WHO sent Jesus?
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God the Father
Curtis
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Did God the Father ever call God the Son God?
Daring
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Translate?
Yes, only begotten from a Father, making Him the Son of God.
Yes or No?
Curtis
Loyal
Heb 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
Heb 1:7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
Heb 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
God the Father called His Son God!! can not get any plainer than that.
Daring
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True with your slanted translation!
Was God first begotten?
Why are the angels told to worship 'Him', since 'He' was already God- and WHO told them!
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
Daring
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The better question is how was the Son begotten, if He was not created?
We have begotten children, say like a daughter, but we are not their creators though they are of us.
The difference being that we ourselves were begotten, through to Adam who was created, but not begotten.
While God the Father was/is/shall be, the Alpha/Omega, as Jesus being 100% Man, as the 2nd Adam, was also begotten of God prior to His manifestation as Jesus making Him eternally the Son of God, not a created being, for He was/is/shall be always of the same essence as God the God the Father.
Keeping in mind "Hierarchy", and what is a characteristic of Jesus, that we as children of God through Christ Jesus are to be? Obedient. But, not a forced obedience's, but willingly. Which is why you have God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, who is the same essence of both the Father and Son and how we have God the three persons. It's probably a rather oversimplification, because the reality must have been so much more and those with greater words than I have, might be able to explain it much better, but there you have it, as I understand it, and have been given to understand. \o/
With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
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Daring
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Since the Trio (heh!) are ONE- this will apply to ALL 3 of them!
So, how was God (the Trinity) BEGOTTEN?
That just shows you don't or do not want to understand what is being said.
Just to have fun (heh), how was Jesus begotten pre-manifestation?
Daring
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You mean begotten before all ages?
Daring
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If you SAY so!
Well you did say "No- according to the CLAIM."
So, what was the claim you were referencing?
Daring
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Ex 23:20- See, I am sending an angel ahead of you to guard you along the way and to bring you to the place I have prepared.
21- Pay attention to him and listen to what he says. Do not rebel against him; he will not forgive your rebellion, since my Name is in him.
22- If you listen carefully to what he says and do all that I say, I will be an enemy to your enemies and will oppose those who oppose you.
Note- Remember:
1 Cor 10:1- For I do not want you to be ignorant of the fact, brothers and sisters, that our ancestors were all under the cloud
and that they all passed through the sea.
2- They were all baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea.
3- They all ate the same spiritual food 4 and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ.
5 Nevertheless, God was not pleased with most of them; their bodies were scattered in the wilderness.)
Jesus was that Angel- God's Ultimate Messenger!
21- Pay attention to him and listen to what he says. Do not rebel against him; he will not forgive your rebellion, since my Name is in him.
22- If you listen carefully to what he says and do all that I say, I will be an enemy to your enemies and will oppose those who oppose you.
Note- Remember:
1 Cor 10:1- For I do not want you to be ignorant of the fact, brothers and sisters, that our ancestors were all under the cloud
and that they all passed through the sea.
2- They were all baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea.
3- They all ate the same spiritual food 4 and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ.
5 Nevertheless, God was not pleased with most of them; their bodies were scattered in the wilderness.)
Jesus was that Angel- God's Ultimate Messenger!
Curtis
Loyal
Was God the Father begotten?
Has God the Father always been a Father?
When was God the Father's name changed to Father?
Can you be a Father without having a Son?
Can a Son be called a Son without having a Father?
When did God the Father and God the Son come into existence?
Who created them?
Jesus, the Son of God, has been in existence the same amount of time (eternity) as Good the Father.