Women’s Dress
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I also want the women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, adorning themselves, not with elaborate hairstyles or gold or pearls or expensive clothes,
Paul's instruction to Timothy is about extravagant displays of wealth, not about how revealing clothes are.
Jesus lays responsibility firmly on the person who is looking, not on the one who is being looked at.
But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. If your right eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.
And the rate of sexual abuse of women in Iran is disturbing.
Paul's instruction to Timothy is about extravagant displays of wealth, not about how revealing clothes are.
Jesus lays responsibility firmly on the person who is looking, not on the one who is being looked at.
But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. If your right eye causes you to stumble, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.
And the rate of sexual abuse of women in Iran is disturbing.
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A virtuous women should dress modestly which doesnt really happen very often especially when women are younger, trying to catch someone for a partner. But the full burka is overboard and the use of it hasnt stopped islamic men from being more sexually immoral (their arguement is that women who are dress to impress, provoke men to rape and molestation-as hekuran says, its the lustful thoughts that are at fault more so).
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All secular women are dressing more daring now than 10 years ago. Christian women are more modest.
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Christian modest clothing and dress is NOT what evil Muslim women do.
Early Christian women did NOT dress as those women do.
Islam is a evil, twisting of God and the Bible.
Early Christian women did NOT dress as those women do.
Islam is a evil, twisting of God and the Bible.
"I also want the women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, " Sounds like it's about how revealing clothes are.
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Women should not dress revealing to temp weaker men, and men should not ogle a woman. Only the woman can be a temptress. Proverbs 5, 6.; warn of women dressed as harlots, and adulteresses.
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It does if you bother only to read the first half of the sentence.
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Proverbs 5 and 6 are addressed to men, not women. Each section begins "My Son".
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Yes, but the women are the harlots.
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God set men as protectors and guidance providers toward women just as He does so to men. Just because most of us fail miserably at it doesnt mean we should just let them do whatever and be "okay" with it, thats not what God does, and He is our guide. We should forgive them their sins just as God forgives us ours, but we still must care for and provide guidance just as God does to us.
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Two things.
I missed the memo where God set men in general to give guidance to women.
Second, do you really believe that women are so weak minded that they would benefit from men telling them what to wear?
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Men dont need to tell them what to wear, men need to simply preach the word to them from time to time, moral guidance. If you dont believe me, I will share the verses, but hopefully you know scripture well enough to figure that out on your own.
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Of course men who are not good servants of the Lord, may give bad directions to women, thats not what we are talking about though I assumed. I was saying that amoung men and women who both serve the Lord, they are to listen to what we say morally speaking, because "thats" what scripture teaches us to do.
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I see scriptural commands for married couples and on teaching in church meetings, but I don't see any general injunction that a woman's role is obedience to men.
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Its not just church meetings, the power comes from God, not a building made out of wood and stone. And you are like so many times, trying to prove yourself right instead of seeing that we basically agree.
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Where in the Bible do you find these ideas?
Eph. 5:22-25
" Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;"
This is not a dictatorship over women! It's assuming the husband is subject unto Christ.
If the husband submits properly to Christ, the wife will have no problem submitting to the husband.
