What do you believe?

[Twistie]

Why would you call out Catholics? Why even Rome? That's the issue with you guys - you have zero evidence. All you do is point the finger. You really have a stick up your butt about Catholics huh?

Should I take you to school and spoon-feed you the truth about all this nonsense?

Just so you know, I'm more of a Catholic than anything else. Calling Catholics Primates out-does it! Don't be a ****.

Speaking Truth is what is done... It doesn't matter what title one wants to take on I was brought up roman Catholic Ive meant and love many of the nuns and the priest that where put in my life and help mold me as a child but just because I was brought up in it don't mean I can turn a blind eye to the Truth of what is.. know what I mean ..


Once we know the Truth we don't go back into what man taught me and What the Lord reveals to me for if I did I'd be like

But it has happened unto them according to the true proverb: “The dog turns to his own vomit again,” and, “the sow that was washed, to her wallowing in the mire.”


I'd much rather stay close to the Lord than to hold on to the teachings of man .

And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me.”

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[Rhema]

I'm not interested in your negativity.

Fair enough, I'm not interested in your religious fantasies either. But you know EXACTLY what's going to happen. And it saddens me that you're going to set yourself up for it again.

In love,
Rhema

 

[Ncdataman]

But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man's judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self. For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord.​

(1 Corinthians 4:3-4 KJV)

(In your own arrogance you seemed to have missed the above memo.)

Rhema

As usual based on your history its more of the same. It doesn't take a religious scholar to copy and paste some verses I simply made an observation and you have proven my point by your responses here. I'll pray you actually read some of those verses you copy and paste so freely, its apparent you dont understand the true meaning of any of them.

 

[th1bill]

As usual based on your history its more of the same. It doesn't take a religious scholar to copy and paste some verses I simply made an observation and you have proven my point by your responses here. I'll pray you actually read some of those verses you copy and paste so freely, its apparent you dont understand the true meaning of any of them.

He is out for hate and discontent and the quickest and most thorough method of handling this type of toll is to ignore them. I do not find a switch to ignore here but we do not need to answer and tickle his fancy.

 

[Twistie]

He is out for hate and discontent and the quickest and most thorough method of handling this type of toll is to ignore them. I do not find a switch to ignore here but we do not need to answer and tickle his fancy.

Apologies for butting in the convo but I believe the he your referring to is a she by the words they post.. seems it's the female spirit that gets emotional and angry more so then the male spirit.. n to ignore ya gotta go to their page n hit ignore.. many will say oh they ignore because they know I am right which is t the case for me at least I ignore because I don't wanna be responsible for leading them into sin

Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.


Hope all is well with you and yours!!!!

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[Garee]

I doubt it.

It's called history.

And I don't think you study history in depth.

Hi thanks

The study in depth I believe is the the reason Christ the teaching master spoke in parables and without he spoke not .Hiding the unseen gospel mysteries from dying mankind. Giving his faithful understanding to His children

In that way the temporal historical must be mixed with the unseen eternal faith or according to Hebrew 4:1-2 there can be no gospel rest . they have no interpretation

Hebrews 4Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.;For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it

A valuable tool in every bible study that seems to get over looked.. . . the mixing tool, comparing the the temporal things seen the historical to the unseen eternal things the spiritual. comparing the spiritual (faith) to faith.

Not a salvation issue more of can we hear the enriched gospel unveiling the mysteries of faith?

1 Corinthians 4:18While we look not at the things (historical) which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

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[Rhema]

The study in depth I believe is the the reason Christ the teaching master spoke in parables and without he spoke not

Garee, the subject at hand was the canon. Jesus said nothing whether in a parable or not about the New Testament canon, except to warn about false prophets. (Prophets write things down.)

But truly, you need to fix your head about Jesus only speaking in parables. Jesus spoke quite plainly to his disciples on MANY occasions when he EXPLAINED his parables to his disciples (who then wrote things down).

I wonder what your "sola scriptura" would look like if it only had "Christ-the-teaching-master parables" in it.

Rhema

 

[Rhema]

its apparent you dont understand the true meaning of any of them.

Oh I quite understand the teaching about the blind leading the blind and posting accusations of the brethren.

Perhaps you could enlighten me as to how one can forgive a debt that's been paid?

(Since you claim to understand the true meaning of things.)

Ex Cathedra
Rhema

PS: And though it be a copy and paste, I still mean it. But I see you have started to align with all the other accusers of the brethren. (Typical ain't it.)

 

[Rhema]

He is out for hate and discontent and the quickest and most thorough method of handling this type of toll is to ignore them. I do not find a switch to ignore here but we do not need to answer and tickle his fancy.

So, since there IS an ignore button, you're just proving an ignorance? Bill, if one is measuring hate and discontent, you have by far outpaced me sir. Why don't you add something positive to the discussions (and I have many posts that do this) instead of just being the forum's grump old man?

Kindly,
Rhema

 

[Rhema]

Apologies for butting in the convo but I believe the he your referring to is a she

Twistie, apologies for the correction, but you have been so consistently wrong in all your posts it's utterly astonishing.

If your abba told you I'm female, he's an idiot. Meaning you should take to heart the scripture that says lean not upon your own understanding, because like it or not, I am male.

Why you hate smart people isn't my fault. But girl, you gotta an attitude on you, that's for sure.

In love,
Rhema

Hope your husband's doing better. (Or should I stop praying?)

 

[Ncdataman]

Oh I quite understand the teaching about the blind leading the blind and posting accusations of the brethren.

Perhaps you could enlighten me as to how one can forgive a debt that's been paid?

(Since you claim to understand the true meaning of things.)

Ex Cathedra
Rhema

PS: And though it be a copy and paste, I still mean it. But I see you have started to align with all the other accusers of the brethren. (Typical ain't it.)

The only accusation is that you are only here to cause strife and discourse, and you continue by attacking others here, again proving my observation is accurate. I have not seen a single post from you that adds to a discussion other than to flaunt your opinion on the matter or by being insulting to others. I think all of us are waiting for your next round of silly insults and accusations. I won't be bothering to respond to any more of your silliness. It's a good thing I am no longer a moderator, or you would be taking your hatefulness elsewhere.

 

[th1bill]

Apologies for butting in the convo but I believe the he your referring to is a she by the words they post.. seems it's the female spirit that gets emotional and angry more so then the male spirit.. n to ignore ya gotta go to their page n hit ignore.. many will say oh they ignore because they know I am right which is t the case for me at least I ignore because I don't wanna be responsible for leading them into sin

Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.


Hope all is well with you and yours!!!!

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I am still a 35-year recovering addict but still have the war dreams at night but I will be 80 on the 25th and my MS is controlled with self-injected shots. My wife, on the other hand, has been receiving Platelet and Blood Infusions to fight the Angioplasty for better than 30 months and now has the rarest form of Breast cancer and, she is 81 and wants to be home with our Yashuah and His Father. Her last Infusion will be on the Tenth and she goes on Hopice the next day. The best estimate gives her 14 days from the tenth but she is going Home. Praise the Holy Name of our God.

 

[Twistie]

I am still a 35-year recovering addict but still have the war dreams at night but I will be 80 on the 25th and my MS is controlled with self-injected shots. My wife, on the other hand, has been receiving Platelet and Blood Infusions to fight the Angioplasty for better than 30 months and now has the rarest form of Breast cancer and, she is 81 and wants to be home with our Yashuah and His Father. Her last Infusion will be on the Tenth and she goes on Hopice the next day. The best estimate gives her 14 days from the tenth but she is going Home. Praise the Holy Name of our God.

Aww Bill we will surely keep you and your wife in our prayers..

This is my comfort in my affliction, that your promise gives me life.


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[th1bill]

Aww Bill we will surely keep you and your wife in our prayers..

This is my comfort in my affliction, that your promise gives me life.


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Thank you. I have been praying for a painless transition into Glory on her behalf for some time. It took me 45 years and 4 tries before I found my soul mate but Deeter and I have been married since '91 and she lived with me waking her up screaming, "Get in the damn hole before they kill you," at 3am. I think I scared the other three half to death.

 

[Twistie]

Thank you. I have been praying for a painless transition into Glory on her behalf for some time. It took me 45 years and 4 tries before I found my soul mate but Deeter and I have been married since '91 and she lived with me waking her up screaming, "Get in the damn hole before they kill you," at 3am. I think I scared the other three half to death.

Whoso findeth a wife findeth a good thing, and obtaineth favour of the Lord

We will also join in prayer with you for your prayers for your wife..

Mercy unto you, and peace, and love, be multiplied.

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[Garee]

Garee, the subject at hand was the canon. Jesus said nothing whether in a parable or not about the New Testament canon, except to warn about false prophets. (Prophets write things down.)

But truly, you need to fix your head about Jesus only speaking in parables. Jesus spoke quite plainly to his disciples on MANY occasions when he EXPLAINED his parables to his disciples (who then wrote things down).

I wonder what your "sola scriptura" would look like if it only had "Christ-the-teaching-master parables" in it.

Rhema

Hi it would seem the burden is on you .Christ said without parables he prophesied not. Comparing the temporal dying things seen to the eternal not seen things of Christ the Father.

Matthew 13:34All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them:

Mark 4:11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables: (no spirit understanding)

Parables clearly teach how to walk by faith the unseen eternal things

It would seem now days many Christian have more confidence in signs and wonders, dreams, out of body experiences I heard a voice More than they do with Parables .

Parables protect the integrity of the author of Sola scriptura.

There are many examples using a whole series of parables to teach how to walk by faith the unseen things of God the gospel

On one occasion after completing three parables . The apostles coming from the Pharisees with Sadducees two sect that worshiped dying fathers some call patron saints

When they realized the parable was against them racist Jews when Christ went to the Gentiles to show he is the father of all the nations .

The Apostles demanded God bring down fire and destroy them all after that pagan foundation "out of sight out of mind" up in flame . Jesus the apostle rebuked the apostles and revealed what manner of spirit they were of , the spirit of the unredeemed ..

I dont think Christ would lead a person astray. He will give the understanding of a parable if one searches for it .No search no find .Dig in .

Luke 9:51-55;And it came to pass, when the time was come that he should be received up, he stedfastly set his face to go to Jerusalem,
And sent messengers before his face: and they went, and entered into a village of the Samaritans, to make ready for him.And they did not receive him, because his face was as though he would go to Jerusalem. And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit (spirit of the dead) ye are of.

He assembled cannon not the racist Jew that call down fire to remove all witness of the cannon assembler Christ.

In that way the Catholic cannon The CCC sacred oral traditons of dying mankind that they claim as Devine.

 

[Rhema]

Hi it would seem the burden is on you

No it's not. Nor would any normal thinker think so.

Have a good day.

Garee, FYI - I don't read your posts. At best I skim. Because most of what you type just doesn't make sense.

Sorry - that's just the way it is.

Rhema

 

[KingJ]

I would offer.

The Father (Creator) and Son( creation) .The dynamic dual .The "let there be" (#1)and the flesh was "God alone good "(#2) as if one work

The us in Genesis 1:26

Exodus 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

Not 3500 and rising his and hers gods in the likeness of dying mankind .Some call patron saints

The Father not seen pouring out his Holy Spirit life on dying flesh and blood in jeapordy of his own Spirt life.

There is no need to to try and create a earthly family .

God is not a man dying mankind) and neither is there any infalible interpreter like a Pope(daysman) set as a umpire between our Holy Father not seen and dying mankind seen

Jesus is not ashamed to call us brother sister and mother. Cal no man on earth Holy Father (Pope)

Matthew 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

Mark 3:35 For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.

1. Catholics do not regard saints as 'God' nor as demigods.

2. You are correct that God is jealous and wants us to have no God's except for Him. Now you just need to grasp that the Holy Spirit reveals Jesus to us as Lord and that it is perfectly fine to serve, worship and pray to Jesus as He is God the Son.

1 Cor 12:3 Therefore I want you to know that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.

If you do not know Jesus as Lord, from this verse one could argue that you don't know Jesus.

Regarding your verses in Matthew and Mark, you are making a common error of not grasping 'God in flesh'. Verses like this point to God truly placing Himself in flesh on our level. No ''cheating''.

We have had discussions on the trinity on this site, you can find one and discuss further there if you wish. They are lengthy and will derail this thread. I wished only for a short rational chat on it.

 

[KingJ]

Trinity is the most divisive, destructive, and contradictory doctrine in Christianity. I believe it was devised by demons to divide the church. Thousands have been tortured and murdered for rejecting it. The doctrine was devised over a period of about 300 years by the Bishops of Rome. (Not Tertullian) The Protestants, many of whom label Rome and Catholicism as the harlot and/or the beast, simply adopted it into their theology.
Trinity has become a cult within Christianity. Diehard Trinitarians have been in damage control since the doctrine's development. That's why they, "Close the Crash Doors" and shame and shun people....just like pre-trib!

This TRINITY doctrine is responsible for driving millions OUT of Christianity. About half of all Christians today DO NOT believe in the man-made demon devised Trinity!

A teaching that God got some random creation who drew the shortest straw to die for us is more a doctrine of demons over believing He became flesh and died for us.

You are not thinking rationally. You are only showing that you can recite indoctrination.

As for your line about this causing 300 years of war, oh brother, if only the reformation wars were that simple.

 

[Garee]

1. Catholics do not regard saints as 'God' nor as demigods.

2. You are correct that God is jealous and wants us to have no God's except for Him. Now you just need to grasp that the Holy Spirit reveals Jesus to us as Lord and that it is perfectly fine to serve, worship and pray to Jesus as He is God the Son.

1 Cor 12:3 Therefore I want you to know that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.

If you do not know Jesus as Lord, from this verse one could argue that you don't know Jesus.

Regarding your verses in Matthew and Mark, you are making a common error of not grasping 'God in flesh'. Verses like this point to God truly placing Himself in flesh on our level. No ''cheating''.

We have had discussions on the trinity on this site, you can find one and discuss further there if you wish. They are lengthy and will derail this thread. I wished only for a short rational chat on it.

Hi Thanks. .

I would think Catholicism is the only Christian based religion that does seeks after patron saints, his and her disembodied gods .workers with a familiar (family spirit)

Same kind of communication used by Saul when the lord cut of or forms of communication.

Saul consulted a mystic or witch a mediator set between the things of this world and to unseen world.

When she performed the work of calling up the dead legion . She needed a description . Then Saul bowed down and worshiped the dirt

1 Samuel 28:7-25Then said Saul unto his servants, Seek me a woman that hath a familiar spirit, that I may go to her, and enquire of her. And his servants said to him, Behold, there is a woman that hath a familiar spirit at Endor.And Saul disguised himself, and put on other raiment, and he went, and two men with him, and they came to the woman by night: and he said, I pray thee, divine unto me by the familiar spirit, and bring me him up, whom I shall name unto thee.And the woman said unto him, Behold, thou knowest what Saul hath done, how he hath cut off those that have familiar spirits, and the wizards, out of the land: wherefore then layest thou a snare for my life, to cause me to die?;And Saul sware to her by the Lord, saying, As the Lord liveth, there shall no punishment happen to thee for this thing.Then said the woman, Whom shall I bring up unto thee? And he said, Bring me up Samuel.;And when the woman saw Samuel, she cried with a loud voice: and the woman spake to Saul, saying, Why hast thou deceived me? for thou art Saul.And the king said unto her, Be not afraid: for what sawest thou? And the woman said unto Saul, I saw gods ascending out of the earth.And he said unto her, What form is he of? And she said, An old man cometh up; and he is covered with a mantle. And Saul perceived that it was Samuel, and he stooped with his face to the ground, and bowed himself.


In that way be careful how we hear who we say we do .. except by the Holy Spirit working in the believer .