Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
Why Jesus could not condemn the Woman who was caught in the very act of adultery?
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Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are
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28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:
In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
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Matt 18
1 In that hour came the disciples unto Jesus, saying, Who then is greatest in the kingdom of heaven? 2 And he called to him a little child, and set him in the midst of them, 3 and said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye turn, and become as little children, ye shall in no wise enter into the kingdom of heaven. 4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
25 He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto eternal life.
20 ... lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven ... 21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
I apologize, PloughBoy, but janetkulabako's message was despicable.
Your question and this thread sure has set me to pondering, though. Thank you for that.
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Sometimes, what some of us try to do is help are brothers and sisters in Christ to interpret things in light of scripture. Because it is so important, to read it properly, if not, you will interpret all scripture with the same patterns. All “Holy Scripture” is there for a certain meaning for those who are in Christ Jesus. It’s main purpose is the “manifestation. of God’s Grace and mercy “through His Son Jesus Christ” and we see that! Because there is none righteous no not one. God has bless you to, ponder and see, The “Advocate “ at work. !
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I think He didn't condemned her only and purely for mercy. For surely she sinned and deserved that punishment as us aswell, because in some or many points we've broken the law. But as Jesus is the mercy of God Himself, He gave us grace, gave us mercy without any reason or righteous deed that we've committed. The only thing that we can think or speculate is that she probably was disposed to receive what righteously deserved. She had that attitude as the robber next to Jesus' cross. " And we indeed justly, for we receive the due reward of our deeds, but this man has done nothing wrong. " Luke 23:41
He is mercy, that mercy that after receiving it we are so happy and so relieved that we don't think to go back to sin anymore ( it is possible if we become hard again ), that mercy that makes us grateful. She was actually so surprised by the fact that she was forgiven, she didn't expect it. Today many or even me can take His forgiveness for something granted. But isn't so. His forgiveness, grace should leave us with our mouths open wondering how is it possible for Him to have a mercy for such a sinner. And we mustn't have done necessarily a great sin so that we can see ourselves as great sinners or not deserving. We can feel such just by acknowledging and letting Him work in our lifes to show us our condition. I am not trying to condemn, I am just trying to portray how was she feeling and how each sinner should feel. And we the people who have walked with Him the same some times. Jesus is the mercy of God. The same mercy through which the world will be judged one day. John 5:22, Revelation 19:11 Because the Father will judge the world one day through Jesus. Everything was made through Him, for Him and by Him. So it is something so great. Think that she was faced with the condemnation, seeing the people with stones in their hands and nothing could have stopped them, but Jesus with His authority over the law, that we mustn't forget was accomplished through His sacrifice on the cross, He took the punishment deserved by us. And in this someone enters when he truly believes and acknowledges his condition. She had to face the condemnation and the law, so that she can see her condition. And that's what the law is for. To show us. That's why Jesus waited for a while and left them to accuse her. The law is in a way our tutor to bring us to Christ. Galatians 3:24 But the best of all is His grace that obviously works with the law, but triumphs over.
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Ivan, many of our brothers and sisters always miss this part of “Holy Scripture” Jesus did not live or walk in the “ New Testament”. [The New Covenant Era”]. This is a hard clear truth, that Sunday schoolers find hard to see. Jesus had to obey the Law of God. He had to fulfilled the law that no man could do. He had to be the perfect sacrifice without spot or wrinkle. Jesus was also a “Advocate”! The LAW was still in effect! Through out the New Testament writings of the Gospels , Jesus has been trying to show people the real interpretation of some real aspects of the law, that the religious leaders has been abusing, by really not “Knowing “Holy Scripture”. The woman caught in the very act, is a prime example of what He was trying to teach them, what ever he wrote on the ground, convicted them, and their “ conscience” convicted them, and one by one they walked away. That is the work of the Holy Spirit. And I will “speculate” here! All , I do believe, all, the woman and her accusers became disciples of Jesus Christ. And maybe one day I will have a conversation will those accusers and ask them, what did Jesus write down there in the dirt, 
Shalom!
Shalom!What do you mean that Jesus Christ did not live or walk in the New Testament?! What do you think the 4 Gospels are about?!
He was 'here' to show us to the Father, His Father, in heaven. The miracles He performed.
There's really no reason To speculate That. Of course, everyone is free to speculate anything they want to.
He was 'here' to show us to the Father, His Father, in heaven. The miracles He performed.
There's really no reason To speculate That. Of course, everyone is free to speculate anything they want to.
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16For where there is a testament, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. 17For a testament is in force after men are dead, since it has no power at all while the testator lives. 18Therefore not even the first covenant was dedicated without blood. (Hebrews 9:16-18). Jesus had not died yet in that part of the gospel history.
You're talking about Jesus Christ. It was God who gave the law to Moses in book of Exodus and some again in Leviticus. I've just been reading through the Old and New Testaments again this year.
We do not live under the law -- the law has been replaced by God's grace. The law was given to 'us' to show us that we need a / the Savior. Jesus Christ was born in Matthew 1 and 2. And Luke 2 as we're all familiar with.
Some people still choose to live under the Ten Commandments and obverse the Sabbath. Whether it's due to a belief in 'good works' for salvation? or just a desire to follow those 10 Commandments -- up to the individual.
But our salvation has never depended on following the Ten Commandments.
He Did fulfill the law by becoming the perfect lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world. Up until the Cross -- every year there had to be an offering made to take care of the yearly sins of the people.
We do not live under the law -- the law has been replaced by God's grace. The law was given to 'us' to show us that we need a / the Savior. Jesus Christ was born in Matthew 1 and 2. And Luke 2 as we're all familiar with.
Some people still choose to live under the Ten Commandments and obverse the Sabbath. Whether it's due to a belief in 'good works' for salvation? or just a desire to follow those 10 Commandments -- up to the individual.
But our salvation has never depended on following the Ten Commandments.
He Did fulfill the law by becoming the perfect lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world. Up until the Cross -- every year there had to be an offering made to take care of the yearly sins of the people.
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When I was referring to the law, I was speaking about 0T law all 610 laws which include the 10 commandments. The 10 commandment still remains in The New Covenant. [New Testament]. Moral law is still into effect says Jesus. But the old law was abolish when Jesus died, then the “new covenant “ [New Testament] came into effect. New Era.
But the old law was abolish when Jesus died, then the “new covenant “ [New Testament] came into effect. New Era.Samson2020
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2 Co 5:19 "to wit GOD WAS IN CHRIST, reconciling the world unto himself, NOT IMPUTING THEIR TRESPASSES UNTO THEM; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation."
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I'd missed the post about following All the 600 + levitical laws Plus the 10 commandments. Back in that day -- cleanliness / morals were not all that great. Well -- they aren't Now, either. There weren't nearly the number of people around then as there are now so the people Could separate themselves as needed. Diseases that were common back then are all but gone now due to more modern medicine and cleanliness practiced. 'They' were people just like you and I who lived back in those Biblical days, Part of Leviticus was telling 'us' who we could and could Not have sexual relationships with. Maybe we Should pay more attention to that. Some of the activities going on 'behind closed doors' Probably / maybe Shouldn't be.
I've Also been noticing via FaceBook and media -- the homeless population is growing. Then again, that's bound to happen -- with all the forest fires that burn entire communities And the severe storms that rip through communities. And those with mental illnesses who don't / can't live in normal populations. Homeless populations breed health / sanitation problems.
Yes, we Are Christ's ambassadors -- and, yes, to the rest of it, too.
Maybe 'we' aren't being caught in the 'very act of' but what Are we doing that we shouldn't be doing.
Will stop 'preaching'
I've Also been noticing via FaceBook and media -- the homeless population is growing. Then again, that's bound to happen -- with all the forest fires that burn entire communities And the severe storms that rip through communities. And those with mental illnesses who don't / can't live in normal populations. Homeless populations breed health / sanitation problems.
Yes, we Are Christ's ambassadors -- and, yes, to the rest of it, too.
Maybe 'we' aren't being caught in the 'very act of' but what Are we doing that we shouldn't be doing.
Will stop 'preaching'
