Bible says God is not a man! how does Jesus fit in since He is said to be God in human form?
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Jesus the man does not exist anymore but Jesus the spirit exits now and before creation. Now, that's interesting!
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Wow! Where does your bilbe say that?! My bible says
1 Timothy 2:4-6 (CJB)
4 He wants all humanity to be delivered and come to full knowledge of the truth. 5 For God is one;a]">[a] and there is but one Mediator between God and humanity, Yeshua the Messiah, himself human, 6 who gave himself as a ransom on behalf of all, thus providing testimony to God’s purpose at just the right time.
1 Timothy 2:4-6 (KJV)
4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
6 Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
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I probably said that wrong. Jesus is not man now like he was when he was on earth, before his Crucifixion. It's a mystery that he was fully human then and at the same time fully God. We all know he is in heaven but ,he exist now in a glorified body. He is not flesh and Bone as before but glorified and scripture does indicate that he is still Man and God. It is still a mystery. Colossians 2:9 When we are glorified in the presence of God, we too will still be like man, though we will be glorified and spirit at the same time ( not flesh and blood), much like Jesus appeared in the Upper Room and the doors were closed!
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Ah..I see....Yes He does have his glorified body...The same kind of body we will have in heaven....He's still human as we will still be human in heaven.... It's kind of cool...Being 100% man He is 100% for us, being God Heis 100% for God. The perfect mediator.
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Like I always answer when asked what heaven is like.....I say, a place where there are no impossibilities!
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And that's the truth! We're citizens of heaven now....Believe the unbelievable, and receive the impossible
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OneGodBeliever:
You presented an excellent question in the thread title:
"Bible says God is not a man! how does Jesus fit in since He is said to be God in human form?"
Of course the answer to it is logical when one pays attention to scripture.
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OneGodBeliever:There is a lot about Jesus and Christianity in history. Some historians speculate Jesus was normal person who was by time made into a God. Lot of historians even deny Jesus existed. People even attribute Christianity to paganism. Some similarities are in this pic.
There is a problem with your similarities. With the exception of Jesus Christ, all of the examples in your above attachment are taken from myth--meaning they were invented by the various religious that believed in them. None of them existed in real life. Jesus Christ, on the other hand, is a historical person.
There is evidence in the writings of even pagan historians (example, the writings of Roman Historian Cornelius Tacitus and the writings of Pliny The Younger) both of whom attest to the fact that Jesus Christ existed outside the Bible. It was not their intention to confirm Jesus' historicity, but that's what they ended up doing when they mentioned "Christus" and his Christian followers in their historical writings.
So your comment that "Lot of historians even deny Jesus existed," does not count for much. The denials of some historians cannot change the reality that the Jesus Christ of the Bible was indeed a historical figure.
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Being a historical figure or that most all religions acknowledging Jesus existence doesn't mean much to me. Being Born Again and personally experiencing Jesus is what seals the deal for me!
I know the verse you're talking about, I'm not going to be an apologist here. All I'll say is that if that's what you're taking away from the bible, then you're climbing up the wrong tree.
It all comes down to how you've been taught how to view the Bible, does anyone know the right way to understand the Bible? By the power of the spirit, they say. Well there are many spirit's. What spirit are you reading it in?
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I would suggest...
1 John 4:2
And I also think that this would help the thread a little too. For those that think he is not man even after resurrection.
Luke 24:39
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God is not a man........(Numbers 23:19) The word "man" here does not mean human being as compared to the "man" in Genesis when God said "let us make man in our image......" The word "man" in Genesis means "human being". In numbers it is referring to man as a "male". God is not a male as there is no male or female in the Kingdom of God.
Jesus today is not a "male", but he is a "man"
Jesus today is not a "male", but he is a "man"
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I really don't understand what point your trying to make. There is not a argument to even argue about if he is male or not. Scripture States it pretty clear. He is the Son of God, not the daughter of God and if he was neither it would be just God.. Matthew 3:17
The fact that Jesus is truly and fully human is clear from the fact that he has a human body (Luke 24:39), a human mind (Luke 2:52), and a human soul (Matthew 26:38). Jesus does not just look like a man. He does not just have some aspects of what is essential for true humanity but not others. Rather, he possess full humanity.
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It would help if you provide scripture in context to your question. As it is, we can only guess at your reference and thus sending us off to look for it at Bible Gateway's search engine.
Numbers 23:18 And he took up his parable, and said, Rise up, Balak, and hear; hearken unto me, thou son of Zippor: 19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good? 20 Behold, I have received commandment to bless: and he hath blessed; and I cannot reverse it.
If the reference above is where you are basing your question from, then read it in context of all that is said in that verse, before and afterwards. What is the point being made in His words?
I read that God is not like sinful man that He would lie or change His mind after speaking or doing something. So God was not saying that He was not a man, but in context, He was not as fallen man so those who hear Him & read His words would now that His word shall go forth and accomplish what He has sent it out to do.
Isaiah 55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
There are scripture that describes God as a man since we were created in His image. Indeed, Jesus said that Abraham saw Him in His day and Moses had written of the Son of God being seen by men before His incarnation.
John 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. 57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? 58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. 59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.
Jesus was almost stoned to death for claiming to be God; the One that Abraham had seen in His day.
Genesis 18:1And the Lord appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day; 2 And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground, 3 And said, My Lord, if now I have found favour in thy sight, pass not away, I pray thee, from thy servant:
Even Jacob wrestled with Jesus before His incarnation.
Genesis 32:24 And Jacob was left alone; and there wrestled a man with him until the breaking of the day. 25 And when he saw that he prevailed not against him, he touched the hollow of his thigh; and the hollow of Jacob's thigh was out of joint, as he wrestled with him. 26 And he said, Let me go, for the day breaketh. And he said, I will not let thee go, except thou bless me. 27 And he said unto him, What is thy name? And he said, Jacob. 28 And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed. 29 And Jacob asked him, and said, Tell me, I pray thee, thy name. And he said, Wherefore is it that thou dost ask after my name? And he blessed him there. 30 And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.
So if you had read the scripture in the KJV with His wisdom, you would have been able to discern that Numbers 23:19 was just giving assurance to believers that God was not like sinful men in lying or changing his mind after giving His word.
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Although your application of Numbers 23:19 is correct, your application of John 4:24 is not correct since man was created in God's image.
John 4:24 in context is about Jesus answering the Samaritan woman at the well about where to worship God at; the mountains or in Jerusalem; and Jesus was meaning by "God is a Spirit" to testify to the omnipresence of God that He is "now" no longer confined to a singular place of worship so that believers can come to God the Father to worship Him any where.
How? Jesus gives the how later on.
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
So no matter where the believer is, he or she can come to God the Father in worship by coming to the Son in honoring the Son by testifying of the Son in seeking His glory in worship and by Him, honor & glorify God the Father in worship as well.
John 5:22 For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: 23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.
That is the mind of Christ we are to have in worship and that is the "obedience" Paul was talking about in the only way we are to glorify God the Father by in worship.
Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. 12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. 13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
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Not when our God has risen from the dead; the Hindus cannot say that about themselves. If Christ has not risen, there would be no Christianity. No other religion can top that, no matter how much similarities they claim Christianity as a rip off of.
1 Corinthians 15:11 Therefore whether it were I or they, so we preach, and so ye believed. 12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead? 13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen: 14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain. 15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not. 16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised: 17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. 18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished. 19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable. 20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. 21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. 24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
Click on the link below entitled "Three Hour Period of Darkness at Jesus's Crucifixion" below and see the extrabiblical evidence in secular history testifying to the unexplained darkness at His crucifixion. Something no religion can lay claim to.
Three Hour Period of Darkness at Jesus's Crucifixion
A comment -- God is referred as a He.
Jesus Christ was Always deity -- He became a Jewish man at birth -- still deity -- ascended back to heaven to sit at the right hand of God the Father.
As has already been mentioned, but I'll repeat John 14:6 Jesus is telling mankind that "I am the way, the truth and the life, no man comes to the Father but by Me." that's very specific.
Jesus Christ was Always deity -- He became a Jewish man at birth -- still deity -- ascended back to heaven to sit at the right hand of God the Father.
As has already been mentioned, but I'll repeat John 14:6 Jesus is telling mankind that "I am the way, the truth and the life, no man comes to the Father but by Me." that's very specific.
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1Co 8:5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)
1Co 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
Essentially Our God and The God of Christ is The Father
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The Lord of Woman is Man, The Lord of Man is Our Lord which is Christ, The Lord of Christ is The Lord which is God.
1Co 8:5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)
1Co 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
Essentially Our God and The God of Christ is The Father
OR
The Lord of Woman is Man, The Lord of Man is Our Lord which is Christ, The Lord of Christ is The Lord which is God.
