Blasphemous Thoughts - A Testimony - Part 1

[Kit Carson]

Hi Peace Seeker:

You will be strong now. You will be able to recognize many things, that is a reward of fighting the spiritual war.

Yep, I went through some of that, I could be in the middle of a prayer or trying to just talk to God and there would be those thoughts just out of the blue.

I knew what and where they were coming from, but yes they can cause great distress and concern. Because you fear you did allow yourself to do something stupid. But actually we do not, it is just using our own fear against us. A highly skilled mental game conducted by Satan.

Even now sometimes a sneak attack comes out of the blue, I can be trying to talk to God and it will be a powerful attack, just deny God and curse him, look he is not meeting your expectations or some such nonsense.

So even when you win the war, that guy Satan still tries a sneak attack time to time.

Hard to put into words for me, but I understand, and it will make you strong. You will now instantly recognize untruths and when Satan attacks you can just say go away and push it away. It becomes just like shooing away a fly.

A spiritual war will increase your faith by many ways. It beyond any doubt confirms the spiritual world and it becomes impossible to yield to doubt or question. Except for those occasional sneak attacks but they amount to nothing and once fully understood only serve to increase your faith.

So Satan loses, and God in his way gains his Glory. Another battle won. !!!!

Yes I understand, it got to the point at one time it would be in the middle of a prayer , there would be Satan and demand that I deny God. Right in my face. He gave up being nice. Thing is by his presence he only proved the fact he was the problem .

Hard to put into word how the spiritual war is at times.

So I will simply say Thanks to our Father in Heaven, the Glory be yours for the revelation to another in the truth of all that is.


Kit

 

[Peace Seeker]

Hi Peace Seeker:

You will be strong now. You will be able to recognize many things, that is a reward of fighting the spiritual war.

Hi Kit!
While the concept of there being a reward in spiritual warfare doesn't usually register in the thick of the battle, there definitely is, as you say, a reward in it. Even if the result is nothing more than a closer walk with the Lord.

But of course, there is more to it than that. We learn to discern, and that weapon becomes stronger as we gain experience to see the ordeal for what it is. 2 Corinthians 2:11 comes to mind.
Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.

Yep, I went through some of that, I could be in the middle of a prayer or trying to just talk to God and there would be those thoughts just out of the blue.

I know all about it, brother! They literally do come right out of the blue! They can interrupt your thoughts with ease! But praise be to God He gives us the ability to see thought them, otherwise what a horrible ordeal it would be.

I knew what and where they were coming from, but yes they can cause great distress and concern. Because you fear you did allow yourself to do something stupid. But actually we do not, it is just using our own fear against us. A highly skilled mental game conducted by Satan.

You really know what you're talking about here! I have learned so much about how the enemy operates, and that is definitely one aspect of his attack. Make you fear and ask yourself, "did I just say that?" A highly skilled mental game indeed, the likes of which one cannot understand unless he experiences it firsthand.

Even now sometimes a sneak attack comes out of the blue, I can be trying to talk to God and it will be a powerful attack, just deny God and curse him, look he is not meeting your expectations or some such nonsense.

Yup, the accuser in action!! He is very good at lying and making it (almost) believable.

So even when you win the war, that guy Satan still tries a sneak attack time to time.

Absolutely, and Luke 4:13 confirms what we already know, that he checks in now and again, to see if you're still wearing your armor, always looking for another opportunity to re-attack.

Hard to put into words for me, but I understand, and it will make you strong. You will now instantly recognize untruths and when Satan attacks you can just say go away and push it away. It becomes just like shooing away a fly.

For the most part yes. Other times the attacks can be so intense that only crying out to God will suffice. And I think that's the whole point, leaning on and trusting God. He never gives us more than we can handle, and His power will show up in force when we are momentarily weak.

A spiritual war will increase your faith by many ways. It beyond any doubt confirms the spiritual world and it becomes impossible to yield to doubt or question. Except for those occasional sneak attacks but they amount to nothing and once fully understood only serve to increase your faith. So Satan loses, and God in his way gains his Glory. Another battle won. !!!!

Not that I needed confirmation of the spiritual world, but boy does it ever confirm it!! And yes, my faith has increased, so Satan's strategy, for all it's scariness, ultimately backfired because I am closer to - not further from - God than I ever was! Praise God for the victory!!

Yes I understand, it got to the point at one time it would be in the middle of a prayer , there would be Satan and demand that I deny God. Right in my face. He gave up being nice. Thing is by his presence he only proved the fact he was the problem .

Yeah, the evil little man doesn't play nice, he can be very vicious. You know what, we know the difference between good and evil, and we know Satan is evil. But when we are staring it straight in the face, it's a real eye-opener how deep his evil is!

I think Satan can't help himself with his evil, so he gives himself away and it becomes obvious that he's the problem. At times I wanted to just laugh and say, "do you really expect me to believe I would say such things about my blessed Savior?"

Hard to put into word how the spiritual war is at times.

Yup! You have to be there to understand it.

So I will simply say Thanks to our Father in Heaven, the Glory be yours for the revelation to another in the truth of all that is.


Kit

Amen! And thanks for your post, it really lifted my spirit!

 

[skyler]

If anyone needs to talk about any of this with someone who has been through it feel free to email me puma_eclipse@ yahoo.com

 

[steflou64]

Many thanks Peace Seeker! I just posted something on this very same thing under "counseling" today. I have been bombarded with the same type of thoughts since looking at/printing something I should have not (was not thinking). A lady whose church I go to says when the toughts come "reject in the name of Jesus and send back to the sender-let it slap him 7 times and let the angel of the Lord smite the sender in Jesus name". Thanks a million for posting this-it describes my situation exactly!:thumbs_up

 

[Strypes]

Every time a blasphemous thought comes, use it as a reminder to immediately exalt the Lord by saying such things as:

Lord, you are good and do good. You are pure and holy; perfect in all your ways. You are worthy of all honor and praise. You are wise, generous, patient, kind, loving and forgiving. On the cross the Holy Son of God swapped places with me. You have removed my sin and given me Christ’s sinlessness. I am now “in Christ,” completely covered by his holiness, perfection and spiritual beauty. I praise you for being all-knowing. You know that the lies shouting in my head are not mine. My real thoughts are the opposite. I love you. I praise you. I adore you. I delight in you.

Exactly!

I am reminded of a couple of things regarding this battle of the mind...

One is a song by Casting Crowns, "Courageous" The lyric is "in the war of the mind I will take my stand" Awesome song..

The second is the testimony of Jim Caviezel, the actor who portrayed Jesus in "The Passion of The Christ". He said that he, while literally hanging on the cross, was filled with blasphemies. A friend gave him a set of headphones (and climbed up and put them on his head for him) and he listened to a Michael W. Smith praise CD.

The best response to wicked thoughts is to reject them and fill your mind with Praise!

 

[steflou64]

The prayer the lady from counseling told me to pray today is-"with the authority the Lord has given me you spirits of accuser of the brethern and endless geneology that ministers questions I bind you with chains and fetter of iron in the name of the Lord Jesus and cast you into the abyss Thank you father for giving me the mind of Christ. Let the mind of Christ now overflow in me".

 

[Strypes]

The prayer the lady from counseling told me to pray today is-"with the authority the Lord has given me you spirits of accuser of the brethern and endless geneology that ministers questions I bind you with chains and fetter of iron in the name of the Lord Jesus and cast you into the abyss Thank you father for giving me the mind of Christ. Let the mind of Christ now overflow in me".

I responded to you in your other thread ... http://www.talkjesus.com/counseling/44772-help-unwanted-blasphemous-thoughts.html#post220875

 

[steflou64]

What do you do when the blasphemous thoughts come and you are trying to sing praises? I went to church tonight and was attacked in my mind after a while so I just stopped singing!

 

[rickygtz]

For those who are suffering with this OCD Blasphemous toughts, I have a questions, have anyone falsely tried to speak in tongues, imitated or pretended to have the gift of tongues. I did this before, and don't know if this trigger it. Please let me know. My electronic mai is google account

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[His Grace]

Thanks Peace Seeker for this marvelous sharings which is of great help to me.

God Bless
In His Grace

 

[Shutterbug]

Good afternoon Peace Seeker. You raised an excellent topic to which Satan really has only one reply: "Nah, God didn't really mean any of that". It's the same logic posed to Eve. I have on many occasions let my anger get the better of me and the air in the cab of my truck turns pretty blue sometimes. After a few moments when saner thoughts prevail, "John, you really can't say that stuff". Continually wounding the Holy Spirit is a one-way ticket to spiritual suicide. We really need to consider that Satan has a simple agenda. We have to turn away from him and turn to Jesus with sincere hearts and desire his thoughts instead. Phil 4:8. Cheers, John

 

[Noma]

Thank you for this, it's really helpful.I suffer from such attacks from the devil. He tries to deceive me and make me doubt my salvation.

I kind of liken the attacks to having obsessive compulsive thoughts. I'm so glad I came across your thread, it's really encouraging and helpful.

 

[rickygtz]

All the praise and Glory to the God, the Lord Jesus Christ , after almost 3 years of severe mental attacks, OCD, opression , anxiety , insomnia, depression, taking pills, and condemnation feelings about had commited the unpardonable sin, the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, Jesus had set me free. And HE can do it for you.

Check my website, and if I can help on anything, let me know




In Christ Jesus

Brother Ricardo

 

[Mommyto4]

Hello peace seeker! I am so glad I read you post! I have also had the same blastphemous thoughts as you. I have been saved since I was a child. Being a Christian I would have never thought such thoughts could enter my head. At first I felt responsible for the thoughts.I have never had this happen to me before. Now I have them a lot less then I used to, but I still have days like today it gets me down and depressed and wonder what is wrong with me. Most days I can ignore the thoughts. I am so glad I came up on your post. Will you pray for me so that I may too have total victory over this? Thank you so much!!! God bless!!

 

[LarryCanary83]

i myself am going through the samething and the voice will say the holy spirit is satan. demonic. hates me. jesus has me fooled. jesus and Lucifer are brothers. ect. the voices started in 2011. it all started when i was always afraid to even guess what the unpardonable sin was. and at that time i was doubting my salvation i was going to this church that spoke in tongues and i didnt. and one member told me i wasnt saved because i didnt speak in tongues

any how i really have been in fear im going to hell

 

[Thiscrosshurts]

i myself am going through the samething and the voice will say the holy spirit is satan. demonic. hates me. jesus has me fooled. jesus and Lucifer are brothers.

Don't you find it odd that unbelievers don't have that problem.
I mean when I ask them why they don't believe they all have some excuse but I have never heard"because the voices told me".
Is it possible that it is easier to paddle with the current than against it?

 

[Dave M]

Man I needed this thread thanks Peace maker!!

 

[Florita]

Thank you

I am posting this testimony of the spiritual battle I have been in, because I have noticed that some people are concerned about blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. I don't know if anyone would even be interested in my testimony on this, because for one thing it will probably end up being too long to sit and read all the way through. But in case you are interested, I will be telling of my experiences with the hope that it will help you to cope with and have victory over it, without all the trial and error I went through.

Chad has some excellent posts on the subject and they do a great job of explaining what it is and isn't, but they don't elaborate on the tactics of the devil relating to the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit and how to overcome the attacks.

So what follows here is my personal, real-life account of an 8 week war (and counting?) with the devil and his attempts to :

1) make me believe I have committed blasphemy of the Holy Spirit 2) make me doubt my salvation 3) make me doubt God's love for me 4) make me feel guilty beyond hope 5) make me believe his thoughts WERE MY THOUGHTS 6) make me lose my sanity

Throughout this ordeal God has been revealing scriptures to me, among the many others things that have happened, and the one that stands out is :

2 Corinthians 1:3-7 Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of compassion and the God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our troubles, so that we can comfort those in any trouble with the comfort we ourselves receive from God. For just as we share abundantly in the sufferings of Christ, so also our comfort abounds through Christ. If we are distressed, it is for your comfort and salvation; if we are comforted, it is for your comfort, which produces in you patient endurance of the same sufferings we suffer. And our hope for you is firm, because we know that just as you share in our sufferings, so also you share in our comfort.

It is my fervent hope that all who read this and can relate to it, will take comfort in this post, like the God of all comfort has given so abundantly to me!!

So here it is now, my testimony :

For the last 8 weeks I have had continuous attacks from satan, who has been trying to put filthy, blasphemous thoughts about the Holy Spirit into my mind. They are the most vile and horrifying thoughts you could possibly imagine. At the beginning they absolutely horrified me and caused me no end of distress, to put it mildly!

And last but not least, he was trying his absolute best to convince me that all those thoughts WERE MY THOUGHTS, because he knows how much torment that can cause to a believer in Christ.

Here is what I have discovered through 8 weeks of doing spiritual warfare with satan : he is able to plant thoughts in your head that are indistinguishable from your own! Not only that, he is able to literally finish sentences for you!

I discovered that the enemy’s thoughts blend in with my own. At first I was unable to tell where my thoughts ended and Satan’s began. In a split second he can finish my own thought with a swear word.

These thoughts made me feel for sure that I did the unpardonable sin and was now therefore totally lost, un-redeemable and without hope for salvation..

Now, before I continue, I want everyone to know that what I have been going through is not at all uncommon. We read in

1 Corinthians 10:13 :
New International Version (NIV)

13 No temptation has overtaken you except what is common to mankind. And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can endure it.

And perhaps some think what is meant here is that we all have temptations about similar mundane things, like our finances, marriage struggles, losing our job, health problems, etc. But unless you have experienced a barrage of blasphemous thoughts from satan, you would not believe the above verse applies to that kind of situation.

After all, you would suppose, what kind of Christian would have thoughts like that? Thoughts so horrible that I wouldn't repeat them if I could. Thoughts that could seemingly only come from the most reprobate and evil mind.

That's what satan was trying desperately to make me believe, that this thing was only happening to ME, that it couldn't POSSIBLY happen to a "real" Christian.

He was working overtime to make me believe that no one was as horrible as me, because anyone thinking such thoughts must be the worst person on the face of the earth. And did I really believe a Christian could be having thoughts such as these? Therefore I mustn't be a Christian.

These are some of the things I had to battle and that initially tormented me so much.

And just to clarify, the evil thoughts weren't conscious decisions I just made out of the blue to purposely insult, grieve, malign or blaspheme God, etc.
I then, as I do now, have no desire whatsoever to say, think or do anything negative towards God, towards anyone in the Godhead. The wicked thoughts that came into my mind were VERY FAST AND RANDOM - unexpected , unplanned, etc. And as fast as I could possibly do so, I would stop the thought and take it into captivity in obedience to
2 Corinthians 10:4-6:
For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds, casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ, and being ready to punish all disobedience when your obedience is fulfilled.

At the beginning, when the thought attacks first started, I was so frightened, because as a Christian I knew that having a horrible thought against the Holy Spirit would never be forgiven, and is in fact the only one mentioned in the bible as not being forgiven.

In fact I would literally shriek inside with horror and like I said earlier, be extremely grieved, upset, and mortified at such thoughts. Again I say, they were incredibly quick flashes of horrible thoughts, directed at the Holy Spirit. I did not sit there and say to myself anything remotely along the lines of : " I hate God, so I think I'll have some fun and do some blaspheming", if you know what I mean.

I am now going to give you just a little info about how I was attempting to stop the attacks, why that failed miserably, and what I finally figured out after listening to God and doing it His way.

If you ever find yourself , or know of someone else in the situation I was in, you will know what to do and it will save you a lot of ongoing torment.

Because I hated those thoughts I did my very best to stop them in their tracks as soon as I could - casting down imaginations, taking every thought into captivity, etc.
I rebuked satan in Jesus' name many times, I bound satan in Jesus' name many times, I listened to praise music all day long, etc.

But the attacks kept coming at me, over and over. It was hard to sleep, hard to function in the day and very distracting from serving and looking solely upon the Lord, which is what I wanted to do.

THIS IS IMPORTANT : The reason my efforts to stop the attacks didn't work was because I was trying to fight a spiritual battle with my FLESH.

Not only that, but because of the way the human mind works, the act of trying to stop a thought, or not remember it or think of it, GUARANTEES you will do it!! Our natural reaction would be to try and stop and silence the thought. Trust me, no one would want such thoughts in their head about their mother, never mind God in the person of The Holy Spirit!!!

But I repeat, if you are having those thought attacks, you will heap even more misery upon yourself by trying to combat them by simply sheer force of will. The goal must never be the avoidance of blasphemous thoughts. The harder we try to avoid them, the worse they will get.
The only way to combat them is by doing hardcore spiritual battle.

Ephesians 6:11-18 11
Put on the full armor of God, that you may be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil. 12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. 13 Therefore, take up the full armor of God, that you may be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.
14 Stand firm therefore, having girded your loins with truth, and having put on the breastplate of righteousness, 15 and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace; 16 in addition to all, taking up the shield of faith with which you will be able to extinguish all the flaming missiles of the evil one. 17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. 18 With all prayer and petition pray at all times in the Spirit...

Taking up the shield of faith and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God, is CRUCIAL. You need to fight spirit by Spirit. There are numerous bible verses that tell us who we are in Christ, what we can expect from Him, etc. And we must wield these passages like a sword in order to defeat the enemy.

Jesus stopped satan's attacks against Him in the wilderness by QUOTING SCRIPTURE. We must do the same.

The word of God - the sword of the Spirit - tells us in

Philippians 4:7
The peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus. Amen!

Believing in and using verses like this one is one of the weapons you need. Satan cannot overpower your mind, no matter how convincing he is to the contrary!! And make no mistake, he is very convincing!!
If satan seems to be overpowering your mind, you must pray and believe that God WILL guard it. He cannot lie.

2 Timothy 4:18
18 And the Lord will deliver me from every evil work and preserve me for His heavenly kingdom. To Him be glory forever and ever. Amen!

If being bombarded by a howitzer of blasphemous thoughts is not AN EVIL WORK, I don't know what is!!!

Therefore, this scripture assures us that the Lord will deliver us from EVERY evil work. Trusting in God and His incredible power and love for you is essential to gaining the victory that Christ has given you.

More spiritual battle verses :

Psalms 46:1God is our refuge and strength, an ever-present help in trouble.

Proverbs 18:10 The name of the lord is a strong tower, the righteous run into it and the are safe"

Joshua1:9 Be strong of good courage; do not be afraid, nor be dismayed, for the Lord your God is with you wherever you go.

Colossians 2:15New International Version (NIV)

15 And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross.


We must keep our eyes on Jesus at all times, and not let satan's thoughts distract us and distress us. When Peter took his eyes off the Lord and instead looked at the waves for a brief second, he started to lose faith and sink into the sea that he had moments before been walking on.

No matter what scary distractions the devil throws at you, keep your focus on Jesus.

Unwanted thoughts are simply a form of temptation, and all Christians are tempted.

Calmly address the devil, saying something like, “In the name of Jesus I rebuke you. No matter what lies and filth you put into my head, Jesus defeated you and I belong to Jesus, and in Him there is no condemnation in me..”

Romans 8:1New International Version (NIV)

Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.

1 Corinthians 15:57
But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

Psalm 27:1
1The LORD is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear?the LORD is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?

Romans 8:37-39
37Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.38For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,39Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.


I will leave it that regarding scriptures. There are so many more, the point of which is, we have nothing to fear from unwanted blasphemous attacks.

We must stubbornly resist the pressure to surrender to the enemy's lies, whether it be false condemnation or believing that we are responsible for thoughts we do not want.

Don’t waste your resources getting sidetracked into self-examination or fighting thoughts or feelings. No matter how real and scary they seem, they are just cardboard cut-outs.

The plan of the devil with these thoughts is to try to sabotage our relationship with God. He wants us so fixated on trying to fight unwanted blasphemous thoughts and so foolishly convinced that they render us repulsive to God, that we misinterpret our Lord’s every expression of love for us.

The devil wants us to push God away through being duped into wrongly supposing that ugly thoughts render us unacceptable to the God who is head over heels in love with us.

Unwanted thoughts, no matter how repulsive, are merely pesky flies that refuse to be shooed away.

So in summary, satan putting blasphemous thoughts into the minds of Christians is not unusual or uncommon.

We must recognize that no negative thought is from God. They are a deception from the father of lies, who is a murderer, thief and destroyer.

We must focus on JESUS, not satan or his attacks. NO MATTER WHAT, focus on Jesus and never forget that He will never forsake you or let the enemy harm you. Jesus is the Good Shepherd who lays down His life for His sheep. No wolf or roaring lion will take you out of His hands!!!

Jesus has defeated satan and overcome the world. All authority is given to Him in heaven and earth. What can satan do to you? What can HIS thoughts do to you? He is a weak and defeated enemy that plays on our insecurities and weaknesses, but ultimately is a paper tiger doing shadow puppets on the wall to try and scare us.

I was in utter turmoil when the thoughts first started, because I had never experienced them before. And as I said, they are SO REAL and so INDISTINGUISHABLE from your own.

But I am telling you this testimony so you don't have to have any turmoil if it happens to YOU. You will know what it is that is happening to you, why it is, and what you can do about it. Just ignore the devil, for it makes his day when he gets to you and causes you grief.
Resist him and he will FLEE.

In part 2 I will talk about some great Christians that have gone through the very thing I have talked about. And if you ever get these attacks, know that you will be in some great company!! :wink:


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I'm glad to have read your testimony. I suffered the same and it almost crushed me. I got so scared and asked God for help. I had no intention to think of blasphemous words during my prayer. I even thought that I am getting crazy. Until I read your post, I felt so alone and lost.

 

[Chippy]

I want to thank God for you Peace Seeker and to everyone else who has shared their testimonies! Everything you went through, I went through!!! I thought i was the only one going through this! I thought I was going crazy and out of my mind! I had a panic attack and was sent to the hospital but God spoke to me several times throughout this trial and I thank God for praying people and my family to help me through this. It's still a battle but I believe God is going to help me win this!!! I'm going to come out victorious! It's a fullout battle to keep sane but with the power of the Holy Spirit we have full authority to cast satan out of hour minds!!! Thank you God!

 

[Maverick]

Hello My name is Rick ..and I can relate to the trial your going thru ..Ive been thru very similar one's. ..it helps to read how to deal with them ..and I did read all of it thank you