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please show scripture with proper context that says this, I have never found one when I apply proper context
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70 Weeks of Daniel Prophecy - Already Fulfilled or Not?
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please show scripture with proper context that says this, I have never found one when I apply proper context
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wear in the bible does it say the wrath of God is 7 years ???
the first mention of the wrath of God in the book of revelation does not come until chapter 6 during the 6 seal,
another question would be do you not think God could protect you from his wrath, as he has done numerous times in the bible.
the marriage supper of the lamb is not actually mentioned until chapter 19 of revelation wich is at the end of the 7 years so why do you think it is before or during the tribulation?? that is a man-made fabricated theory with no scripture to support it that I can find
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Yes, they were gazing up into heaven as Jesus ascended.
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The church won’t suffer the wrath of God, because we’d all be dead by then, that’s why “the restrainer is removed” (2 Thess. 2:7), “I’ll spare you from the trial,”(Rev. 3:10), “I saw under the altar the souls of those who have been slain for the word of God and for the testimony” (fifth seal, Rev. 6:9)
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how prepared are you for when it doesn't happen the way you think it's supposed to happen
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You are forgetting Enoch and Elijah.
In the readings of the scripture where it talks about the so-called rapture or the readings that you guys use for that talks about the person that's left behind it doesn't say either way that the person who leaves or the person who stays is the Christian in fact both people could be the Christians.
And what happens in your case if you see that your children or grandchildren don't make it are you going to say see you later have fun I'm going and that's it seems fairly selfish of it mentality in that picture
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What I really don't get about the Christians that claim that they're going to go up in the rapture is exactly why. I mean if you say that you're going up in the Rapture because you're persecuted show me in America how we're persecuted. Let's look at the Christians in China they should be going up in you know going up like crazy if it's based on persecution and those Christians that are in the Middle East or Africa they should be going up Bluffton right yet they're not going up at all.
So how can you dare say that you are being persecuted in this day and age in America.
The Jews did not experience being raptured out of Egypt. Yet they were slaves for 400 years in Egypt until Moses came, and God delivered them through Moses out of the land of Egypt. Yet even there what did God deliver him out of and what did God take him to right into 40 years in the desert.
So if you think you're being persecuted you're really walking up the wrong tree on all that business.
Jesus never teaches us to run away from adversity, in fact he teaches us to walk head-on into it.
THE REAL INTERPRETATION THROUGH THE BIBLE OF THE WEEK 70TH - DANIEL 9:v.27 - THE LAST WEEK - ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION
587 B.C. - Judah is conquered by Babylon - Jerusalem and First Temple destroyed; most Jews are exiled to Babylon.
587 - 559 B.C. - The conquer of Judah's kingdom by Babylon lasted from 587 - 559 B.C.,
559 B.C. - Babylon is CONQUERED by Cyrus IN FULFILLMENT Daniel 2:v.39-(Check it). Cyrus's reign lasted from 559-538 B.C.
GOD MOVED KING CYRUS TO REBUILD THE TEMPLE (YEAH, ONLY THE TEMPLE OF GOD, ONLY HIS HOUSE)
559 BC - GOD, yes, GOD, stirred up the spirit of Cyrus king of Persia, that he made a proclamation throughout all his kingdom, and put it also in writing, saying, The Lord GOD of heaven hath given me all the kingdoms of the earth; and He hath charged me to build Him AN HOUSE (A TEMPLE EXCLUSIVELY, that is His house only) at Jerusalem, which is in Judah-Ezra 1:v.1 to 11.
Then the rebuilding of the Temple of Jerusalem is authorized by Cyrus in his 1st year-559 B.C - Ezra 5:v.13 and 6:v.3. Then rose up the chief of the fathers of Judah and Benjamin, and the priests, and the Levites, with all them whose spirit God had raised, to go up to build the house of the Lord which is in Jerusalem. And all they that were about them strengthened their hands with vessels of silver, with gold, with goods, and with beasts, and with precious things, beside all that was willingly offered.
Please, it is important that you understand that the LORD not only commanded the rebuilding of the Temple, but He would also go to monitor its rebuilding by the entire time of the building, i.e. 21 years (21 days - Check it in DANIEL 10:v.13), once the ruler of the Kingdom was a Gentile and he was between GOD and the people of GOD.
DETAIL: Even MICHAEL went there to help the rebuilding of the Temple as was commanded by GOD for to do. But some time later the LORD would go to cease/close the kingdom of Cyrus and hand over the Persian Kingdom to the Greeks- DANIEL 10:v.20-21 and DANIEL 2:v.39-(check it).
Part of the Temple was built in the time of Cyrus, and part in the time of Darius, until the end of the rebuilding. There were many difficulties and even stoppages in rebuilding the Temple, the House of GOD, despite having been commanded by GOD to rebuild it. However, the LORD was monitoring its rebuilding by the entire time of the building, by the way the rebuilding of the Temple finished after 21 years around THE YEAR 516 B.C.
522 B.C. - Darius reigned from year 522-486 B.C.
Captivity of Israel lasted 70 years ---> 587 B.C.- 70 = 517 B.C. and the Temple reconstruction ended in 516 B.C. - Ezra 6:v.15-CJB ou Jewish Torah - This house was finished on the third day of the month Adar, in the SIXTH year of the reign of Daryavesh (Darius) the king. First year of Darius 522 B.C.---> his sixth year - 516 B.C.
Again: Captivity of Israel lasted 70 years, so 587 B.C. - 70 = 517 B.C.
End of the rebuilding of the Temple was in around 516 B.C. according to Scripture quoted above.- Ezra 6:v.15
7 weeks = 49 years-->(End of rebuilding) 516 B.C. - 49 = 467 B.C.
62 weeks = 434 years..---> 467 B.C - 434 B.C = 33 B.C. Until this point 483 years or 69 weeks(62 plus 7 weeks) of prophecy have fulfilled itself LITERALLY, i.e. from year 516 B.C. until year 33 B.C.. THIS IS REAL. THIS IS TRUER.
NOTE: Jesus was born around 4 BC, so there was a gap of around 30 years, from 33 B.C. until JESUS's birth in around year 4B.C. The last week of years-that is the week 70th Daniel 9:v.27 stayed in suspense, I would say the week 70th remained in stand by until this current time and manifestation of the Abomination of Desolation in the midst of the week and until the consumation, until the END of the Devil's world.
Year 1BC - 1AD (year ZERO???) END OF THE OLD TESTAMENT.
26/27 AD - JESUS started his Ministry.
29/30 AD - JESUS was crucified AFTER the week 69 finished in 33 BC as is above described.
2020-2030 AD - The last week 70th Daniel 9:v.27 is WITHIN this decade.
THE LAST WEEK - WEEK 70th DANIEL 9:v.27 - SEQUENCE OF EVENTS
- The Jewish Man Beast of the earth-earth is ISRAEL-Revelation 13:v.11- , will manifest himself in Jerusalem, and he will make an alliance with the Man Gentile Beast of sea, and will give to the Gentile Man Beast of sea his Power, and his Throne, and great Authority-Revelation 13:v.2. Note that the roots of the enthroned Gentile Beast is Babylon; As is written, the Beast of sea is like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion-Babylon-DANIEL 7:v.4-6.
- Why will the esoteric, and kabbalistic, and spiritist false messiah give his Power, and his Throne, and also Great Authority to the Beast man of the sea? What is the intention of the false messiah in this satanic "goodness"? He will even give the COURT to the Gentiles to tread down the holy city for 42 months which is the FIRST half of the last week, week 70th Daniel 9: v.27-Reevelation 11: v.2 and Revelation 13: v.5. Will not this BESTIAL alliance be the establishment of the fifth and last/final Satanic Empire? DANIEL 2:v.41-42? Of course it is.
- Then the COURT of the Temple will be given to the Gentile nations - Revelation 11:v.2. JERUSALEM is trodden for 42 months by the Gentile peoples. The FIRST half of the last week begins - 42 months or 3 years and half.
- ENDING the first half of the last week, the Man Beast of sea left the SATANIC messianic Throne, and the ruthless esoteric, and kabbbalistic, and spiritist false messiah will sit on his throne, the Abomination of Desolation is established and will last 1.260 days plus 30 days, so it will endure 1.290 days. END OF THE DEVIL'S WORLD.
- There will be a gap of 45 days, something like a breath, getting to 1.335 days, the day of the MANIFESTATION/REVELATION/RETURN of the Lord JESUS Christ. END OF THE DISPENSATION OF GRACE, AND THE THIRD HEAVEN IS ESTABLISHED - Revelation 5:v.10 and Matthew 5:v.5.
THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS ESTABLISHED-Luke 20:v.35-36 and Revelation 11:v.15 - IN FACT THE THIRD HEAVEN or THIRD CELESTIAL ENVIRONMENT- 2 COR. 12:v.2.
THE THIRD HEAVEN WILL LAST 1.000 YEARS. - 2 COR. 12:v.2.
May or LORD God bless and keep us, and give us His protection
Amen.
Get ready.
P.S.
If the Trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle
587 B.C. - Judah is conquered by Babylon - Jerusalem and First Temple destroyed; most Jews are exiled to Babylon.
587 - 559 B.C. - The conquer of Judah's kingdom by Babylon lasted from 587 - 559 B.C.,
559 B.C. - Babylon is CONQUERED by Cyrus IN FULFILLMENT Daniel 2:v.39-(Check it). Cyrus's reign lasted from 559-538 B.C.
GOD MOVED KING CYRUS TO REBUILD THE TEMPLE (YEAH, ONLY THE TEMPLE OF GOD, ONLY HIS HOUSE)
559 BC - GOD, yes, GOD, stirred up the spirit of Cyrus king of Persia, that he made a proclamation throughout all his kingdom, and put it also in writing, saying, The Lord GOD of heaven hath given me all the kingdoms of the earth; and He hath charged me to build Him AN HOUSE (A TEMPLE EXCLUSIVELY, that is His house only) at Jerusalem, which is in Judah-Ezra 1:v.1 to 11.
Then the rebuilding of the Temple of Jerusalem is authorized by Cyrus in his 1st year-559 B.C - Ezra 5:v.13 and 6:v.3. Then rose up the chief of the fathers of Judah and Benjamin, and the priests, and the Levites, with all them whose spirit God had raised, to go up to build the house of the Lord which is in Jerusalem. And all they that were about them strengthened their hands with vessels of silver, with gold, with goods, and with beasts, and with precious things, beside all that was willingly offered.
Please, it is important that you understand that the LORD not only commanded the rebuilding of the Temple, but He would also go to monitor its rebuilding by the entire time of the building, i.e. 21 years (21 days - Check it in DANIEL 10:v.13), once the ruler of the Kingdom was a Gentile and he was between GOD and the people of GOD.
DETAIL: Even MICHAEL went there to help the rebuilding of the Temple as was commanded by GOD for to do. But some time later the LORD would go to cease/close the kingdom of Cyrus and hand over the Persian Kingdom to the Greeks- DANIEL 10:v.20-21 and DANIEL 2:v.39-(check it).
Part of the Temple was built in the time of Cyrus, and part in the time of Darius, until the end of the rebuilding. There were many difficulties and even stoppages in rebuilding the Temple, the House of GOD, despite having been commanded by GOD to rebuild it. However, the LORD was monitoring its rebuilding by the entire time of the building, by the way the rebuilding of the Temple finished after 21 years around THE YEAR 516 B.C.
522 B.C. - Darius reigned from year 522-486 B.C.
Captivity of Israel lasted 70 years ---> 587 B.C.- 70 = 517 B.C. and the Temple reconstruction ended in 516 B.C. - Ezra 6:v.15-CJB ou Jewish Torah - This house was finished on the third day of the month Adar, in the SIXTH year of the reign of Daryavesh (Darius) the king. First year of Darius 522 B.C.---> his sixth year - 516 B.C.
Again: Captivity of Israel lasted 70 years, so 587 B.C. - 70 = 517 B.C.
End of the rebuilding of the Temple was in around 516 B.C. according to Scripture quoted above.- Ezra 6:v.15
7 weeks = 49 years-->(End of rebuilding) 516 B.C. - 49 = 467 B.C.
62 weeks = 434 years..---> 467 B.C - 434 B.C = 33 B.C. Until this point 483 years or 69 weeks(62 plus 7 weeks) of prophecy have fulfilled itself LITERALLY, i.e. from year 516 B.C. until year 33 B.C.. THIS IS REAL. THIS IS TRUER.
NOTE: Jesus was born around 4 BC, so there was a gap of around 30 years, from 33 B.C. until JESUS's birth in around year 4B.C. The last week of years-that is the week 70th Daniel 9:v.27 stayed in suspense, I would say the week 70th remained in stand by until this current time and manifestation of the Abomination of Desolation in the midst of the week and until the consumation, until the END of the Devil's world.
Year 1BC - 1AD (year ZERO???) END OF THE OLD TESTAMENT.
26/27 AD - JESUS started his Ministry.
29/30 AD - JESUS was crucified AFTER the week 69 finished in 33 BC as is above described.
2020-2030 AD - The last week 70th Daniel 9:v.27 is WITHIN this decade.
THE LAST WEEK - WEEK 70th DANIEL 9:v.27 - SEQUENCE OF EVENTS
- The Jewish Man Beast of the earth-earth is ISRAEL-Revelation 13:v.11- , will manifest himself in Jerusalem, and he will make an alliance with the Man Gentile Beast of sea, and will give to the Gentile Man Beast of sea his Power, and his Throne, and great Authority-Revelation 13:v.2. Note that the roots of the enthroned Gentile Beast is Babylon; As is written, the Beast of sea is like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion-Babylon-DANIEL 7:v.4-6.
- Why will the esoteric, and kabbalistic, and spiritist false messiah give his Power, and his Throne, and also Great Authority to the Beast man of the sea? What is the intention of the false messiah in this satanic "goodness"? He will even give the COURT to the Gentiles to tread down the holy city for 42 months which is the FIRST half of the last week, week 70th Daniel 9: v.27-Reevelation 11: v.2 and Revelation 13: v.5. Will not this BESTIAL alliance be the establishment of the fifth and last/final Satanic Empire? DANIEL 2:v.41-42? Of course it is.
- Then the COURT of the Temple will be given to the Gentile nations - Revelation 11:v.2. JERUSALEM is trodden for 42 months by the Gentile peoples. The FIRST half of the last week begins - 42 months or 3 years and half.
- ENDING the first half of the last week, the Man Beast of sea left the SATANIC messianic Throne, and the ruthless esoteric, and kabbbalistic, and spiritist false messiah will sit on his throne, the Abomination of Desolation is established and will last 1.260 days plus 30 days, so it will endure 1.290 days. END OF THE DEVIL'S WORLD.
- There will be a gap of 45 days, something like a breath, getting to 1.335 days, the day of the MANIFESTATION/REVELATION/RETURN of the Lord JESUS Christ. END OF THE DISPENSATION OF GRACE, AND THE THIRD HEAVEN IS ESTABLISHED - Revelation 5:v.10 and Matthew 5:v.5.
THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS ESTABLISHED-Luke 20:v.35-36 and Revelation 11:v.15 - IN FACT THE THIRD HEAVEN or THIRD CELESTIAL ENVIRONMENT- 2 COR. 12:v.2.
THE THIRD HEAVEN WILL LAST 1.000 YEARS. - 2 COR. 12:v.2.
May or LORD God bless and keep us, and give us His protection
Amen.
Get ready.
P.S.
If the Trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle
@ Oseas. You say that You have the Real interpretation of the 70 weeks of Daniel. That comment sends a red flag up. You're suggesting that no one else does. And that no one else does. The last part about the 1000 yr reign of christ is questionable.
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The term "third heaven" is indeed puzzling. One possibility is that there're three levels in heaven: God, YAWH, His assembly - aka "sons of God", plural Elohim, then the angels, malakim. The first heaven is for the angels, who are merely messengers; the second is for the sons of God, those are the real bad guys who share the same nature and essence with God as divine beings, and yet they're with Satan and they've corrupted mankind (See Gen. 6:2, Job 1:6, Psalm 82:6-8), and they'll all be thrown into the Lake of Fire; then there's the third heaven where Lord Jesus is seated at the right hand of God to judge all these "sons of God", and we'll join Him as co-heirs of the kingdom. This is just based on my understanding of the OT setting.
According to you the third heaven will last 1000 years. The 2 Corinthians 2 passage simply mentions the third heaven. But nothing about the 1000 yrs. Reign of Christ. And That will take place here on earth.
@ Bill -- Jesus Christ is the One who will be taking all born-again believers up to meet Him in the air. It's not something anyone is asking or begging Him to do. It will happen in the twinkling of an eye and only God the Father knows whe it will happen.
It sounds like you're upset with pre-trib rapture people.
The most important aspect would be whether or not a person is born-again. A person could be hit by a car and die tomorrow. Or try a drug for the first time and it would kill him. So it's more important to make sure of your own salvation.
Bill --I could ask you the same question.. it will happen when God says it will.
Greetings in Christ JESUS ou Lord
Regarding the questionable part, where I said that the third heaven will last for 1000 years, I said so interpreting the Scriptures and making an analogy about times "which the Father hath put in his own power", as said our Lord JESUS around 2,000 years ago-Acts 1:7.
1st - When the Father by His own power established the Old Testament with the people of Israel after around 2,500 years after Adam, I mean the Law and the Prophets, this Covenant lasted around 1,500 years, I mean from Moses until John the Baptist, as said JESUS - Matthew 11:13.
2nd - 2,000 years ago, the Father by His own power established through JESUS the New Testament with the whole World-with Gentile peoples and Jewish people(John 3:16), that is, around 4,000 years after Adam, so from Adam until today we can say that have passed around 6,000 years. It means that our GOD, GOD the Father, has already worked his 6 Days as a whole. Remember that our Lord JESUS said 2,000 ago,according John 5:17 : My Father worketh hitherto, and I work; this assertion was 2,000 years ago, and 4000 years after Adam.
3rd - The third heaven, say, the next World - Luke 20:35-36(check it)-, will established by our Lord JESUS Christ, this current period from 6,000 years until 7,000 years belongs to JESUS exclusively, and it is He who will establish His Kingdom in this seventh and last Day, or seventh and last millennium, as He said: All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth - Matthew 28:18. And Revelation 11:15-18 reveal:
15 ... The kingdoms OF THIS WORLD are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before GOD on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped GOD,
17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
18 And the nations were angry, and thy WRATH is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be Judged, and that thou should give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth.
And Paul Apostle porphesied, saying: 1 Corinthians 15:24-27
24 The END cometh, when He shall have delivered up the kingdom to GOD, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For He must reign, till He hath put all enemies under His feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
27 For He hath put all things under His feet. But when He saith all things are put under Him, it is manifest that He is excepted, which did put all things under Him.
Revelation 20:4
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and Judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the Word of GOD, and which had not worshipped the Beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
May our Lord GOD bless and keep us, and give us His protection
Amen
Think I have explained that in my post above according the Holy Scriptures.
Yes, according the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD, self-executing.
The Word is GOD, understand? The Word is from everlasting to everlasting. Everything is under the command of the Word, the Word is GOD, and the Word is in control of all things, nothing random happens, understand?
The Word is self-executing in the space and in time, like a Clock, what is writing to happen now, and from now on, and for everlasting time, it is already written, and will happen according GOD's time predetermined, the Word is self-executing, the Word is GOD. Great mystery.
Greetings,
I'd like to hear some rejoicing about some writing ...
and tell me please [anyone] if there is anything better than knowing that your name is written...
in the Book of Life?
Bless you ....><>
Then they that feared the Lord spake often one to another: and the Lord hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before Him for them that feared the Lord, and that thought upon His name.
Malachi 3:16
I'd like to hear some rejoicing about some writing ...
and tell me please [anyone] if there is anything better than knowing that your name is written...
in the Book of Life?
Bless you ....><>
Then they that feared the Lord spake often one to another: and the Lord hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before Him for them that feared the Lord, and that thought upon His name.
Malachi 3:16
