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Jesus told his Father, he was not going to pray for this world, then how should we pray?

I chose to turn around.
I chose life over death.
I chose to lay the gun down and not take my own life.
I chose to reach out and take his hand.
I chose.
We have a choice to make.
God is a complete gentleman; He is not forceful.
He gives us wisdom; it is our choice to use it.
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
5 times you boast of your choice , The Scriptures tell salvation belongs to the Lord

Psa 3:8 Salvation belongeth unto the LORD: thy blessing is upon thy people. Selah.
 
I chose to turn around.
I chose life over death.
I chose to lay the gun down and not take my own life.
I chose to reach out and take his hand.
I chose.
We have a choice to make.
God is a complete gentleman; He is not forceful.
He gives us wisdom; it is our choice to use it.

We call this idea SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS. And it stinks in the nostrils of God. He has not abdicated his throne in favor of any man or womans wisdom, and works
all things according to HIS OWN WILL. Ephesians 1:11
 
There is no debate; yes, I know Him.

Yes, and faith cometh by hearing...and hearing by the Word of God.

We chose to confess Him as Lord and Savior...some have not.

Many are called; but few are chosen.

Hum, many are called but wasn't chosen... Why? Probably because they never humbled themselves and allowed God to have them.
 
Hum, many are called but wasn't chosen... Why? Probably because they never humbled themselves and allowed God to have them.
Allowed God ? Really we the creation, we the clay , allowed the Creator the Potter

Rom 9:21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
 
Hum, many are called but wasn't chosen... Why? Probably because they never humbled themselves and allowed God to have them.

You ask a great question. The answer is found in understanding the MYSTERY OF INIQUITY. Study it.

A hardened heart will not and can not humble itself. It must be softened by the master potter FIRST.
 
Romans 9:16 "So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that showeth mercy."
9:18 'Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom HE WILL HE HARDENETH."
 
Romans 9:16 "So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that showeth mercy."
9:18 'Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom HE WILL HE HARDENETH."
So why is your heart so hardened?
 
Allowed God ? Really we the creation, we the clay , allowed the Creator the Potter

Rom 9:21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
Yes, God doesnt force anything upon any1, He is a perfect gentleman. Yes, I asked Him to come into my heart; and humbled myself, crying out Abba Father. I knocked and He answered. I chose to knock.
God bless you both on your search.
 
Yes, God doesnt force anything upon any1, He is a perfect gentleman. Yes, I asked Him to come into my heart; and humbled myself, crying out Abba Father. I knocked and He answered. I chose to knock.
God bless you both on your search.
What are your Scripture support passages ?

In first 35 years of my life my understanding was the same as yours . Praying to read His Word with out preconceived notions over a few years He opened my eyes . Growing in His Grace His salvation His plan for my life for about 35 years now.. The search has been blessing
Joh 6:43 Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Murmur not among yourselves.

Joh 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
 
What are your Scripture support passages ?

In first 35 years of my life my understanding was the same as yours . Praying to read His Word with out preconceived notions over a few years He opened my eyes . Growing in His Grace His salvation His plan for my life for about 35 years now.. The search has been blessing
Joh 6:43 Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Murmur not among yourselves.

Joh 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
My scripture support is called the Word of God.
He blesses the righteous and the unrighteous.
God bless
 
I chose to turn around.
I chose life over death.
I chose to lay the gun down and not take my own life.
I chose to reach out and take his hand.
I chose.
We have a choice to make.
God is a complete gentleman; He is not forceful.
He gives us wisdom; it is our choice to use it.
Number 1. It is a insult to even having a thought of attributing a attribute of gentleman to GOD. And are you sure, you are not have a “I” problem. I don’t think you are seeing to clearly. But I see, you are trying to see real hard. I am praying for you that you will see a little clearer. And how much God’s grace and mercy he has pour out on you! When you could not even save yourself or call and believe on His name. But through grace and Not of yourself. Neither could you or had the ability., to reach up and say Lord help me, a sinner. Unless He had drawn you to Christ.
43“Stop grumbling among yourselves,” Jesus answered. 44“No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day. 45It is written in the Prophets: ‘They will all be taught by God.’ d Everyone who has heard the Father and learned from him comes to me. (John 6).
21For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, even so the Son gives life to whom he is pleased to give it. 22Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son, 23that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father, who sent him.
(John 5).

Jesus wrath will also pour one day!
Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb!

(Revelation 6).
 
So why is your heart so hardened?
Because you are a evil sinner and God don’t like you! And He Harden it! That is why our hearts was harden! That is called a Translation” in every day vernacular. And He gave you away out called “Mercy”!
 
Number 1. It is a insult to even having a thought of attributing a attribute of gentleman to GOD. And are you sure, you are not have a “I” problem. I don’t think you are seeing to clearly. But I see, you are trying to see real hard. I am praying for you that you will see a little clearer. And how much God’s grace and mercy he has pour out on you! When you could not even save yourself or call and believe on His name. But through grace and Not of yourself. Neither could you or had the ability., to reach up and say Lord help me, a sinner. Unless He had drawn you to Christ.
43“Stop grumbling among yourselves,” Jesus answered. 44“No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day. 45It is written in the Prophets: ‘They will all be taught by God.’ d Everyone who has heard the Father and learned from him comes to me. (John 6).
21For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, even so the Son gives life to whom he is pleased to give it. 22Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son, 23that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father, who sent him.
(John 5).

Jesus wrath will also pour one day!
Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb!

(Revelation 6).
I was just as saved when i believed as does rag4acrown1. At this time being very thankful to understand my Salvation is His, over the later years of my life. Wacking folks in the head with a Bible does not often get the results one is looking for.
 
I was just as saved when i believed as does rag4acrown1. At this time being very thankful to understand my Salvation is His, over the later years of my life. Wacking folks in the head with a Bible does not often get the results one is looking for.
I believe he is save! He just acting like Peter in acts that’s all! He just still have a little Pelagius and Arminian in his doctrine that’s all. He is saved and have the Holy Spirit in him. He just acting Peter
 
New International Version

But the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart and he would not listen to Moses and Aaron, just as the LORD had said to Moses.

(Joshua 11:20).
New International Version
For it was the LORD himself who hardened their hearts to wage war against Israel, so that he might destroy them totally, exterminating them without mercy, as the LORD had commanded Moses.

(Romans 9:18).
New International Version

Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.
 
I was just as saved when i believed as does rag4acrown1. At this time being very thankful to understand my Salvation is His, over the later years of my life. Wacking folks in the head with a Bible does not often get the results one is looking for.
I didn’t wack him over the head. Word of God is A hammer God said. And Ephesians said it is like a double edge sword that cuts. And the Holy Spirit is like oil that heals. And I know “Mary and Martha” like to put bandages on, pretty good.
 
I’m sorry “rag4acrown1” I thought you were a Male. I would never speak to a sister in Christ like that. Please for give me. I believe men and females missions are different in Christ Jesus. I am truly sorry.:( Men are harder for the task. And can take more I believe that makes them stronger through engagement and wiser for a greater force they must engage.
 
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