Why No One Can Hear the Word of God Any More

[Samson2020]

We have freewill or a hardening wouldn't be necessary.

??????

See that, you say things like that and it has nothing to do with what we are talking about,

It shows that free will is not allowed while chosen to be a vessel to dishonor.

 

[GodB4Us]

Scripture to support that please.

Again scripture to support. As it sounds like your espousing a pre trib rapture event (and of who), then a post trib resurrection of saints? Bible says that we who are alive shall not prevent those that died, and the dead will not prevent us and that we are all gathered at the, basic, same time.As the dead are raised first then we all meet Him in the air and corruption puts on incorruption.

Supporting scripture????

Well, there are plenty of scripture.

If you consider how the end of the great tribulation will be like; the world's armies marching unto Jerusalem, it can hardly be like a thief in the night. Zechariah 14:1-5 Not to mention that during the great tribulation, the beast is waging war on the saints to kill with the sword and by hunger because the saints will not take the mark of the beast to buy & sell to survive in that New World Order just to eat,

Revelation 6:7 And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.
8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.
9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

Then how can Jesus come as a thief in the night when all His warnings are for the saints in how they are living now like as in the days of Noah where the saints would be tempted to go back to their house to get their treasures or whatever as if they can take it with them for why Jesus reminded believers of Lot's wife.

Luke 17:26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
31 In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back.
32 Remember Lot's wife.
33 Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.
34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

Then you have this carefree picture of saints for why He is warning them to be ready or else.

Luke 21:33 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.
34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.
35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.
36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

Really think Jesus is painting a picture for how saints will be living and caught unaware in a time before He comes as the King of kings at the end of the great tribulation??

Look at the excuses of the saints for preferring their lives on earth than to go to the King's Supper above.

Luke 14:15 And when one of them that sat at meat with him heard these things, he said unto him, Blessed is he that shall eat bread in the kingdom of God.
16 Then said he unto him, A certain man made a great supper, and bade many:
17 And sent his servant at supper time to say to them that were bidden, Come; for all things are now ready.
18 And they all with one consent began to make excuse. The first said unto him, I have bought a piece of ground, and I must needs go and see it: I pray thee have me excused.
19 And another said, I have bought five yoke of oxen, and I go to prove them: I pray thee have me excused.
20 And another said, I have married a wife, and therefore I cannot come.
21 So that servant came, and shewed his lord these things. Then the master of the house being angry said to his servant, Go out quickly into the streets and lanes of the city, and bring in hither the poor, and the maimed, and the halt, and the blind.
22 And the servant said, Lord, it is done as thou hast commanded, and yet there is room.
23 And the lord said unto the servant, Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled.
24 For I say unto you, That none of those men which were bidden shall taste of my supper.

That's the reason why Jesus referred to Lot's wife in Luke 17:32 because saints can be ensnared by the cares of this life to love it more than to leave it. No saint can be ensnared by the cares of this life at the end of the great tribulation.

That is why Jesus 's warning applies to us now in the latter days we are living in when the falling away from the faith is to happen first for why He will come to judge His House first as the Bridegroom before He comes at the end of the great tribulation as the King of kings.

1 Peter 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?
18 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?
19 Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.

If you can explain that picture Jesus is painting as still applying to the end of that great tribulation, be my guest, but I do not see how it can apply at His coming as the King of kings.

 

[Samson2020]

Well, there are plenty of scripture.

If you consider how the end of the great tribulation will be like; the world's armies marching unto Jerusalem, it can hardly be like a thief in the night. Zechariah 14:1-5 Not to mention that during the great tribulation, the beast is waging war on the saints to kill with the sword and by hunger because the saints will not take the mark of the beast to buy & sell to survive in that New World Order just to eat,

Revelation 6:7 And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.
8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.
9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

Then how can Jesus come as a thief in the night when all His warnings are for the saints in how they are living now like as in the days of Noah where the saints would be tempted to go back to their house to get their treasures or whatever as if they can take it with them for why Jesus reminded believers of Lot's wife.

Luke 17:26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
31 In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back.
32 Remember Lot's wife.
33 Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.
34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

Then you have this carefree picture of saints for why He is warning them to be ready or else.

Luke 21:33 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.
34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.
35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.
36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

Really think Jesus is painting a picture for how saints will be living and caught unaware in a time before He comes as the King of kings at the end of the great tribulation??

Look at the excuses of the saints for preferring their lives on earth than to go to the King's Supper above.

Luke 14:15 And when one of them that sat at meat with him heard these things, he said unto him, Blessed is he that shall eat bread in the kingdom of God.
16 Then said he unto him, A certain man made a great supper, and bade many:
17 And sent his servant at supper time to say to them that were bidden, Come; for all things are now ready.
18 And they all with one consent began to make excuse. The first said unto him, I have bought a piece of ground, and I must needs go and see it: I pray thee have me excused.
19 And another said, I have bought five yoke of oxen, and I go to prove them: I pray thee have me excused.
20 And another said, I have married a wife, and therefore I cannot come.
21 So that servant came, and shewed his lord these things. Then the master of the house being angry said to his servant, Go out quickly into the streets and lanes of the city, and bring in hither the poor, and the maimed, and the halt, and the blind.
22 And the servant said, Lord, it is done as thou hast commanded, and yet there is room.
23 And the lord said unto the servant, Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled.
24 For I say unto you, That none of those men which were bidden shall taste of my supper.

That's the reason why Jesus referred to Lot's wife in Luke 17:32 because saints can be ensnared by the cares of this life to love it more than to leave it. No saint can be ensnared by the cares of this life at the end of the great tribulation.

That is why Jesus 's warning applies to us now in the latter days we are living in when the falling away from the faith is to happen first for why He will come to judge His House first as the Bridegroom before He comes at the end of the great tribulation as the King of kings.

1 Peter 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?
18 And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?
19 Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.

If you can explain that picture Jesus is painting as still applying to the end of that great tribulation, be my guest, but I do not see how it can apply at His coming as the King of kings.

Well all I can say to that as an answer to a pre trib rapture and a post trib saint resurrection is it does not explain your first claim at all. We all know there will be a post trib gathering.

If you will look at Matthew 24:29-31 then compare it to the opening of the 5th and 6th seals. Rev 6:9-12 you should see a perfect picture describing the same event. Thus
2 witnesses to the fact there is only 1.
Pay special attention to 6:11 as this is why there is no gathering until AFTER.
And why rapture the dead pre trib as they are free from further evil? And need not come before anyone else, they are just sleeping in their graves.

 

[Samson2020]

Romans 11:23 And if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.

And at some point He will.

There were many Jews who were not cut off, for they are the ones who were water baptized by John and Jesus' disciples.

That baptism was just for remission of sins and had nothing to do with faith in the resurrected Jesus Christ as He hadn't been crucified yet.

That does not mean all the Jews were cut off.

Gal 3:22 But the scripture hath concluded ALL under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
Again there was no resurrection as of yet therefore they had no faith in it, so justification through faith was not established at that time.

John 12:40 "He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, so they can neither see with their eyes, nor understand with their hearts, nor turn--and I would heal them."

Does this sound like free will to you?

Lastyly, could we maybe stick to a single point as I am unsure of the point you are trying to make. Other than saying NO to whatever I say.

 

[Samson2020]

If you can explain that picture Jesus is painting as still applying to the end of that great tribulation, be my guest, but I do not see how it can apply at His coming as the King of kings.

Relatively simple. If you don't pop out of the grave at His first coming then your gonna be in it for another 1,000 yrs and come during the general resurrection of the dead. The Judgment
is whether or not your worthy to be raised at the first, which is post trib, and predetermined.

 

[God's Truth]

??????

If we didn't have freewill, then why would God have to harden anyone?
Think about it more, because God hardening people proves we have freewill.
God hardens some he wants to be punished for doing what they did or taking too long to figure it out by rejecting Him too much.

It shows that free will is not allowed while chosen to be a vessel to dishonor.

What does that even mean what you say. Freewill is not allowed? What? Nonsense. Freewill is not allowed WHILE chose to be a vessel of dishonor? What? They did wrong of their own freewill and God let them and then chose to punish them for it.

 

[GodB4Us]

Well all I can say to that as an answer to a pre trib rapture and a post trib saint resurrection is it does not explain your first claim at all. We all know there will be a post trib gathering.

The prior post was to why there is to be a pre trib rapture first because Jesus's warning to the saints to be ready or else hardly describes the time for the saints at the end of the great tribulation, but before the great tribulation comes.

If you will look at Matthew 24:29-31 then compare it to the opening of the 5th and 6th seals. Rev 6:9-12 you should see a perfect picture describing the same event. Thus
2 witnesses to the fact there is only 1.
Pay special attention to 6:11 as this is why there is no gathering until AFTER.
And why rapture the dead pre trib as they are free from further evil? And need not come before anyone else, they are just sleeping in their graves.

Unfortunately I still disagree. I did compare the two per the NLT version that popped up for me to read & compare when clicking on your scripture references. Unless you had another version in mind, my discernment is this;

The number of seals on a scroll is meaning they all have to be broken at once for the scroll to be unraveled & the contents within comes forth thus indicating the contents of each seal broken as happening all at once if not in continuous order all at once. I am open for correction, but that seems to be the discernment I am having for now.

Now for Matthew 24:29-32 KJV, align that with Luke 21:33-36 KJV as it too referred to the momentous event in the heavens, but yet what? Jesus is describing the days we are living in now in Luke, how believers will be overcharged for the cares of this life and even be drunken and surfeiting too for how in that day when we are to be taken, at that event in the heavens take place as in we are to be praying now to escape all that is coming to pass & stand before the Son of Man.

Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:

Luke 21:33 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. 34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares. 35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. 36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

Let me ask you this; can you see believers being overcharged for the cares of this life along with getting drunken and surfeiting when they need the mark of the beast to buy & sell in order to do those things during & at the end of the great tribulation?? I don't. Therefore that is why His disciples like Paul & Peter are repeating Jesus's warning to be ready trusting Jesus Christ for us to be always abiding in Him because He will come like a thief in the night in the latter days now.

 

[GodB4Us]

Relatively simple. If you don't pop out of the grave at His first coming then your gonna be in it for another 1,000 yrs and come during the general resurrection of the dead. The Judgment
is whether or not your worthy to be raised at the first, which is post trib, and predetermined.

Those saints that shall pop up after the great tribulation only has the power of the second death not over them and these ones are not living in the City of God, but are to represent Jesus Christ and that City of God from all over the world.

The following generations will be coming from them which means what? They will be marrying and having children for that thousand years reign. Thus.. vessels of wood & earth that are in His House, the vessels unto dishonor. That is why they and the generations coming from them need to visit the City of God to eat from the tree of life for the healing of the nations.

Revelation 22:1And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

But..

The first fruits of the resurrection are before the great tribulation because they will be like the angels that never die and never marry & live in that City of God forever which is in Heaven, but will eventually come down after the great tribulation.

Luke 20:34 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:
36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.

Thus the vessels unto honor that are the vessels of gold & silver that can attend the Marriage Supper in Heaven and will be returning with the Lord after the great tribulation as they are inhabiting that City of God as they shall be like the angels that never die and never marry.

 

[God's Truth]

And at some point He will.

That started happening when Jesus said it would---when he was crucified.

Think about it more, for remember Paul says that he himself is proof that the Jews can be grafted in?

In addition, think of the men of Israel that helped in getting Jesus crucified, they were cut to the heart because they were able to hear the truth and repent.

That baptism was just for remission of sins and had nothing to do with faith in the resurrected Jesus Christ as He hadn't been crucified yet.

You have to listen to me better on this one.

The baptism for remission of sins was to PREPARE the way for Jesus.
Only those who repented of their sins could be the ones who could hear the gospel message from Jesus and be saved.

Gal 3:22 But the scripture hath concluded ALL under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
Again there was no resurrection as of yet therefore they had no faith in it, so justification through faith was not established at that time.

When Jesus walked the earth and had his earthly ministry---he spoke the message and the people had to believe in him to remain God's.

Does this sound like free will to you?

They had the freewill to have faith in God or not. Just because God blinded them for a short time does not mean they never had freewill it means their choice caused them to suffer.

Lastyly, could we maybe stick to a single point as I am unsure of the point you are trying to make. Other than saying NO to whatever I say.

You are the one who just says no to what I say and it was good enough for you to do to me so I figured it was good enough for you.
I always gave you a chance to explain yourself better though and never just tried to cut you off like you do to me.
I'm glad you want to take it slower and stick to a single point, let's try that.

 

[Samson2020]

If we didn't have freewill, then why would God have to harden anyone?

Read the story of why He hardened Pharaoh again.

Only those who repented of their sins could be the ones who could hear the gospel message from Jesus and be saved.

This is salvation by a work of repentance. Not salvation by grace through faith. Repentance is absolute after salvation, true repentance requires knowing that you are saved, as living
out a life that shows repentance requires that you know you are known of God and wish to do always those things that please Him.

We can start with salvation first is you wish.

Philemon 3:9 And be found in Him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the RIGHTEOUSNESS WHICH IS OF
GOD BY FAITH.

 

[GodB4Us]

What happens when someone believes in Him before repenting from all sins? What then? How could they believe in Him unless the call to repent is not to repent from all sins but to repent from unbelief?

If the Jews were called to repent from all sins, be baptize in Jesus's name, and then get the remission of sins, then where is the believing part for the remission of sins that the Gentiles got for believing in Him before water baptism?

Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 10:43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.
44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.

 

[God's Truth]

Read the story of why He hardened Pharaoh again.

What are you talking about?! I explained why to you a couple of times!

God hardened Pharaoh because He wanted to punish him for doing what he did in the beginning.

This is salvation by a work of repentance. Not salvation by grace through faith.

Salvation by works are the works of the law which are the PURIFICATION/CEREMONIAL works.

You try to act like you have some special knowledge from God and don't even know that you are believing a false teaching from me.

People misunderstand Paul about not of by works!

Paul was NOT telling people not to obey Jesus but to only believe!

He was telling people no more circumcision and no more observance of special days and no more special meat rules...

Repentance is absolute after salvation,

No such thing as getting saved without first repenting of sins.

No such thing!

Jesus wouldn't even have came to the Jews if they did not repent first!

And, the only Jews who did repent were the only ones who believed in him.

Isaiah 59:20 “The Redeemer will come to Zion, to those in Jacob who repent of their sins,” declares the Lord.

true repentance requires knowing that you are saved,

No such thing what you say.

as living
out a life that shows repentance requires that you know you are known of God and wish to do always those things that please Him.

You ARE NOT KNOWN by GOD if you don't first obey Him!

1 John 5:3 Love for God means obedience to His commands;


1 Corinthians 8:3 But whoever loves God is known by God


2 John 1:6 And this is love: that we walk in obedience to his commands.

We can start with salvation first is you wish.

Great let's start there.

Philemon 3:9 And be found in Him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the RIGHTEOUSNESS WHICH IS OF
GOD BY FAITH.

Please consider carefully...a righteousness which is of the law ARE THE PURIFICATION/CEREMONIAL works. That is the way people made themselves clean, purified, righteous before God.

Now through Jesus, the righteousness which is by faith means JESUS CLEANS and purifies us now---JUST BY OUR FAITH THAT HE DOES THAT, by faith in his blood, and not by the blood of animals... Jesus washes us by his blood and with pure water after we obey his words! Jesus is our special diet now, and not the purification/ceremonial diet.

Come on let's concentrate on this and maybe you will be blessed with God's Truth and not man's truth.

 

[God's Truth]

What happens when someone believes in Him before repenting from all sins? What then? How could they believe in Him unless the call to repent is not to repent from all sins but to repent from unbelief?

If someone believes in him before they have yet repented of their sins, they they don't really believe in him yet, since he says he forgives sins and repent or perish. Do you understand that? No repent then no salvation. How do you keep getting repent or perish really means you don't have to repent of your sins for salvation???!!!

If the Jews were called to repent from all sins, be baptize in Jesus's name, and then get the remission of sins, then where is the believing part for the remission of sins that the Gentiles got for believing in Him before water baptism?

No one gets remission of sins unless they repent of sins, and, through Jesus they will also receive the Holy Spirit, if Jesus accepts you.

Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 10:43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.
44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.

The Jews who didn't believe and rejected Jesus and helped get him crucified had to repent of that too!

 

[Samson2020]

and don't even know that you are believing a false teaching from me.

WHO SAID I BELIEVED ANYTHING YOU EVER SAID? ALTHOUGH IT'S NICE TO HAVE YOU ADMIT THAT YOU ARE FALSE.

God hardened Pharaoh because He wanted to punish him for doing what he did in the beginning.

IN OTHER WORDS YOU HAVE NO CLUE.
Exo 10:1 And the LORD said unto Moses, go in unto Pharaoh: for I HAVE HARDENED HIS HEART, and the heart of his servants, that I might show these my signs before him

Were done

 

[GodB4Us]

1 Thessalonians 5:1But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.
7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.
8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.
9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.
11 Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.

I believe the point of Jesus warning believers to be ready or else is because many will be walking in darkness when the Bridegroom comes for why He will be coming like a thief in the night to them.
When modern bibles are not all saying the same thing, it is no wonder why there is a famine in the land for hearing the meat of the word of God to discern good & evil by His words with His help.

Do read the KJV with Him for the meat ( the truth ) in His words to discern good & evil because modern bibles are casting doubts in God's words when they can support false teachings out of context in that modern Bible.

 

[God's Truth]

WHO SAID I BELIEVED ANYTHING YOU EVER SAID? ALTHOUGH IT'S NICE TO HAVE YOU ADMIT THAT YOU ARE FALSE.

Bahahahahaahaha That was from 'men' not 'me'. I type fast and didn't put an 'n'.

You would think you would have the sense to figure it out! LOL

You have false teachings from MEN.

You were taught from men, and I was taught from Jesus.

All your beliefs can be tracked to a man's teaching.

All my beliefs are only from the scriptures.

IN OTHER WORDS YOU HAVE NO CLUE.
Exo 10:1 And the LORD said unto Moses, go in unto Pharaoh: for I HAVE HARDENED HIS HEART, and the heart of his servants, that I might show these my signs before him

Were done

God hardened the Pharaoh because to show the signs and the signs were a PUNISHMENT.

 

[God's Truth]

1 Thessalonians 5:1But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.
7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.
8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.
9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.
11 Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.

I believe the point of Jesus warning believers to be ready or else is because many will be walking in darkness when the Bridegroom comes for why He will be coming like a thief in the night to them.
When modern bibles are not all saying the same thing, it is no wonder why there is a famine in the land for hearing the meat of the word of God to discern good & evil by His words with His help.

Do read the KJV with Him for the meat ( the truth ) in His words to discern good & evil because modern bibles are casting doubts in God's words when they can support false teachings out of context in that modern Bible.

Jesus warns those who DON'T OBEY.
You go against obeying when you preach faith alone.

You speak of the meat as being the truth, but no one eats unless they obey.

 

[Samson2020]

You were taught from men, and I was taught from Jesus.

Believe what you want. Only one problem with your claim, as you never espoused your experience in receiving the Holy Ghost, can't imagine you have any anointing
residing in you to teach you.

 

[God's Truth]

1 Thessalonians 5:1But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.
7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.
8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.
9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.
11 Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.

I believe the point of Jesus warning believers to be ready or else is because many will be walking in darkness when the Bridegroom comes for why He will be coming like a thief in the night to them.
When modern bibles are not all saying the same thing, it is no wonder why there is a famine in the land for hearing the meat of the word of God to discern good & evil by His words with His help.

Do read the KJV with Him for the meat ( the truth ) in His words to discern good & evil because modern bibles are casting doubts in God's words when they can support false teachings out of context in that modern Bible.

Jesus warns those who DON'T OBEY.
You go against obeying when you preach faith alone.

You speak of the meat as being the truth, but no one eats unless they obey.

 

[God's Truth]

Believe what you want. Only one problem with your claim, as you never espoused your experience in receiving the Holy Ghost, can't imagine you have any anointing
residing in you to teach you.

You want me to share it with you? Someone who speaks to me the way you do? I like that you are interested in hearing my testimony of when I was saved, but saddened that it seems you only want to hear it to attack it.