what is sin?

[jiggyfly]

meaning what?

The old covenant containing the law engraven in stone has been done away.

 

[jiggyfly]

Jesus said for us to love him by keeping his commandments

Jn 14v15
If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Jesus said he love us if we keep his commandments

1Jn 5v3
For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

Jesus knows us if we keep his commandments

1Jn 2v3
And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

we also know that sin separates us from God

Is 59v2
But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.

What are Jesus' commandments?

Sin no longer separates us from God.

God's law was given so that all people could see how sinful they were. But as people sinned more and more, God's wonderful grace became more abundant. So just as sin ruled over all people and brought them to death, now God's wonderful grace rules instead, giving us right standing with God and resulting in eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 5:20&21

For God in all his fullness was pleased to live in Christ, and through him God reconciled everything to himself. He made peace with everything in heaven and on earth by means of Christ's blood on the cross. This includes you who were once far away from God. You were his enemies, separated from him by your evil thoughts and actions. Yet now he has reconciled you to himself through the death of Christ in his physical body. As a result, he has brought you into his own presence, and you are holy and blameless as you stand before him without a single fault. Col.1:19-22

 

[MelodyC]

GAL 5:1 It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery.

GAL 5:2 Mark my words! I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all. 3 Again I declare to every man who lets himself be circumcised that he is obligated to obey the whole law. 4 You who are trying to be justified by law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace. 5 But by faith we eagerly await through the Spirit the righteousness for which we hope. 6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love.

GAL 5:7 You were running a good race. Who cut in on you and kept you from obeying the truth? 8 That kind of persuasion does not come from the one who calls you. 9 "A little yeast works through the whole batch of dough." 10 I am confident in the Lord that you will take no other view. The one who is throwing you into confusion will pay the penalty, whoever he may be. 11 Brothers, if I am still preaching circumcision, why am I still being persecuted? In that case the offense of the cross has been abolished. 12 As for those agitators, I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves!

GAL 5:13 You, my brothers, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the sinful nature; rather, serve one another in love. 14 The entire law is summed up in a single command: "Love your neighbor as yourself." 15 If you keep on biting and devouring each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other.

 

[ozell]

[ozell;179051]Is Good friday to Easter Sunday morning a sin? this is not 3 days and 3 nights

some believe it was a friday .some believe it was a Wednesday. some believe it was a Thurday.
In Matthew 12:40 He said, "three days and three nights," but in Mark 8:31 He said, "after three days." He referred to the same event in John 2:19 as "in three days," and on five occasions He said, "the third day." Matthew 16:21; 17:23; 20:19; Luke 13:32; 24:46.

which is the truth?

 

[ozell]

I should clarify what I mean in saying the various definitions of sin point to unbelief.

1:A believer does not blaspheme Holy Spirit
2:A believer is righteous in Christ
3:A believer is justified by faith
4:A believer is set free from the law of sin and death Rom 8:2.
And "whatever the law says it says to those under it" Rom 3:19,20.
Remember also that "The law is not made for a righteous man (believers), but for....ungodly and sinners" 1Tim1:9

can a beleiver sin?

Rom3v23
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

 

[ozell]

What are Jesus' commandments?

Sin no longer separates us from God.

God's law was given so that all people could see how sinful they were. But as people sinned more and more, God's wonderful grace became more abundant. So just as sin ruled over all people and brought them to death, now God's wonderful grace rules instead, giving us right standing with God and resulting in eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 5:20&21

For God in all his fullness was pleased to live in Christ, and through him God reconciled everything to himself. He made peace with everything in heaven and on earth by means of Christ's blood on the cross. This includes you who were once far away from God. You were his enemies, separated from him by your evil thoughts and actions. Yet now he has reconciled you to himself through the death of Christ in his physical body. As a result, he has brought you into his own presence, and you are holy and blameless as you stand before him without a single fault. Col.1:19-22

Long after Jesus death and resurrection

it is written

Hebrews 10:26
<SUP id=en-KJV-30160 class=versenum>26</SUP>For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
and

1 John 2
<SUP id=en-KJV-30552 class=versenum>1</SUP>My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

 

[ozell]

=jiggyfly;179395]What are Jesus' commandments?

Exodus 20


<SUP id=en-KJV-2053 class=versenum>1</SUP>And God spake all these words, saying,

<SUP id=en-KJV-2054 class=versenum>2</SUP>I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

<SUP id=en-KJV-2055 class=versenum>3</SUP>Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

<SUP id=en-KJV-2056 class=versenum>4</SUP>Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

<SUP id=en-KJV-2057 class=versenum>5</SUP>Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

<SUP id=en-KJV-2058 class=versenum>6</SUP>And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

<SUP id=en-KJV-2059 class=versenum>7</SUP>Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

<SUP id=en-KJV-2060 class=versenum>8</SUP>Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

<SUP id=en-KJV-2064 class=versenum>12</SUP>Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.

<SUP id=en-KJV-2065 class=versenum>13</SUP>Thou shalt not kill.

<SUP id=en-KJV-2066 class=versenum>14</SUP>Thou shalt not commit adultery.

<SUP id=en-KJV-2067 class=versenum>15</SUP>Thou shalt not steal.

<SUP id=en-KJV-2068 class=versenum>16</SUP>Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
<SUP id=en-KJV-2069 class=versenum>17</SUP>Thou shalt not covet

 

[ozell]

GAL 5:1 It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery.

GAL 5:2 Mark my words! I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all. 3 Again I declare to every man who lets himself be circumcised that he is obligated to obey the whole law. 4 You who are trying to be justified by law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace. 5 But by faith we eagerly await through the Spirit the righteousness for which we hope. 6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love.

GAL 5:7 You were running a good race. Who cut in on you and kept you from obeying the truth? 8 That kind of persuasion does not come from the one who calls you. 9 "A little yeast works through the whole batch of dough." 10 I am confident in the Lord that you will take no other view. The one who is throwing you into confusion will pay the penalty, whoever he may be. 11 Brothers, if I am still preaching circumcision, why am I still being persecuted? In that case the offense of the cross has been abolished. 12 As for those agitators, I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves!

GAL 5:13 You, my brothers, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the sinful nature; rather, serve one another in love. 14 The entire law is summed up in a single command: "Love your neighbor as yourself." 15 If you keep on biting and devouring each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other.

are you saying keeping the commandents is a yoke of slavery?

which one is a yoke?

which one can you not keep?

what has these passages have to do with the topic?

 

[ozell]

The old covenant containing the law engraven in stone has been done away.

where is this written?

please reread where you are about to take me and tell me what is really done away with.

 

[ozell]

Barny;179383]Hi Ozell,

You insist upon only one definition of sin and ignore the others God gave us. Why such a limited focus on definitions of sin? How is such a limited view of sin helpful in understanding scripture?

hi Barny

dont they all fall under what the Lord had written what sin is

1John 3v4
Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law

You asked why I said "
"Consider the criminal on the cross next to Jesus and compare him with Paul Phil 3:5-9.
What did they have in common. It wasn't the law."

The point I was making is our righteousness is in Christ, not in the law.

then i must ask what is rightousness according to the bible?

it is

Deuteronomy 6
<SUP id=en-KJV-5111 class=versenum>24</SUP>And the LORD commanded us to do all these statutes, to fear the LORD our God, for our good always, that he might preserve us alive, as it is at this day.
<SUP id=en-KJV-5112 class=versenum>25</SUP>And it shall be our righteousness, if we observe to do all these commandments before the LORD our God, as he hath commanded us.

You refer to 1John 3:8 that whoever "sins" is of the devil. Of course the wages of sin is death. If this doctrine were true then the criminal on the cross did well to die after "repenting" instead of having to live a lifetime having to avoid transgressing the law with it's death penalty.

Regarding the criminal on the cross next to Jesus, what do you think he repented of?

it does not say what the thief said to the Lord , but we understand what the Lord said about prayer which is repenting, confessing and asking.

Matthew 6:5-7


<SUP id=en-KJV-23288 class=versenum>5</SUP>And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. <SUP id=en-KJV-23289 class=versenum>6</SUP>But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

what the thief said was done in secret and the Lord rewarded him openly by promising him a place in his kingdom

Psalm 32
I acknowledge my sin unto thee, and mine iniquity have I not hid. I said, I will confess my transgressions unto the LORD; and thou forgavest the iniquity of my sin. Selah.

 

[ozell]

Romans 10:4 Christ is the end of the Law unto righteousness to every one that believeth.When Christ died, He bore for Israel the curse of the Law, for they, and they alone, were under Law. Divine Law, being broken, does not ask for future good conduct on the part of the transgressor; but for his death,--and that only. Now Christ having died, all the claims of the Law against that nation which had been placed under law were completely met and ended. So that even Jews could now believe, and say, "I am dead to the Law!"

To him that believes, therefore, Jew or Gentile, Christ, dead, buried, and risen, is the end of law for righteousness,--in the sense of law's disappearance from the scene! Law does not know, or take cognizance of believers! We read in Chapter Seven (verse 6) that those who had been under the Law were discharged from the Law, brought to nought, put out of business (katargeo), with respect to the Law! The Law has nothing to do with them, as regards righteousness. The Scripture must be obeyed with the obedience of belief: "Ye are not under law [not under than principle] but under grace" [the contrary principle]. "Ye are brought to nothing from Christ [literally, "put out of business from Christ"], ye who would be justified by the Law; ye are fallen away from grace" (Gal. 5:4). Paul writes in Hebrews 7:18,19: "There is a disannulling of a foregoing commandment, because of its weakness and unprofitableness (for the Law made nothing perfect), and a bringing in thereupon of a better hope, through which we draw near unto God." Again, "Christ abolished in His flesh the enmity [between Jew and Gentile], even the Law of commandments contained in ordinances" (Eph. 2:15); again, speaking as a Hebrew believer, Paul says, "Christ blotted out the bond written in ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us: and He hath taken it out of the way, nailing it to the cross" (Col 2:14).

The words Christ is the end of the Law, cannot mean Christ is the "fulfillment of what the law required." The Law required obedience to precepts--or death for disobedience. Now Christ died! If it be answered, that before He died He fulfilled the claims of the Law, kept it perfectly, and that this law-keeping of Christ was reckoned as over against the Israelite's breaking of the Law, then I ask, Why should Christ die? If the claims of the Law were met in Christ's earthly obedience, and if that earthly life of obedience is "reckoned to those who believe" the curse of the Law has been removed by "vicarious law-keeping." Why should Christ die? Now this idea of Christ keeping the Law for "us" (for they will include us among the Israelites! although the Law was not given to us Gentiles), is a deadly heresy, no matter who teaches it. Paul tells us plainly how the curse of the Law was removed: "Christ redeemed us, " (meaning Jewish believers), "from the curse of the Law, having become a curse, is seen in Deuteronomy 21:23: "He that is hanged is accursed of God." It was on the cross, not by an "earthly life of obedience, " that Christ bore the Law's curse.
There was no law given "which could make alive, " Paul says; "otherwise righteousness would have been by it." Therefore those who speak of Christ as taking the place of fulfilling the Law for us,--as "the object at which the Law aimed" (Alford); or, "the fulfillment or accomplishment of the Law" (Calvin); give the Law an office that God did not give it. There is not in all Scripture a hint of the doctrine that Christ's earthly life--His obedience as a man under the [Mosaic] Law, is "put to the account" of any sinner whatsoever! That obedience, which was perfect, was in order that He might "present Himself through the eternal Spirit without spot unto God, " as a sin-offering. It also was in order to His sacrificial death, as "a curse," that Christ died for our sins" (1 Cor. 15:3). William R. Newell, Romans, Verse by Verse

there are many laws from God

10 commandments
circumcision
feast days
animal sacrifce

which one ended with Jesus on the cross?

 

[ozell]

Matthew 4v4
But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

if we don't live by every word of Jesus is it sin?

is every word of Jesus a commandment?

is this the very first commandments given to man and animal void since Jesus died on the cross

to beast

Genesis 1:21-23


<SUP id=en-KJV-21 class=versenum>21</SUP>And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
<SUP id=en-KJV-22 class=versenum>22</SUP>And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth. <SUP id=en-KJV-23 class=versenum>23</SUP>And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

to man

Genesis 1:27-29


<SUP id=en-KJV-27 class=versenum>27</SUP>So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
<SUP id=en-KJV-28 class=versenum>28</SUP>And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. <SUP id=en-KJV-29 class=versenum>29</SUP>And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.



surely this command the very first to man is not done away with?

 

[james g]

Lev 20:27 'A man or a woman who is a medium, or who has familiar spirits, shall surely be put to death; they shall stone them with stones. Their blood shall be upon them.' " Lev 24:16 And whoever blasphemes the name of the Lord shall surely be put to death. All the congregation shall certainly stone him, the stranger as well as him who is born in the land. When he blasphemes the name of the Lord, he shall be put to death.[Deu 13:10 And you shall stone him with stones until he dies, because he sought to entice you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. Deu 21:21 Then all the men of his city shall stone him to death with stones; so you shall put away the evil from among you, and all Israel shall hear and fear. Deu 22:21 then they shall bring out the young woman to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her to death with stones, because she has done a disgraceful thing in Israel, to play the harlot in her father's house. So you shall put away the evil from among you. surely this command is not done away with?stone us all

 

[ozell]

Lev 20:27 'A man or a woman who is a medium, or who has familiar spirits, shall surely be put to death; they shall stone them with stones. Their blood shall be upon them.' " Lev 24:16 And whoever blasphemes the name of the Lord shall surely be put to death. All the congregation shall certainly stone him, the stranger as well as him who is born in the land. When he blasphemes the name of the Lord, he shall be put to death.[Deu 13:10 And you shall stone him with stones until he dies, because he sought to entice you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. Deu 21:21 Then all the men of his city shall stone him to death with stones; so you shall put away the evil from among you, and all Israel shall hear and fear. Deu 22:21 then they shall bring out the young woman to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her to death with stones, because she has done a disgraceful thing in Israel, to play the harlot in her father's house. So you shall put away the evil from among you. surely this command is not done away with?stone us all

is it?

what is the wages of sin?

the wages of sin is death

Roman 6v23
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

in other countries these people are killed.

is the commandments done away with or did the Lord take it out of man's hand and put into His.

yet the Lord said

Matthew 13:27-30

<SUP id=en-KJV-23567 class=versenum>27</SUP>So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
<SUP id=en-KJV-23568 class=versenum>28</SUP>He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?

<SUP id=en-KJV-23569 class=versenum>29</SUP>But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.


<SUP id=en-KJV-23570 class=versenum>30</SUP>Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

 

[ozell]

Lev 20:27 'A man or a woman who is a medium, or who has familiar spirits, shall surely be put to death; they shall stone them with stones. Their blood shall be upon them.' " Lev 24:16 And whoever blasphemes the name of the Lord shall surely be put to death. All the congregation shall certainly stone him, the stranger as well as him who is born in the land. When he blasphemes the name of the Lord, he shall be put to death.[Deu 13:10 And you shall stone him with stones until he dies, because he sought to entice you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage. Deu 21:21 Then all the men of his city shall stone him to death with stones; so you shall put away the evil from among you, and all Israel shall hear and fear. Deu 22:21 then they shall bring out the young woman to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her to death with stones, because she has done a disgraceful thing in Israel, to play the harlot in her father's house. So you shall put away the evil from among you. surely this command is not done away with?stone us all

is it done away with?

we have the electric chair, we have lethal injections it was just 40 years ago we had hanging.

for breaking the laws of the land like stealing, killing , adultery, lying.
etc.

is it done away with?

 

[james g]

<DIR>Rom 2:11For there is no partiality with God. Rom 2:12 For as many as have sinned without law will also perish without law, and as many as have sinned in the law will be judged by the law Rom 2:13 (for not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified; Rom 2:14 for when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do the things in the law, these, although not having the law, are a law to themselves, Rom 2:15 who show the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and between themselves their thoughts accusing or else excusing them) Rom 2:16 in the day when God will judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ, according to my gospel. Rom 2:17 Indeed <SUP> you are called a Jew, and rest on the law, and make your boast in God, Rom 2:18 and know His will, and approve the things that are excellent, being instructed out of the law, Rom 2:19 and are confident that you yourself are a guide to the blind, a light to those who are in darkness, Rom 2:20 an instructor of the foolish, a teacher of babes, having the form of knowledge and truth in the law. Rom 2:21You, therefore, who teach another, do you not teach yourself? You who preach that a man should not steal, do you steal? Rom 2:22 You who say, "Do not commit adultery," do you commit adultery? You who abhor idols, do you rob temples?Rom 2:23 You who make your boast in the law, do you dishonor God through breaking the law? Act 15:24 Since we have heard that some who went out from us have troubled you with words, unsettling your souls, saying, "You must be circumcised and keep the law"*--to whom we gave no such commandment-<DIR>
<DIR>Act 15:28 For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things: Act 15:29 that you abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality.<SUP>If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell. </SUP>Gal 5:13 For you, brethren, have been called to liberty; only do not use liberty as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another.Gal 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this: "You shall love your neighbor as yourself." <SUP><DIR>Gal 6:15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision avails anything, but a new creation. Gal 6:16 And as many as walk according to this rule, peace and mercy be upon them, and upon the Israel of God. Gal 6:17 From now on let no one trouble me, for I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus. Gal 6:18 Brethren, the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit. Amen. </SUP></SUP></DIR></DIR></DIR></DIR>

 

[jari]

We have Law of Libery:


Jas 1:24-25 For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was. (25) But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.



But if we werent under grace we would be in trouple because If we break the law in one point we are guilty of it all:

Jas 2:9-10 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. (10) For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.


So thanks to God for liberty:

Jas 2:12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

And Like Paul put it law is only put for law breakers:

1Ti 1:8-10 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully; (9) Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, (10) For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;


And if we walk in the spirit there certainly isnt any law to us:


Gal 5:22-23 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, (23) Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.



Thanks again to God for His grace:

Rom 8:1-2 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. (2) For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.


The Law can only condemn us but, but the Bible says law was weak:

Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

So we are not under the law:

Rom 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.



I think this gives some idea what it means to trust in Gods grace!

 

[AudreyNicole]

the bible definition of sin is the transgression of the law.

1John 3v4
Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law

some churches teach that smoking and drinking, parties and shopping is sin.

is this correct?

Here's how I think of it: religion is religion, but God is God. We shouldn't follow religion or man, we should follow God alone.

With Christ's death we are freed from the law and we are no longer bound by sin. That doesn't mean we can't sin though.... as long as we are human we will sin, unfortunately.

So what is sin? It easy to get all caught up in theology and definitions and what have you, but the easiest way to figure out what is sinful is by asking yourself this question: is this harming me or anyone else (either physically, emotionally, spiritually)?

Love is the law... anything less than that is sin.

If you really wanna be safe, ask yourself this question: is this glorifying God?

"All things are lawful, but not all things are profitable. All things are lawful, but not all things edify" 1 Cor. 10:23

So, for you, if smoking, drinking, partying, or shopping hurts you or others, its sin.... (and I don't think these edify the church so they are not profitable either).

 

[ozell]

Here's how I think of it: religion is religion, but God is God. We shouldn't follow religion or man, we should follow God alone.

With Christ's death we are freed from the law and we are no longer bound by sin. That doesn't mean we can't sin though.... as long as we are human we will sin, unfortunately.

So what is sin? It easy to get all caught up in theology and definitions and what have you, but the easiest way to figure out what is sinful is by asking yourself this question: is this harming me or anyone else (either physically, emotionally, spiritually)?

Love is the law... anything less than that is sin.

If you really wanna be safe, ask yourself this question: is this glorifying God?

"All things are lawful, but not all things are profitable. All things are lawful, but not all things edify" 1 Cor. 10:23

So, for you, if smoking, drinking, partying, or shopping hurts you or others, its sin.... (and I don't think these edify the church so they are not profitable either).

love is the law

and this is what Jesus and Paul said love is

John 14v15
If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Romans 13
Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.


<SUP id=en-KJV-28276 class=versenum>9</SUP>For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
<SUP id=en-KJV-28277 class=versenum>10</SUP>Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

 

[ozell]

We have Law of Libery:


Jas 1:24-25 For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was. (25) But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.



But if we werent under grace we would be in trouple because If we break the law in one point we are guilty of it all:

Jas 2:9-10 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. (10) For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.


So thanks to God for liberty:

Jas 2:12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

And Like Paul put it law is only put for law breakers:

1Ti 1:8-10 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully; (9) Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, (10) For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;


And if we walk in the spirit there certainly isnt any law to us:


Gal 5:22-23 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, (23) Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.



Thanks again to God for His grace:

Rom 8:1-2 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. (2) For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.


The Law can only condemn us but, but the Bible says law was weak:

Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

So we are not under the law:

Rom 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.



I think this gives some idea what it means to trust in Gods grace!

what is the law of liberty(freedom) what law frees us?

what is grace according to the bible?

should we keep the law if we even break one?

it is written
1 John 2

<SUP id=en-KJV-30552 class=versenum>1</SUP>My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: