Why does God send people to hell?

[Corn]

Only the dying get the tox report at Autopsy. A dying Veteran paid my fees before he died from the same thing. I am alive because someone died to give me life. I found my own way. No one decides for you. This is MY way. Do it Your Way.
We are only responsible for our own decisions.
My father told.me...
Your beliefs are up to you.
You can believe anything you want to, even if it's wrong, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
I believe my father's way. I chose to believe it. Everyone has Free Choice.
Follow your own heart.

 

[Christ4Ever]

Only the dying get the tox report at Autopsy. A dying Veteran paid my fees before he died from the same thing. I am alive because someone died to give me life. I found my own way. No one decides for you. This is MY way. Do it Your Way.
We are only responsible for our own decisions.
My father told.me...
Your beliefs are up to you.
You can believe anything you want to, even if it's wrong, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
I believe my father's way. I chose to believe it. Everyone has Free Choice.
Follow your own heart.

Dear John,
There are beliefs that transcends individual knowledge that is only received through God. Every created thing gives evidence of His existence. Man, who is created in the image of God. We bare witness to His existence, even if humanity blindly does not acknowledge Him. You have confirmed part of this through what you have found that is happening in nature which has been cursed through the sin of man.

However, in believing in the Father, you must also believe in Him, His Son, Jesus Christ as well. For it has been made clear that without the Son, you will never come to the Father, (John 14:6) though you may believe to acknowledge His existence because only a fool does not, and you are no fool John. However, because many in denying the Son, also without realizing it deny God the Father whom He has sent (John 3:18).

It seems you've taken one step, and have stopped there, instead of coming fully to the Son, by the way the Father has set to be saved from the very thing we are all guilty of, which is sin (Acts 4:12).

I'm glad you mentioned 1 Corinthians 13, which many call the "Love Chapter", but as you continue to read this book, you will find that it also focuses on confirming Jesus, and His resurrection. Without which, it would all been seen as just another wise man killed, by man. The focus from beginning to end, OT/NT, has been about Jesus. From the cursing of the earth to a new one, we see it, and it breaks our hearts for the cause of it. Still God is love, but also Holy, Just, and so much more, and because of this He made a way through His Son Jesus to balance all accounts if you would let Him.

God has given you purpose and the ability to reach out to others to help them in ways that few if any others are willing to do. Just don't neglect His Son Jesus, who paid the ultimate sacrifice for you. (Luke 9:25)

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
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[Corn]

That is one way to think .
But im not here to argue.
If this was Star wars, there's always the ones sitting and making the rules while others go out in the world. Things don't always go perfect but everyone tries to do what is right.
I did not want you to judge me.
I beleive that no matter who you are or what you believe that love is the way I will FOLLOW LOVE Alwand to the fullest of my abilities.
We all didn't beleive something at one time or another. That's why we are asked ALWAYS TO MOVE WITH LOVE AND FORGIVENESS AND JUDGE NOONE.
THIS IS THE WAY
I apologize if I don't meet your full expectations. I wasn't working to please anyone here on earth or Any book. I follow my heart and the connection that I feel in my heart.
I understand what I can, and if I'm not sure, I wait and it will be revealed to me and I will accept.
I didn't comment because I have a few details that I've not felt at ease to share. It doesn't mean that I believe or don't believe anything.. but mostly I did want to argue? As I respect that you have your own beliefs and who am I to disrespect you because you may believe differently than me,.
You've not walked in my shoes and I've not walked in yours. But it looks like we both are believers???
I've nearly died for my beliefs 3.times in theast 10 years for speaking out.
Im willing to die for you.

 

[Corn]

The shooting in Minnesota was for my address. Then I was then toxed..because
I took down a government entity for all people.
I just sued for $2mullion for all those in Arizona except me. I don't need money.
I asked my AG to share all of my proof with ALL AG'S SO THAT ALL PEOPLE GET REFUNDED, AS IVE PROVE WHY WERE DYING.
I WOULD POST MY MAIL SHOWING MINNESOTA WANTING ME TO SETTLE, but I tried and can't see how. I'm not good at this phone.
I don't want riches.
I want people to stop dying.
I work on it every day.

Wherever i live, my AG knows who I am.
I'm fighting for ALL. I'm not even close to perfect.

I'll try to post a free copy here for all to have a free copy, as I've asked for a way to provide free copies for all who cannot afford one..

 

[Corn]

In Minnesota, I worked for a church. I saw how they laundered money. It was a Tycoon with the largest business around the area and he made other tycoons and hid their money. I exposed it and moved here. Then I was toxed. After the shooting, I was informed that my families private Info was sold.
I came here and proved Genocide as I saw how everything happened and I reported daily communications with EPA who said that they weren't doing such during covid...
Before that... a Federal case I. WYOMING that affected everyone in the US.
The promised reward was $20 million. I didn't take it.
I can't stand that these things happen but i see it, and Others do not. So I feel that I must be the one and I just do it.
I love people. I try not to even let them know because it's horrible to think that these things even go on.
But if I see wrong, I stand up and fight.
Not saying you're wrong...I'm just saying that I don't have time to debate that one right now or think so deep at this time.
I live thinking and I appreciate people that think deep.
But when I get too deep, I worry and I stop working to save people
I guess I feel that God must just have my back.

 

[Corn]

My doctor that was involved and I got bad medication and bad treatment. I quit going to doctors. He lives in Dubai. They can't extradite him. Look it up...
Dr. Askari, Prescott Arizona. He has a brother still here, a cardiologist. He was vacationing with the AG Brnovich, the very one I was reporting to at that time.

 

[Christ4Ever]

That is one way to think .
But im not here to argue.
If this was Star wars, there's always the ones sitting and making the rules while others go out in the world. Things don't always go perfect but everyone tries to do what is right.
I did not want you to judge me.
I beleive that no matter who you are or what you believe that love is the way I will FOLLOW LOVE Alwand to the fullest of my abilities.
We all didn't beleive something at one time or another. That's why we are asked ALWAYS TO MOVE WITH LOVE AND FORGIVENESS AND JUDGE NOONE.
THIS IS THE WAY
I apologize if I don't meet your full expectations. I wasn't working to please anyone here on earth or Any book. I follow my heart and the connection that I feel in my heart.
I understand what I can, and if I'm not sure, I wait and it will be revealed to me and I will accept.
I didn't comment because I have a few details that I've not felt at ease to share. It doesn't mean that I believe or don't believe anything.. but mostly I did want to argue? As I respect that you have your own beliefs and who am I to disrespect you because you may believe differently than me,.
You've not walked in my shoes and I've not walked in yours. But it looks like we both are believers???
I've nearly died for my beliefs 3.times in theast 10 years for speaking out.
Im willing to die for you.

Dear John, it is not me who presents this but God through His Son Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. I'm not arguing either, just as I said, presenting, as did every prophet, and of course Apostles who were witnesses of Him, and for Him, in truth, and unto death by the hand of man, themselves.

I'm not judging you, nor setting a standard by which you must abide by. The Gospel is presented, and those who hear will listen or they won't to the Word of God, who is Jesus; God Manifested as man.

That you choose to either believe in Him or not; there is no middle to be found. If there were, would it have necessary for God, to send His Son, to die on the Cross? I'm not telling you to be anything be it a Christian, a Jew, or Muslim, or pick the religion that suits man's fancy. I present you Jesus Crucified, and a Risen Christ.

I am specific to this, because all have a belief, and would consider themselves believers, but when asked who that belief is grounded upon, it is usually someone/something other than Jesus.

For I do not need you to die for me, nor do I have to for you! That is what is so amazing in the knowledge of Christ Jesus! That is one thing that becomes abundantly clear in Him, is that the price has already been paid!!!

By the by, I only know of who you are by what you have presented here on Talk Jesus, for us to know, and no more than that. Only you can say, if you believe in Jesus or not as your Lord and Savior. Which in truth is all that I ask to know of you. If yes, then I rejoice in that knowledge; if no, then I pray that one day it yet may be so. No more no less.

Matthew 11:25-30

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
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<><

 

[Corn]

Dear John, it is not me who presents this but God through His Son Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. I'm not arguing either, just as I said, presenting, as did every prophet, and of course Apostles who were witnesses of Him, and for Him, in truth, and unto death by the hand of man, themselves.

I'm not judging you, nor setting a standard by which you must abide by. The Gospel is presented, and those who hear will listen or they won't to the Word of God, who is Jesus; God Manifested as man.

That you choose to either believe in Him or not; there is no middle to be found. If there were, would it have necessary for God, to send His Son, to die on the Cross? I'm not telling you to be anything be it a Christian, a Jew, or Muslim, or pick the religion that suits man's fancy. I present you Jesus Crucified, and a Risen Christ.

I am specific to this, because all have a belief, and would consider themselves believers, but when asked who that belief is grounded upon, it is usually someone/something other than Jesus.

For I do not need you to die for me, nor do I have to for you! That is what is so amazing in the knowledge of Christ Jesus! That is one thing that becomes abundantly clear in Him, is that the price has already been paid!!!

By the by, I only know of who you are by what you have presented here on Talk Jesus, for us to know, and no more than that. Only you can say, if you believe in Jesus or not as your Lord and Savior. Which in truth is all that I ask to know of you. If yes, then I rejoice in that knowledge; if no, then I pray that one day it yet may be so. No more no less.

Matthew 11:25-30

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
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I do not discuss such with others. It's my personal stuff. I try to be worthy. I've not studied manifestations so I just don't discuss it. My heart is between me and whom I believe on. I'd I must Profess my privates here, I'm done here.

 

[Christ4Ever]

I do not discuss such with others. It's my personal stuff. I try to be worthy. I've not studied manifestations so I just don't discuss it. My heart is between me and whom I believe on. I'd I must Profess my privates here, I'm done here.

Dear John,
You claim to want to save the lives of others, yet you would withhold from them the saving knowledge of Jesus Christ.

Fare you well on your travels, then.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
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[Corn]

Dear John,
You claim to want to save the lives of others, yet you would withhold from them the saving knowledge of Jesus Christ.

Fare you well on your travels, then.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
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<><

Ok. I'm done here.

 

[Christ4Ever]

Ok. I'm done here.

Dear John,
At least twice you have said the above. Be not mistaken, you are welcome here, but as the name of site that you joined goes by "Talk Jesus", know that it's about Him, and to the Glory of God.

We have received many who are not believers here and have shared the Gospel with them. Some have not liked it, which becomes apparent after a time, and what is also apparent is that they are here for their own agenda and challenge the very Gospel we share. So, we present our testimonies, and they choose of their own volition on whether to stay or go.

This is your decision to make, and whether you choose to leave, stay, or even come back, you will be welcomed—hopefully as a Brother in Christ, but welcomed either way. To receive what is offered freely, as what you have been sharing was received. Questioned at times but still received as you communicated it to us here.

So, as I have said before. Fair you well in your travels should you leave. If you stay, I would still ask your stance on Jesus Christ. After all as I've said, this site is called "Talk Jesus".

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
YBIC/Moderator
Nick
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<><

 

[SPUD_GUY32]

The Bible says that God created hell for Satan and the wicked angels who rebelled against Him, but there are people in hell also (Matthew 25:41). Both angelic beings and human beings are in hell for the same reason, sin (Romans 6:23).

Because God is completely righteous and morally perfect (Psalm 18:30), He always does what is right—there is no “darkness” in God, not the smallest speck of imperfection (1 John 1:5). God Himself is the standard for what is right, good, and moral. If it were not for God being the standard of moral perfection, created beings would have nothing to measure themselves against. In other words, if God is perfectly righteous, then anything that falls short of said perfection is sinful, and every human being who has ever lived, since Adam’s fall from grace, has committed sin (Romans 3:23). Because Adam sinned, the entire human race now has a sinful nature (Romans 5:12). But people do not go to hell because of Adam’s sin; they go to hell because of their own sin, which they freely choose (James 1:13–16).

Since God is eternal, immutable, and infinite, and all sins are fundamentally against God, God has decreed the just punishment for sin must also be eternal (Matthew 25:46). There is another aspect to consider, which is that God also created people to live eternally. So when someone commits a sin against another person, the offended person has also been eternally wronged.

God, therefore, has deemed all who commit sin will go to hell because they have failed to meet His righteous standard; they have broken His Law of moral perfection. If God did not send people to hell for breaking His laws, it could be said that God is not just (Psalm 7:11). A good analogy is a court of law with a judge and a lawbreaker. A just judge will always convict the person who has been found guilty. If that judge did not pursue justice for the crime, he would not be a just judge (Deuteronomy 32:4).

However, the good news is that God is also merciful. In His rich mercy, He made a way for sinners to avoid the punishment of hell by trusting in the atoning work of His Son, Jesus Christ (Romans 5:9). For Christians, the penalty of sin has been removed and placed upon Christ on the cross (1 Peter 2:24). Because of the sacrifice of Christ, God is still just—the sin is punished—yet He is also merciful to all who believe.

article: Why does God send people to hell? | GotQuestions.org

What would the theoretical boundaries be between going to heaven and hell. For example what if I did something that could be forgiven does that mean I will be forgiven of all my sins or am I going to Hell?

 

[th1bill]

What would the theoretical boundaries be between going to heaven and hell. For example what if I did something that could be forgiven does that mean I will be forgiven of all my sins or am I going to Hell?

Considering that the only unforgivable sin is to die without the indwelling of Ruah, the Holy Spirit, anything is forgivable before the natural death, accept Yashua as Lord, and you will be filled with Ruah and be saved.

 

[Bill]

The Bible says that God created hell for Satan and the wicked angels who rebelled against Him, but there are people in hell also (Matthew 25:41). Both angelic beings and human beings are in hell for the same reason, sin (Romans 6:23).

Because God is completely righteous and morally perfect (Psalm 18:30), He always does what is right—there is no “darkness” in God, not the smallest speck of imperfection (1 John 1:5). God Himself is the standard for what is right, good, and moral. If it were not for God being the standard of moral perfection, created beings would have nothing to measure themselves against. In other words, if God is perfectly righteous, then anything that falls short of said perfection is sinful, and every human being who has ever lived, since Adam’s fall from grace, has committed sin (Romans 3:23). Because Adam sinned, the entire human race now has a sinful nature (Romans 5:12). But people do not go to hell because of Adam’s sin; they go to hell because of their own sin, which they freely choose (James 1:13–16).

Since God is eternal, immutable, and infinite, and all sins are fundamentally against God, God has decreed the just punishment for sin must also be eternal (Matthew 25:46). There is another aspect to consider, which is that God also created people to live eternally. So when someone commits a sin against another person, the offended person has also been eternally wronged.

God, therefore, has deemed all who commit sin will go to hell because they have failed to meet His righteous standard; they have broken His Law of moral perfection. If God did not send people to hell for breaking His laws, it could be said that God is not just (Psalm 7:11). A good analogy is a court of law with a judge and a lawbreaker. A just judge will always convict the person who has been found guilty. If that judge did not pursue justice for the crime, he would not be a just judge (Deuteronomy 32:4).

However, the good news is that God is also merciful. In His rich mercy, He made a way for sinners to avoid the punishment of hell by trusting in the atoning work of His Son, Jesus Christ (Romans 5:9). For Christians, the penalty of sin has been removed and placed upon Christ on the cross (1 Peter 2:24). Because of the sacrifice of Christ, God is still just—the sin is punished—yet He is also merciful to all who believe.

article: Why does God send people to hell? | GotQuestions.org

May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

God doesn't send people to hell. People send themselves to hell. If you choose to go do good with your life, if you choose to do what the laws require. That is to love your neighbor as yourself. This will prevent you from going to hell. Even if the person doesn't know Jesus in his mind. Because there are people out there who do not know who Jesus is in their head they may have never even heard of Jesus, however they know Jesus in their hearts

And this is talking about what Paul says in scripture in Romans 2:12 through 24
"Sinners who are not subject to the law will perish all the same, without the law Sinners who were under the law will have the law to judge them. It is not listening to the law but keeping it that will make a person wholly in the sight of god. For instance pagans who never heard of the law but are led by reason to do what the law requires may not actually possess the law but they can be said to be the law they can point to the substance of the law engraved on their hearts"

So you can see that they have not confessed Jesus as Lord using their tongues. But they have confessed Jesus as Lord using their hearts.

 

[th1bill]

May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom

God doesn't send people to hell. People send themselves to hell. If you choose to go do good with your life, if you choose to do what the laws require. That is to love your neighbor as yourself. This will prevent you from going to hell. Even if the person doesn't know Jesus in his mind. Because there are people out there who do not know who Jesus is in their head they may have never even heard of Jesus, however they know Jesus in their hearts

And this is talking about what Paul says in scripture in Romans 2:12 through 24
"Sinners who are not subject to the law will perish all the same, without the law Sinners who were under the law will have the law to judge them. It is not listening to the law but keeping it that will make a person wholly in the sight of god. For instance pagans who never heard of the law but are led by reason to do what the law requires may not actually possess the law but they can be said to be the law they can point to the substance of the law engraved on their hearts"
and
So you can see that they have not confessed Jesus as Lord using their tongues. But they have confessed Jesus as Lord using their hearts.

It is well proven that none, save Yashua, can obey the ten laws of Yehovah. But to follow Yashua and to strive to follow Him that is The Law means that person has submitted themselves to His leading and they are saved.

 

[Bill]

It is well proven that none, save Yashua, can obey the ten laws of Yehovah. But to follow Yashua and to strive to follow Him that is The Law means that person has submitted themselves to His leading and they are saved.

May Jesus fill us with his love and wisdom.

Dear bill, has it ever occurred to you that Jesus is the 10 laws?

In the Gospel of John it states. That in the beginning was the Word, the word was with God and the Word was God, and the Word became flesh and dwelt Among Us.

As we see, the Word is Jesus.
Jesus is the same Word that God set in stone for Moses.

 

[KingJ]

@rstrats You asked three very good questions:

1. Why would anyone's will be for torture 24/7 for eternity?
2. Would a person first have to believe in a supreme being? And if they do, what is the person to do since beliefs cannot be consciously chosen?
3. How can you choose to believe something if you already know it's real?

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1. Hell according to scripture is not torture 24/7.

Extreme clarity and honesty is required to resolve this question. No moving goal posts. No changing definitions and meaning. Torture can be placing someone in a brazen bull (10/10) or being forced to listen to an annoying teacher (1/10).

When someone accuses God of the bible of torturing the wicked for all eternity they quote fire, flesh burning, worms eating. screaming, weeping and gnashing of teeth for all eternity. IE All accusers and even many preachers envision 10/10 torture.

Torture at this level is PURE evil. There is no greater evil than 9-10/10 torture.

Many Christians fail at understanding this and completely and utterly misrepresent scripture on the topic.

Without going into too much detail. It is important for us to understand the following items for a more correct picture of hell.

A. People in hell will weep and gnash their teeth because of separation anxiety Luke 13:28.

B. The worm that eats is a personal worm, scripture says ''their worm'', suggesting not actual worms but more a conscience. Supporting this fact is scripture stating that they will not receive a new body. Scripture says we are mind, body and spirit. If those in hell do not receive a new body, then they will remain as only spirit and mind. Much like demons are right now.

C. Fire is the direct punishment for one's sins. It will be an unpleasant experience for your spirit. Scripture uses the word 'agonising' pain, but your spirit will deal with it much better than flesh. It is not correct to imagine flesh burning. Jesus makes this crystal clear in Luke 16:19-31. The rich man in the fire is able to hold a conversation and asks for a drop of water from Abraham's finger on his tongue. That is certainly not what someone in a brazen bull will request. It is a type of harsh and unpleasant punishment that we will all agree with.

D. Scripture is crystal clear that God is just Job 34:12 and that punishment will be according to your sin Rom 2:6. As such we can expect to see people spend sessions in fire according to their sin. You will need an eternal fire in hell as you will not have any repentant sinners. People will go on and on in sin.

E. God is righteous in all His ways Psalm 145:17m with NO exceptions. We can expect many more things in hell than merely what scripture tells us. We see this with Adam and Eve when removed from Eden. Scripture mentions four curses, but yet earth has many niceties even with these curses.

Hell will be terrible, but that is because those there will be evil and they will be surrounded with other evil people, for all eternity. Is God evil for doing this? Keeping them alive? Every evil person would rather be alive than dead. Even in hell.

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2. Every person believes in a supreme being. Only trolls don't. But no, that is not a requirement.

The only requirement according to Jesus, Paul, David, Abraham, Moses and every scripture from verse 1 to verse 31,102 is repentance of sin Luke 5:32, Psalm 51:17.

3. Christian faith, faith to believe A. Jesus is Lord and B. was raised from the dead Rom 10:9 is gifted to those who truthfully repent 1 Cor 12:3, Rom 12:3.

We stay in a state of faith and believing, even though we know God is real, as this is His will. You need to understand that only the 'sight' block is unticked. Therefore our belief / faith in God is exactly the same as everyone's belief / faith in gravity.