Paul was speaking of himself and Timothy, not YOU. (Or me.) Again, he was speaking to believers about himself (and Timothy), not them. Are you an Apostle? When were you appointed an Apostle? (Just wondering.)
True Narcissism is to take that verse and apply it to oneself, even boasting about it.
Imagine shirking your responsibility to the lost by dancing around that verse.
Can you dance around these?
1.
Matt 16:24 Then Jesus said to his disciples, "Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me.
2.
Matt 5:14 You are the light of the world.
3. Was Paul following Jesus?
I am interested in knowing what you believe your purpose on earth is.
I don't (teach that God is Evil).
You do and I gave you the reasons. Why don't you rebut them instead of this cringeworthy emotional rant.
You just don't understand evil, or more specifically, have been unable to understand what I have posted.
No, because you seem unable to rationally explain how the term ''Accept me or Die'' is free will.
I would bet that if you said that to your daughter about the guy she was forced to marry, she would slap you. Meditate on that.
And yes, though I reject the Trinity, I've not posted what I believe about the divinity of Christ.
Well, that would be quite an important post to post don't you think?
It is unfortunate that you haven't figured that out yet.
Figured out why you reject the trinity? I must read your mind?
It's also unfortunate that you haven't figured out that I don't answer to you either (another element of true narcissism).
According to scripture we are to answer to one another and not just run with wild teachings and theories having no regard for the damage we can do.
No doubt. Because that violence is in your heart. Why else would you post such a thing?
Imagine asking a Christian why they feel compelled to deal with 'so called' Christians painting their God as pure evil.
Then (if you know him) why do you reject the teaching of Jesus where he says that we should pray to the Father? (Actually, being written in the imperative mood, PRAY is a command.)
I explained to you that Him saying that only pertained to the period He was God the Son.
Do you have an issue with people praying to Jesus today?
After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
(Matthew 6:9 KJV)
And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?
(Luke 6:46 KJV)
It does not matter how many times you quote cherry picked verses, they will remain cherry picked as long as there is further scripture necessary to shed light on them.
Read Matt 4 and note that the devil can state ''jump, angels will catch you'' a million times and Jesus would still not jump because there is further scripture to consider on the topic.
Any teaching the Jesus is not God is STRAIGHT from the devil and you are 100% being an instrument of the devil. Why not 'deal' with the scripture you 'are' ignoring?
For a child is born to us, and a son is given to us, whose government is upon his shoulder: and his name is called the Messenger of great counsel: for I will bring peace upon the princes, and health to him.
(Isaiah 9:6 Brenton)
Bad scripture creates bad doctrine.
It is a common tactic for non-trinitarians to pick a bad translation or mock isa 9:6. I was waiting for you to do it.
Isa 9:6 is the clearest explanation. But we also have these which you would need to try dance around to:
2. The Messiah would be The LORD/YAHWEH our Righteousness
Jeremiah 23:5-6 'The days are coming,” declares the LORD, “when I will raise up to David a righteous Branch, a King who will reign wisely
and do what is just and right in the land. In his days Judah will be saved and Israel will live in safety. This is the name by which he will be called: The LORD Our Righteousness.
3. The Messiah has been from the days of eternity
Mic 5:2 "But as for you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, Too little to be among the clans of Judah, From you One will go forth for Me to be ruler in Israel. His goings forth are from long ago, From the days of eternity."
4. The Messiah would be the Son of God
Psa 2:6-9 "But as for Me, I have installed My King Upon Zion, My holy mountain." (7) "I will surely tell of the decree of the LORD: He said to Me, 'You are My Son, Today I have begotten You. (8) 'Ask of Me, and I will surely give the nations as Your inheritance, And the very ends of the earth as Your possession. (9) 'You shall break them with a rod of iron, You shall shatter them like earthenware.'"
5. A virgin would give birth to one who is 'God with us'
sa 7:14 "Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, a virgin will be with child and bear a son, and she will call His name Immanuel.
6. David's lord is both a priest and a king and at the right hand of Yahweh
Psa 110:1-6 A Psalm of David. The LORD says to my Lord: "Sit at My right hand Until I make Your enemies a footstool for Your feet." (2) The LORD will stretch forth Your strong scepter from Zion, saying, "Rule in the midst of Your enemies." (3) Your people will volunteer freely in the day of Your power; In holy array, from the womb of the dawn, Your youth are to You as the dew. (4) The LORD has sworn and will not change His mind, "You are a priest forever According to the order of Melchizedek." (5) The Lord is at Your right hand; He will shatter kings in the day of His wrath. (6) He will judge among the nations, He will fill them with corpses, He will shatter the chief men over a broad country.
7. God has a Son and asks you what His name is!
Pro 30:4 Who has ascended into heaven and descended? Who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has wrapped the waters in His garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is His name or His son's name? Surely you know!
8. God has a God!
Psa 45:6-7 Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of uprightness is the scepter of Your kingdom. (7) You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness; Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You With the oil of joy above Your fellows.
9. Yahweh is spoken of two different personalities
Hos 1:6-7 Then she conceived again and gave birth to a daughter. And the LORD said to him, "Name her Lo-ruhamah, for I will no longer have compassion on the house of Israel, that I would ever forgive them. (7) "But I will have compassion on the house of Judah and deliver them by the LORD their God, and will not deliver them by bow, sword, battle, horses or horsemen.
10. Yahweh will live amongst us, and Yahweh will send Him!
Zech 2:10-11 Shout and be glad, O Daughter of Zion. For I am coming, and I will live among you,” declares the LORD. “Many nations will be joined with the LORD in that day and will become my people. I will live among you and you will know that the LORD Almighty has sent me to you.’
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What Bible verses say the Messiah would be God?
Well, most highly intelligent people in the world think believing in a God whose origin we cannot even come close to explaining is insane and yet we believe it.
Do you believe God can do anything? Yes or No?
I find it both sad and hilarious that you think yourself quite competent in logic. You've not just posted a straw man, you're commanding a straw army.
Me stating that a non-trinitarian = mocks God, annihilationism = says God is evil and that the death penalty for first week abortionists is unjust = straw man army?
I have given reasons for my arguments. Please stop wasting my time. You are a terrible dancer, and I am all out of popcorn.
Do you even hear your own voice? That God is not logical? And if "who God is" cannot be "fully grasped," then why do you insist that you understand it enough to teach it? We are now in the realm of the absurd.
God is very logical. His
existence is not. Instead of insulting me, I would like to see you take a stab at explaining it.
Go, floor is yours....
Please, no more dancing, you are a terrible dancer, and I am all out of popcorn.
We hadn't been discussing worship and praise. I merely pointed out to you that Jesus taught that we should PRAY to the Father. You're smart enough to know that changing the words is disingenuous, so I cannot help but find you to be a purposeful liar, regardless of the opinion that
@Christ4Ever holds for you.
You are dancing again.
You and your non-trinitarian friend here made the point that God is a jealous God. Now I am asking you what a jealous God thinks of us worshiping and praising Jesus.
Whereas Peter preaches Jesus and Him resurrected. While the Messiah rejected all sacrifice and even stopped the sacrifices in the Temple, Paul turned Jesus into a human sacrifice. (A thing that never bothered either Gentile or Aztec.)
Dodging. Please answer the question / deal directly with point made.
Imagine talking about Lucy when I asked about Mary.
Please, no more dancing, you are a terrible dancer, and I am all out of popcorn.
How wonderfully anthropomorphic... to attribute human sentiments to God. God is not a man, as
@bowwow has repeatedly posted.
So, when you quote verses that state that God is a jealous God, He means something else?
Tell me. How can you forgive a debt that's been paid?
Not sure what that has to do with my line. Please re-read
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As always Rhema, very painful replying to such a cringeworthy post from you. I do it only for the reader. I wish you were 'better'.
