i ever see from many of you here .

Being filled with the Holy Spirit includes hearing and experiencing God daily . Not just when it suits you.

Use the Gifts of Discernment, recognize God's peace in your hearts. Love your brothers and sisters, because those who you love to hate are your brothers and sisters too.

No we do not hate Catholics. We were only sharing what we believe we can show the Scripture means. What we presented was what we understand to be a whole picture of the meaning of the prophecy from Daniel 7-9, and portions of the book of Revelation. Understanding the prophecy will bring together Catholics, Protestants, and "Jews," for a house divided against itself can not stand. If we look at it in "small bites,"we can more easily understand and assimilate it. If there are errors, then lets bring them to light with Scripture.

In the name of the Lord Jesus,.....take care, and may GOD bless
 
No we do not hate Catholics. We were only sharing what we believe we can show the Scripture means. What we presented was what we understand to be a whole picture of the meaning of the prophecy from Daniel 7-9, and portions of the book of Revelation. Understanding the prophecy will bring together Catholics, Protestants, and "Jews," for a house divided against itself can not stand. If we look at it in "small bites,"we can more easily understand and assimilate it. If there are errors, then lets bring them to light with Scripture.

In the name of the Lord Jesus,.....take care, and may GOD bless
No, what was being said was not interpreting . It was trying to fit pieces to belittle another church.

Basically, a view to fit a philosophy.

Sort of like what i was saying in another place, how pastors and individual's will take pieces of scripture to fit thier needs .

As an example . Many will tell you, we do not live in old testiment times . Yet, those same people will use things like tithing with the excuse it is ordained by God . They conveniently leave out the part of scripture which tells us God set up tithing in the Old Testiment for the Jews as they were so stubborn.
 
No we do not hate Catholics. We were only sharing what we believe we can show the Scripture means. What we presented was what we understand to be a whole picture of the meaning of the prophecy from Daniel 7-9, and portions of the book of Revelation. Understanding the prophecy will bring together Catholics, Protestants, and "Jews," for a house divided against itself can not stand. If we look at it in "small bites,"we can more easily understand and assimilate it. If there are errors, then lets bring them to light with Scripture.

In the name of the Lord Jesus,.....take care, and may GOD bless
But you are correct that the Protestants, Catholics , Jews , Muslims and many others will come together in one banner. Not as the One World Church, although the devil is building his church as we speak, and it will also have members from all religions as well. The only difference, Ours will be one in Jesus , where thiers will be one in " humanity " at first, then to the anti-Christ.
 
As i have said before, preachers, individuals, teachers and priests must not teach a message of hate, but one of forgiveness, compassion, love of our brothers and sisters, even to the Muslims.

If you are going to claim to be Christians, then act like it.

It will not go well for anyone who claims authority, especially to prophets. If your messages are about hate and division of Gods people.

I can assure you, God's Judgement looms close. I am 63 this year, and it will happen during my lifetime - Revelations will.
 
What people dont understand about Martin Luther, at least many catholics, he was right on many arguements he nailed on the church doors. What many protestants are not taught, he never ment for the church to split, and he himself was a priest. So at least for what the catholic church was really all about ( the heart of the church ) is also something he believed in.
But scripture does teach Protestants to split from the Catholic Church, regardless of not being taught by Luther or any one else.

2 Corinthians 6:.14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? 15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? 16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you. 18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

Turning communion into a "holy communion" by doing it in more than in remembrance of Him, by believing His Presence is in the bread and the wine thus committing idolatry, 1 Corinthians 10:14-23 Certainly making the blood of the Covenant to be on par with the blood of goats & bulls that it bears repeating by making His one time sacrifice for sins "present" again to receive again is no different than sacrificing Him all over again on the cross although the Catholics deny that latter conclusion to that misapplication, but they are still His for why God will have vengeance on His people for doing that. Hebrews 10:1-31 Definitely see the need to withdraw here.

2 Thessalonians 3:1 Finally, brethren, pray for us, that the word of the Lord may have free course, and be glorified, even as it is with you: 2 And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all men have not faith. 3 But the Lord is faithful, who shall stablish you, and keep you from evil. 4 And we have confidence in the Lord touching you, that ye both do and will do the things which we command you. 5 And the Lord direct your hearts into the love of God, and into the patient waiting for Christ. 6 Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us. 7 For yourselves know how ye ought to follow us: for we behaved not ourselves disorderly among you;.......

14 And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed. 15 Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.
In many ways, it is like America, the USA. i really beleave in this country, and what the For-Fathers ( signers of the Declaration of Independence) stood for.
Yet as it seems today, via our government officials, you would never know it. Unless you dig
The end is coming as it approaches the elites' goals for a New World Order now that the NSA is tasked for population control and the F.B.I to arrest parents that speak out against school's curriculum that have children readings books about sexual immorality like a boy giving oral sex to an adult, but these things are happening because we are "occupied" by the NWO now. They want to provoke Americans to attack our government by their rights to the second amendment. Why else would Biden have tax payers pay for abortions overseas? But thanks to God, their attempt to provoke the Catholics to riot failed even though a public announcement of the Catholic Church withholding the Eucharist from Biden was announced and Biden was not troubled by this at all.

As the elites are drawing their nets in America, having control of the media & the internet, God will be coming soon to judge His House first and those not found abiding in him, will be excommunicated from the Marriage Supper above, left behind to die, but their spirits will be with the Lord in Heaven to await for their resurrection after the great tribulation whereas those abiding in him, will be delivered out of that net while the elites in America will fall into it when one third of the earth gets burned up ( Revelation 8:7 ), hence the entire western hemisphere, after the rapture event which will set the stage for the rest of the world for the mark of the beast system to buy & sell in order to survive in this New World Order.

Biden & the other elites will be disappointed to see that America will not be the nation to lead in the coming New World Order.

Psalm 141:1Lord, I cry unto thee: make haste unto me; give ear unto my voice, when I cry unto thee. 2 Let my prayer be set forth before thee as incense; and the lifting up of my hands as the evening sacrifice. 3 Set a watch, O Lord, before my mouth; keep the door of my lips. 4 Incline not my heart to any evil thing, to practise wicked works with men that work iniquity: and let me not eat of their dainties. 5 Let the righteous smite me; it shall be a kindness: and let him reprove me; it shall be an excellent oil, which shall not break my head: for yet my prayer also shall be in their calamities. 6 When their judges are overthrown in stony places, they shall hear my words; for they are sweet. 7 Our bones are scattered at the grave's mouth, as when one cutteth and cleaveth wood upon the earth. 8 But mine eyes are unto thee, O God the Lord: in thee is my trust; leave not my soul destitute. 9 Keep me from the snares which they have laid for me, and the gins of the workers of iniquity. 10 Let the wicked fall into their own nets, whilst that I withal escape.
 
But scripture does teach Protestants to split from the Catholic Church, regardless of not being taught by Luther or any one else.

2 Corinthians 6:.14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? 15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? 16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you. 18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

Turning communion into a "holy communion" by doing it in more than in remembrance of Him, by believing His Presence is in the bread and the wine thus committing idolatry, 1 Corinthians 10:14-23 Certainly making the blood of the Covenant to be on par with the blood of goats & bulls that it bears repeating by making His one time sacrifice for sins "present" again to receive again is no different than sacrificing Him all over again on the cross although the Catholics deny that latter conclusion to that misapplication, but they are still His for why God will have vengeance on His people for doing that. Hebrews 10:1-31 Definitely see the need to withdraw here.

2 Thessalonians 3:1 Finally, brethren, pray for us, that the word of the Lord may have free course, and be glorified, even as it is with you: 2 And that we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men: for all men have not faith. 3 But the Lord is faithful, who shall stablish you, and keep you from evil. 4 And we have confidence in the Lord touching you, that ye both do and will do the things which we command you. 5 And the Lord direct your hearts into the love of God, and into the patient waiting for Christ. 6 Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us. 7 For yourselves know how ye ought to follow us: for we behaved not ourselves disorderly among you;.......

14 And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed. 15 Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.

The end is coming as it approaches the elites' goals for a New World Order now that the NSA is tasked for population control and the F.B.I to arrest parents that speak out against school's curriculum that have children readings books about sexual immorality like a boy giving oral sex to an adult, but these things are happening because we are "occupied" by the NWO now. They want to provoke Americans to attack our government by their rights to the second amendment. Why else would Biden have tax payers pay for abortions overseas? But thanks to God, their attempt to provoke the Catholics to riot failed even though a public announcement of the Catholic Church withholding the Eucharist from Biden was announced and Biden was not troubled by this at all.

As the elites are drawing their nets in America, having control of the media & the internet, God will be coming soon to judge His House first and those not found abiding in him, will be excommunicated from the Marriage Supper above, left behind to die, but their spirits will be with the Lord in Heaven to await for their resurrection after the great tribulation whereas those abiding in him, will be delivered out of that net while the elites in America will fall into it when one third of the earth gets burned up ( Revelation 8:7 ), hence the entire western hemisphere, after the rapture event which will set the stage for the rest of the world for the mark of the beast system to buy & sell in order to survive in this New World Order.

Biden & the other elites will be disappointed to see that America will not be the nation to lead in the coming New World Order.

Psalm 141:1Lord, I cry unto thee: make haste unto me; give ear unto my voice, when I cry unto thee. 2 Let my prayer be set forth before thee as incense; and the lifting up of my hands as the evening sacrifice. 3 Set a watch, O Lord, before my mouth; keep the door of my lips. 4 Incline not my heart to any evil thing, to practise wicked works with men that work iniquity: and let me not eat of their dainties. 5 Let the righteous smite me; it shall be a kindness: and let him reprove me; it shall be an excellent oil, which shall not break my head: for yet my prayer also shall be in their calamities. 6 When their judges are overthrown in stony places, they shall hear my words; for they are sweet. 7 Our bones are scattered at the grave's mouth, as when one cutteth and cleaveth wood upon the earth. 8 But mine eyes are unto thee, O God the Lord: in thee is my trust; leave not my soul destitute. 9 Keep me from the snares which they have laid for me, and the gins of the workers of iniquity. 10 Let the wicked fall into their own nets, whilst that I withal escape.
Lol Christians are not going anywhere , you will stick it out with everyone else and walk through all the poop of the anti Christ.

You cant see the truth because of the great delusion.

And when will the raputure happen , before revelations ? Well it is already happening. It already began .

So at what point will you acknowledge the truth. The 6th seal , maybe while the Two Witnesses walk in Jerusalem. Oh i know , when it really does occur, at Jesus return
 
Lol Christians are not going anywhere , you will stick it out with everyone else and walk through all the poop of the anti Christ.

You cant see the truth because of the great delusion.

And when will the raputure happen , before revelations ? Well it is already happening. It already began .

So at what point will you acknowledge the truth. The 6th seal , maybe while the Two Witnesses walk in Jerusalem. Oh i know , when it really does occur, at Jesus return
The great delusion spoken of in 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12 is the lie that one can receive the Holy Ghost "again" after a sign apart from salvation. Paul reminds us of the tradition taught of us in exposing that lie that at the calling of the gospel was when we had received the sanctification of the Spirit & the belief of the truth thus a no other time will a saved believer be receiving the Holy Spirit again per 2 Thessalonians 2:13-15

This falling away from the faith is happening now 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3 per slain in the spirit, holy laughter movement, Pensacola Outpouring, & Toronto's Blessings and even Ernest Angeley's Healing Crusade as he announced when the Holy Spirit will fall on already saved believers in bringing about healing and miracles, causing them to fall backwards for that supposed "effect". Matthew 7:21-27 So strive ye to enter through that straight gate by keeping your eyes only on the Son in worship ( Luke 13:24-30 ) if you wish to come to the Father in honoring Him in worship John 14:6 & John 5:22-23 because the Son is Whom the Holy Spirit in us is testifying of in seeking the glory of & that has to include worship John 15:26-27 & John 16:14 as that is the mind of Christ we are to have in worship ( Philippians 2:5-13 ) for why the Holy Spirit would never lead saved believers to honor Himself in worship in seeking His own glory.

If churches and believes heed His warning not to climb up any other way in approaching God the Father in worship, other than by the only way of the Son, they could avoid the falling away from the faith since the real indwelling holy Ghost will always keep the spotlight on the Son whereas the spirits of the antichrist would take it off of the Son in worship with their visitations of signs & lying wonders.

That s why God is judging His House first at the pre great tribulation rapture event 1 Peter 4:17 for why those not found abiding in Him, will be cast into the bed of the coming great tribulation; Revelation 2:18-25

The error is believing that every saved believer will be raptured, but no. Luke 12:40-49 & John 15:1-8 & 1 Corinthians 9:24-27 Jesus & Paul both says the consequence for not abiding in Him when the Bridegroom comes.

But I can rest in Him that He will do a good job keeping the souls of His saints that gets left behind that will suffer the fire coming on a third of the earth and the coming great tribulation as a result..

1 Peter 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? 18 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear? 19 Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.

2 Corinthians 5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:) 8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord. 9 Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him. 10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. 11 Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.

Trust the Lord Jesus Christ to have you ready & willing to go because He is coming as the Bridegroom first & then at the end of the great tribulation, He will be coming back with those saints to establish His reign on earth as the King of kings.
 
As i have said before, preachers, individuals, teachers and priests must not teach a message of hate, but one of forgiveness, compassion, love of our brothers and sisters, even to the Muslims.

If you are going to claim to be Christians, then act like it.

It will not go well for anyone who claims authority, especially to prophets. If your messages are about hate and division of Gods people.

I can assure you, God's Judgement looms close. I am 63 this year, and it will happen during my lifetime - Revelations will.

lol - says one who claims to be one of the Golden Candlestick/ Two Witnesses! .... no “claiming of authority” there, eh Bill?

You simply don’t know what you are talking about.
 
lol - says one who claims to be one of the Golden Candlestick/ Two Witnesses! .... no “claiming of authority” there, eh Bill?

You simply don’t know what you are talking about.
Do i teach a message of hate ? Or of God's wrath to come on the ungodly, yes the ungodly, those who continue to teach hate, and then say " i am a Christian "

They will scream on the mountain tops, Jesus is my Lord and Saviour. But the Father will say, away from me.

Why, because they have forgotten the Lords Prayer

"Forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us."
 
How can we learn if our mind is closed to considering anything other than what we believe to be and defend is truth, especially if we judge others as hating us.

We are not to judge, lest we be judged. Only GOD truly knows the heart of anyone. Why try to share to study is we are condemned for merely trying?

Are believers afraid to see something that might not agree with what they have been raised to believe is truth? Are they afraid their theology might be in error?

Take care, and may GOD bless,..........
 
How can we learn if our mind is closed to considering anything other than what we believe to be and defend is truth, especially if we judge others as hating us.

We are not to judge, lest we be judged. Only GOD truly knows the heart of anyone. Why try to share to study is we are condemned for merely trying?

Are believers afraid to see something that might not agree with what they have been raised to believe is truth? Are they afraid their theology might be in error?

Take care, and may GOD bless,..........
@God's Truth @AnneOminous @Bill

1 Corinthians 13:9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. 11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. 13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

Galatians 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 15 But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another. 16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

Galatians 6:1Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted. 2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.

2 Timothy 2:24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, 25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; 26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

I trust Jesus Christ to help me to do this since it is on him to cause the increase in any discussion.

1 Corinthians 3:5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man? 6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase. 7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.
 
How can we learn if our mind is closed to considering anything other than what we believe to be and defend is truth, especially if we judge others as hating us.

We are not to judge, lest we be judged. Only GOD truly knows the heart of anyone. Why try to share to study is we are condemned for merely trying?

Are believers afraid to see something that might not agree with what they have been raised to believe is truth? Are they afraid their theology might be in error?

Take care, and may GOD bless,..........
Excellent post
 
So often many are carried away with reading one line or one sentance that they miss a larger point that is being made.

In understanding how to go about using philosophy, you set a thought in the middle , then you try looking at it from every angle, and not just from the same distance.

This is also true when studying scripture, yet scripture is even more. As there are not only maturity levels ( new christians versus older christians ) but there are other things to consider . Reading without having the Gift of the Holy Spirit and reading with the Holy Spirit. As there is a spiritual comprehension as well
 
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