Yet this thread and the post in it proves that people are not perfect we have Seth who is rude arrogant and just made false accusations about a brother in Christ and you are defending him the offender This is very odd. wear is your discernment sister?
Have everyone in this thread loved his neighbor as them selves I think not !!
Have we followed what Love is in the bible I think NOT
1 Corinthians 13:4-7
Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth. Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
UNLESS YOUR LIVING IN LOVE 24/7 YOU AINT PERFECT, who can say they live in Love 24/7 ???
Hmm. Jesus maybe? You know, the One we are supposed to be imitating?
"whoever says he abides in him must walk in the same way in which he walked." (1 John 2:6)
Man, you made this thread to supposedly find out what a portion of Romans 7:25 meant. You were told precisely what it means. Obviously, you just want someone to tell you that it is an excuse to sin and one of the most arrogant guys on this website was the only one who agreed with you. Now you are angry that his "sound doctrine" has been refuted by both Scripture and logic and now you just want to take it out on this poor girl because she agrees with Paul and Jesus (and whoever the writer to the Hebrews was).
"Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect." (Matthew 5:48)
"Finally, brothers, rejoice! Be perfected, be exhorted,
be of the same mind, be at peace. And the God of love and peace will be with you." (2 Cor. 13:11 Berean Literal Bible)
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He in the days of His flesh, having offered up both prayers and supplications with loud crying and tears to the
One being able to save Him from death, and having been heard because of reverent submission, though being a Son, He learned obedience from the things He suffered, and having been perfected, He became
the author of eternal salvation to all those who obey Him" (Hebrews 5:7-9)
And who was the arrogant person boasting about how you took in a homeless man? Why don't you keep your merciful deeds in secret so that your father who sees in secret will bless you openly? If you want to fulfill the Law of Christ, then you should go sell all that you own, distribute it to the poor, and partake in that person's sufferings. But you wouldn't do that because that is what it takes to start the path of perfection according to Jesus. Is perfection actually impossible? or are you just unwilling to actually imitate Christ?
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Those who obey him will not be punished. Those who are wise will find a time and a way to do what is right, for there is a time and a way for everything, even when a person is in trouble." (Ecc. 8:6)
Quit trying to make Scripture contradict so that you can abuse Grace. It is not right, my friend.
You have done nothing but insist on abusing God's Grace (seeing that you won't accept the fact that Jesus has the power to cause us to die to the sinful flesh and set us free from sin) even after plenty of Scripture was given to you NOT to do so. Have you not seen the kind of animosity and hostility the guy you have been commending has been showing towards those who are speaking the Truth about being holy and blameless? On top of that, he has been doing so with a lack of knowledge to what the Scriptures say (which is ignorance plain and true). Do you even know what the truth is, brother? Is the truth that we must serve the flesh? Is that really what you think is the Truth?
If what I have said is arrogant and rude, then I apologize. My own ignorance to the meaning of the word "ignorant" has shown through. For I was using it to mean a willful disregard of something being said.
The actual definition of ignorance is: "lack of knowledge, information, or education; the state of being ignorant."
Yet the man was still speaking from a lack of knowledge of the Scriptures. He was selecting the ones that he
thought agreed with what he was saying and was totally ignoring the ones that were contradicting what he was saying.
I also apologize for the apparent arrogance and rudeness of Jesus when He spoke the truth to the Pharisees who kept insisting on their own ways. Since this is apparently how you feel.
Here is an arrogant and rude statement that was aimed at my brother, At Peace, from the house of living faith.
If you knew your Bible, you would know that the law was never meant to save.
Yet who said that the man did not know his Bible? On the contrary, the man who made this rude and ignorant comment did not know his Bible (and he keeps thoroughly proving this point) and was
insisting on his own way. Not the way that is actually told in the Word.
"I found that the very
commandment that was intended to bring life actually brought death." (Romans 7:10)
Yet the reason why the Commandment could not save was that it was not a living entity. The flesh is not subject to the spiritual Law of God so we needed God's Spirit to fulfill it through imitation of THE WAY. This eventually leads to circumcision of the body of flesh. Dying to the flesh so to speak.
The law of the LORD
is perfect,
converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD
is sure, making wise the simple. (Psalm 19:7)
So the above statement that was made by Born again 2004 was out of ignorance according to definition.
Resentful:
feeling or expressing bitterness or indignation at having been treated unfairly.
I do not resent being treated unfairly myself. Although I did bring up me being treated unfairly on the other thread to make an earlier point. I also made it clear that it was forgiven in that thread. Yet forgetting takes repentance in order for a wound to heal. I am not literally writing a record of these things, but when one accuses me of being the oppressor when I was just being oppressed days earlier by that same person, then I think it is reasonable to bring that up for the sake of justice. I mean I do have a functioning short-term memory.
Most of what I have been saying towards this man was answering him according to his folly. The same folly in which he has been spewing at others (as the record of this website shows).
The rich are wise in their own eyes; one who is poor and discerning sees how deluded they are. (Proverbs 28:11)
If a wise person goes to court with a fool, the fool rages and scoffs, and there is no peace. (Proverbs 29:9)
"Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions." (Proverbs 18:2)
"Answer a fool according to his folly, or he will be wise in his own eyes." (Proverbs 26:5)
BUT YET:
"Do not rebuke mockers or they will hate you; rebuke the wise and they will love you." (Proverbs 9:8)
And Yet: "Fools give full vent to their rage, but the wise bring calm in the end." (Proverbs 29:11) and after all this had been brought to peace, you go and do this: "For as churning cream produces butter, and as twisting the nose produces blood, so stirring up anger produces strife." (Proverbs 30:33)
And man, you have basically asked the question about whether we should stay in sin or not. Ultimately, you have "rejoiced in wrongdoing" every time you "liked" the comment of the one who was insinuating to you thatliving in sin is acceptable. Yet the Truth is God's Law.
"Thy righteousness
is an everlasting righteousness, and
thy law is the truth." (Psalm 119:142)
Yet you have not rejoiced in the truth. You have rejoiced in the wrongdoing of turning God's wonderful Grace into a license for Lawlessness. You have fallen pray to the delusion that has been sent to those who rejoice in falsehood. I am sorry to be blunt, but If you want your ears tickled, then that is why you pay your false teachers all of those oodles of cash, friend.
For these are rebellious people, deceitful children, children unwilling to listen to the LORD's instruction. They say to the seers, "See no more visions!" and to the prophets, "Give us no more visions of what is right! Tell us pleasant things, prophesy illusions.
Leave this way, get off this path, and stop confronting us with the Holy One of Israel!" (Isaiah 30:9-11)
Why are you even concerned with loving your neighbor if, apparently, it is impossible to walk in perfect Love? You and BA 2004 can be a part of the ekklesia that is made up of spots and blemishes, the one that gets left behind (the one that makes up the body of "another Jesus"). As for me, At peace, B.A.C., and Lanolin; we can strive to enter by the narrow gate and be a part of the Body of the Lamb of God that is without spot or blemish through the Spirit and Grace of Jesus Christ. For just as the dead do not dwell in the abode of the living, so is it with those who are dead in their faith. Where is your discernment, brother? The fact that you are defending the guy that is telling you that Christ and sin dwell in the same temple (against all sound judgment) is very odd. Even blasphemous. Apparently, my brother, you do not know how to detect true arrogance. Just because someone rebukes you just as they were commanded to do does not make one arrogant (James 5:20). That makes them obedient. And if you see arrogance that I cannot see, then please pray for me, as I have been praying for you and born again 2004. For Pride is idolatry of the self, and all idols must be purged.
For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. (2 Timothy 4:3)
That time has come, friends, and it has been here for quite a while. For a little leaven leavens the entire lump as you can see.
Concerning this there is much speech from us, and difficult in interpretation to speak, since you have become sluggish in the hearings. For even by the time you ought to be teachers, you have need of one to teach you again what is the beginning of the principles of the oracles of God; and you have become those having need of milk, and not of solid food. For everyone partaking of milk is unskilled in the word of righteousness, for he is an infant. But solid food is for the mature, the ones by constant use having trained the senses for distinguishing both good and evil.
Therefore, having left the beginning teaching of the Christ, we should go on to maturity, not laying again a foundation of repentance from dead works, and faith in God, instruction about baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of the resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. And this we will do, if God permits.
For it is impossible for those once having been enlightened, and having tasted of the heavenly gift, and having become partakers of the Holy Spirit, and having tasted the goodness of God’s word and the power of the coming age— and then having fallen away—to restore them again to repentance, crucifying in themselves the Son of God and subjecting Him to open shame.
For land having drunk in the rain coming often upon it and producing vegetation useful for those for the sake of whom also it is tilled, partakes of blessing from God. But that bringing forth thorns and thistles is worthless and near to a curse, of which the end is unto burning.
(Hebrews 5:11-6:8)
Those who forsake the Law praise the lawless, but those who heed it resist them. (Proverbs 28:4)
Evildoers do not understand what is right, but those who seek the LORD understand it fully. (Proverbs 28:5)
If one turns away his ear from hearing the Law, even his prayer is an abomination. (Proverbs 28:9)
Whoever misleads the upright into an evil way will fall into his own pit, but the blameless will have a goodly inheritance. (Proverbs 28:10)
Whoever conceals their sins does not prosper, but the one who confesses and renounces them finds mercy. (Proverbs 28:13)
Blessed is the one who fears the LORD always, but whoever hardens his heart will fall into calamity. (Proverbs 28:14)
He who walks blamelessly will be delivered, But he who is crooked will fall all at once.
(Proverbs 28:18)
Whoever rebukes a person will in the end gain favor rather than one who has a flattering tongue.
(Proverbs 28:23)
Those who trust in themselves are fools, but those who walk in wisdom are kept safe. (Proverbs 28:26)
Fear of the LORD is the foundation of true wisdom. All who obey his commandments will grow in wisdom. Praise him forever! (Psalm 111:10)
The law of the LORD
is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD
is sure, making wise the simple. (Psalm 19:7)
Be wise, my child, and make my heart glad. Then I will be able to answer my critics. (Proverbs 27:11)
Where there is no revelation, people cast off restraint; but blessed is the one who heeds wisdom's instruction. (Proverbs 29:18)
An evil man is ensnared in his transgression, but a righteous man sings and rejoices. (Proverbs 29:6)
An unjust man is an abomination to the righteous, but one whose way is straight is an abomination to the wicked.
(Proverbs 29:27)
Stone is heavy and sand a burden, but a fool's provocation is heavier than both.
(Proverbs 27:3)
Better is open rebuke Than love that is concealed. (Proverbs 27:5)
As a dog returns to its vomit, so fools repeat their folly.
(Proverbs 26:11)
Do you see a person wise in their own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for them. (Proverbs 26:12)
The schemes of folly are transgression, and people detest a mocker. (Proverbs 24:9)
Yet this one applies to myself:
Like one who grabs a stray dog by the ears is someone who rushes into a quarrel not their own. (Proverbs 26:17)
I Should have listened to this:
Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you yourself will be just like him. (Proverbs 26:4)
But yet:
Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own eyes. (Proverbs 26:5)
But yet this is futile:
You cannot separate fools from their foolishness, even though you grind them like grain with mortar and pestle. (Proverbs 27:22)
