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Catholics Vs Protestants: Who is Right? 11-2-24

Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.(James 2:24 KJV)
I never said differently, that is you, pretending to debate a person that is here t defend but rather to inform and discuss. You appear to live in Bizaro world where everything is a little cracked up.
 
I never said differently, that is you, pretending to debate a person that is here t defend but rather to inform and discuss. You appear to live in Bizaro world where everything is a little cracked up.
Thank you kindly, Bill. Coming from you, that is quite the compliment. Much appreciated.

So then, inform and discuss why these two verses say the exact opposite.

Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.​
(James 2:24 KJV)

Rom. 3:28 For we hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of the law.

Kindly,
Rhema

PS: You do know that you're still using two accounts, yes?
 
Lol , i am a Catholic .
In the same way that the Children of Abraham still squabble to this day, so do the adopted Children of Abraham squabble among themselves.

Rather than trying to find the common ground, and actually listen and act on the teachings of Our Lord, Jesus. Forgiveness and love. Both the Children and Adopted Children of Abraham prefer to condemn eachother. Each saying to themselves, God is my Father, not yours.

Both preachers and priests as well as teachers in all the different parts of the Children of God are all subject to the Word of God that we are so privileged to read before us. It does not matter, whether Jewish or Arab, Protestant or Catholic, as all stem from Abraham. And God's Word is God's Word for all.
 
And this rabbit trail has what to do with;

Catholics Vs Protestants: Who is Right?​

 
What fight?

I'm now supposed to "fight" with a rando video on YouTube?
That's like screaming at the television when you disagree with what a commentator says.

And yes, if someone quits on my arguments, that doesn't faze me in the slightest, even if no sufficient reason is ever presented. (There usually isn't.) And if someone clicks off a YouTube video that I've made, why should that bother me?

How the heck can you get offended when I make an informed critique on a rando video claiming to teach people? And yes, I'm offended when people try to teach others when they are clearly unqualified to do so.

I would suggest you re-evaluate how you value your time. You might find you waste less of it.


Dare I point out that this statement doesn't make sense? If you are referencing the legal concept of "standing" then one ought to have said, "You've no standing with me."

Clarify or not. Your choice.

But unless you created the video, I've already rendered my informed opinion on it.


You don't think there are things that are worthless?

Puzzled,
Rhema
I don't get offended. I'm not weak.
If a person has this opinion on a Topic and you stop then you don't have the full view of things.
Your argument is flawed by default.
I'm no Youtuber. it's almost a completely lost place.

You don't know how I spend my time.
What "things"?
Given the topic at hand much of what Catholics do is not backed by scripture and that is a whol e other thing to get into.
They "claim" they are the right ones and the rest of us are wrong.
They are far more likely to abandon family and friends at advisement from their "parish" or whatever they call them.
 
If a person has this opinion on a Topic and you stop then you don't have the full view of things.
What you've said here is not quite accurate. Allow me to rephrease: "If a person has an opinion on a Topic and I stop, then I don't have THEIR "full view" of things."

But so what? Do I need his "full view" of things?

I stopped because given what I had heard, their opinion wouldn't be worth much and I've determined that knowing THEIR full view of things wasn't worth the time. As mistakes and omissions mount up, there comes a realization that a person doesn't know what they're talking about. And when they don't know what they're talking about, why should I continue to waste my time by listening?

I'll give an example. A YouTube video that looked interesting was about "the verse that made me change" from Protestant to Catholic. I was interested in hearing the guy's reasons, right up until he quoted an incorrect translation of Matthew 16:19. Why should I continue to waste my time listening to the reasons for his conversion if they were based on an incorrect translation? Any conclusion would be worthless. (GIGO, as it were.)

I move on.

God Bless,
Rhema
 
Lol , i am a Catholic .
In the same way that the Children of Abraham still squabble to this day, so do the adopted Children of Abraham squabble among themselves.

Rather than trying to find the common ground, and actually listen and act on the teachings of Our Lord, Jesus. Forgiveness and love. Both the Children and Adopted Children of Abraham prefer to condemn eachother. Each saying to themselves, God is my Father, not yours.

Both preachers and priests as well as teachers in all the different parts of the Children of God are all subject to the Word of God that we are so privileged to read before us. It does not matter, whether Jewish or Arab, Protestant or Catholic, as all stem from Abraham. And God's Word is God's Word for all.

This thread is ironically about common ground. I feel Talk Jesus as a site has made a U-turn on Catholic bashing. There are bigger matters to discuss.
 
This thread is ironically about common ground. I feel Talk Jesus as a site has made a U-turn on Catholic bashing. There are bigger matters to discuss.
Indeed @"bigger." However, once we acquiesce from our high calling by proclaiming a comfortable societal/denominational label, we become evermore like the majority, "having a form of godliness but denying the power thereof; from such turn away..." (2 Tim, 3:5)

From the OP:
We have too much division in the church.
 
This thread is ironically about common ground. I feel Talk Jesus as a site has made a U-turn on Catholic bashing. There are bigger matters to discuss.

Only Christ can rebuke. Sharing the gospel is not bashing. It can seem to some but all believers serve the same one good teaching master Christ the same spirit of faith as it is written .

2 Corinthians 4:13 We having the same spirit of faith, according as it is written, I believed, and therefore have I spoken; we also believe, and therefore speak;

Those who resisted the good news as it is written they felt bashed

Acts 7:56-58And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God. Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord, And cast him out of the city, and stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man's feet, whose name was Saul.


The bible informs us there must be heresies differences of opinions as oral traditons of dying men.as long as they do not do despite to the fulness of grace the whole cost of salvation .

From my experience 25 years when sharing with Catholics It seems to boil down to the fulness of Christ grace. Teaching only a Queen mother of heaven received the fullness of grace the rest of Humanity a unknowable and continue even after ones last breath sufferings and wondering no end to faith an anchor of the soul .

Not all oral traditons are damnable .Dam that one below dam them all

2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets (oral traditons) also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

The tradition "all things written in the law and prophets" (sola scriptura ) can reform and does restore .
 
2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets (oral traditons) also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
Here is a problem.... you change scripture to suit your beliefs by adding in oral traditions as the false prophets. All Jesus gave us was oral teaching, it was flawed man who made scripture inspired by God. Oral traditions may or may not be Jesus teaching, for scripture itself says that not all of Jesus's words are contained in accepted scripture. And scribes and translations mean, that one must use the Holy Spirit to know the truth of a matter.... ANY matter. But christians nowdays either dont know how to utilize the Holy Spirit for truth or they are afraid to use the Holy Spirit for fear they will be deceived by a lying spirit.
 
Only Christ can rebuke. Sharing the gospel is not bashing. It can seem to some but all believers serve the same one good teaching master Christ the same spirit of faith as it is written .

2 Corinthians 4:13 We having the same spirit of faith, according as it is written, I believed, and therefore have I spoken; we also believe, and therefore speak;

Those who resisted the good news as it is written they felt bashed

Acts 7:56-58And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God. Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord, And cast him out of the city, and stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man's feet, whose name was Saul.


The bible informs us there must be heresies differences of opinions as oral traditons of dying men.as long as they do not do despite to the fulness of grace the whole cost of salvation .

From my experience 25 years when sharing with Catholics It seems to boil down to the fulness of Christ grace. Teaching only a Queen mother of heaven received the fullness of grace the rest of Humanity a unknowable and continue even after ones last breath sufferings and wondering no end to faith an anchor of the soul .

Not all oral traditons are damnable .Dam that one below dam them all

2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets (oral traditons) also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

The tradition "all things written in the law and prophets" (sola scriptura ) can reform and does restore .
It's like the time the peep said to the Messiah those men going n baptizing I believe it was n the Messiah said if they r for us they r not against us..

ヽ⁠(⁠(⁠◎⁠д⁠◎⁠)⁠)⁠ゝ
 
Indeed @"bigger." However, once we acquiesce from our high calling by proclaiming a comfortable societal/denominational label, we become evermore like the majority, "having a form of godliness but denying the power thereof; from such turn away..." (2 Tim, 3:5)

From the OP:
Bashing is one thing and largely insults and opinions.
Pointing out all they do that IS wrong and is NOT backed by God and the Bible is not hate.
 
Protestants and Catholics are the same because Protestantism is a subset of Catholicism. At the Council of Nicaea Constantine combined the druidic Iesa, Iusa (which is Jesus) with India Krishna (which is Christ) and created Jesus Christ, or Christianity.

Christianity's origin is Irish Druidism, Iesa, which is Jesus. The Druids spread Iesa spiritualism through the earth. That's where India got Jesus from. India rearticulated Druid teachings from their point of view calling Iesa, Krishna. Regardless of the whether its Jesus, Iesa or Krishna it embodies the same spiritualism of Mind, Body and Soul.

So, Constantine barrowed from Druidism and the Roman Catholic Church came into being. The key difference Constantine created in the Christianity you believe today from Druidism is you are taught that you need to look externally. Your salvation is external, Jesus Christ. In reality you are divine, and you need not look externally. Put in other words today's Christianity teaches human beings have a sinful nature. Our behavior is driven from flesh's desire which typically is sinful. In reality you have a lower self-consciousness made up of three energy centers, a center energy center and three higher self-consciousness made up of three energy centers. These energy centers are called Chakras.

The sin which today's Christianity says is a result of your sinful nature takes place in the lower self. Sin in today's Christianity is manifested in behavior due to the sinful nature. This is what the Catholic Church has taught you. In reality sin is the sinewave (sin of eve) because energy is a wave which cycles to a high peak, down a zero point of inertia, then down to a low peak, back up the zero point of inertia and returns back to the high peak. Everything is a cycle, seconds, minutes, hours, days, months, years, seasons and your bodily functions are in cycles. This wave cycle shows up on the electromagnetic spectrum.

Your heart and nervous system are electrical. You heart beats, pauses, beats, pauses... Your inhale, pause, exhale pause... These are electrical cycles of your toroidal field, your heart, your center energy center.

Catholicism teaches Heaven and Hell are actual real places. In reality Hell is the lower self, the three lower Chakras. Your heel is Hell, it's the root Chakra. Heaven is your head, the crown Chakra. Catholicism is saying you need Jesus Christ an external solution to your sin. In reality you only need heed your higher self, by raising the Kundalini Energy to your upper self-consciousness. So, the key is balance! If you live on earth at the center Charka, it's impossible to sin in the context of what the Catholic Church teaches what sin is. What can take place on the lower self cannot take place in the higher self or the center. And that's because each energy center is on its own unique frequency. You have freewill. You can change back and forth from lower self to center and higher self. The flesh desires the lower self, that's the equal to the sinful nature the Catholic Church teaches you. The flesh desires the lower self because you are matter and dense. Everything on the is earth is made up of low vibrating light which is matter. So, its normal while in the root Chakra to do "sinful things". In the higher self, light vibrates at an accelerated rate, a different frequency, that why "sin" cannot take place in the higher self. If you don't want to sin, the raise to your higher state of consciousness.

Sin is also demonstrated in another context. Sin is to be without. To be without is not being whole which means Holy. Your body is created from the elements of Aether, earth and air. Aether is the same as spirit. ...and God formed man from the clay and breathed life into him. It's an allegory for alchemy. The earth element (or the allegory clay) are 12 minerals your body is created from:

Calc Fluor (Calcium Fluoride): Often linked with the health of bones, teeth, and elasticity of tissues, such as ligaments and veins.
Calc Phos (Calcium Phosphate): Thought to aid in bone growth, development, and cellular structure, often recommended for general healing and growth.
Calc Sulph (Calcium Sulphate): Often used for skin health, particularly in cases involving infections or slow-healing wounds.
Ferrum Phos (Iron Phosphate): Believed to help with inflammation and is used as a general first-aid remedy for fevers, colds, and early-stage infections.
Kali Mur (Potassium Chloride): Commonly linked to congestion and detoxification, especially for mucus and glandular issues.
Kali Phos (Potassium Phosphate): Often regarded as a nerve nutrient, used to address issues like mental fatigue, stress, and depression.
Kali Sulph (Potassium Sulphate): Known for its role in skin health and detoxification, often used in conditions involving cell renewal or oxygenation.
Mag Phos (Magnesium Phosphate): Often used for muscle relaxation and pain relief, such as cramps and spasms.
Nat Mur (Sodium Chloride): Linked with water balance, making it useful for addressing fluid retention, dry skin, and emotional imbalances like grief.
Nat Phos (Sodium Phosphate): Believed to help with acid balance, often used for digestive issues like acidity, heartburn, and joint health.
Nat Sulph (Sodium Sulphate): Associated with liver health and detoxification, often used for bloating, water retention, and liver support.
Silicea (Silica): Thought to strengthen connective tissue, hair, nails, and skin, often used in cases involving weak or brittle nails and hair.

The element air is the breath your mother inhales and exhales. The element earth are the 12 tissue salts derived from the food your mother consumes. The element spirit comes from the Elohim, or God. The three transmute and forms flesh, your body.

Each of these minerals are built in your body while you are in the womb. It's equally distributed over 12 months. However human gestation is only 9 months. Therefore, you are without, hence you are in sin. The three months are you without will show up as health problems in your years to come. If you don't supply your body these tissue salts your body will create them at the expense your lifespan and your aging is accelerated.

The Catholic Church teaches you that the Bible is literal. In reality most of it is allegorical.
The Catholic Church teaches you that the Bible is inspired from the Holy Spirit. In reality, the Jesuits in the Catholic Church framework authored the Bible with inspiration other than the Holy Spirit. The Bible is original to Druidism.

It really doesn't matter between Protestantism and Catholicism if during the Protestant Reformation, men saw they hypocrisy of the Catholic Church but doubled down on the Bible which the Catholic Church authored. So, they restructured going independent and took out the apocrypha. So, there is a structural change but spiritually they are same.

If you are interested in more information about what I speak of start off with Irish history so that you can understand the origin of the Catholic Church and the formation of Christianity as you know it today.

On Amazon Kindle:
The Irish Origins of Civilization Volumes 1 and 2 written by Micheal Tsarion
 
Catholicism teaches Heaven and Hell are actual real places. In reality Hell is the lower self, the three lower Chakras. Your heel is Hell, it's the root Chakra. Heaven is your head, the crown Chakra. Catholicism is saying you need Jesus Christ an external solution to your sin. In reality you only need heed your higher self, by raising the Kundalini Energy to your upper self-consciousness. So, the key is balance! If you live on earth at the center Charka, it's impossible to sin in the context of what the Catholic Church teaches what sin is. What can take place on the lower self cannot take place in the higher self or the center. And that's because each energy center is on its own unique frequency. You have freewill. You can change back and forth from lower self to center and higher self. The flesh desires the lower self, that's the equal to the sinful nature the Catholic Church teaches you. The flesh desires the lower self because you are matter and dense. Everything on the is earth is made up of low vibrating light which is matter. So, its normal while in the root Chakra to do "sinful things". In the higher self, light vibrates at an accelerated rate, a different frequency, that why "sin" cannot take place in the higher self. If you don't want to sin, the raise to your higher state of consciousness

I would offer.

Heel is the term used to represent suffering unto death .Not dead never to rise. By His wounds or bruises we are healed.

It is used as a propmised three days and nights demonstrations of the Lamb who was slain from the foundation ( again demonstrations) Genesis 3:15 and Isaiah 53

The Holy Father "Let there be Creator" in pursuit of a bride. . sufferings bruising the heel of the Son man Jesus crushing the head of the serpent.

The promise of two working as if one.

It began in the garden of Gethsemane when the Father first poured out his wrath .The other apostles with, fell asleep, Jesus awoke them and asked for help in prayer . Three times the Father put them asleep to fulfill the prophecy of two working as one the of bruising of the heel. ( Genesis 3:15 and Isaiah 53)

Then moved on to phase two the hill of skull the bloody demonstration to the all the nations of the world, then them Tomb. Three demonstrations. Three in parables denotes the end of the matter
 
Protestants and Catholics are the same because Protestantism is a subset of Catholicism.
That's a bit like saying that the Ford F150 and the Tesla Cybertruck "are the same" because they're subsets of "truck." :rolleyes:

Christianity's origin is Irish Druidism, Iesa, which is Jesus
I'm sure you believe this, but I'm also sure you know this is so off the wall as to necessitate citations. Unless you like writing fiction and passing fables off as historical truth.

Now I found a Celtic god named Esus, so was yours a mistype?

If you're looking to have people respect your views, then put together your citations and make your case. Otherwise you pretty much fit into the flat earther category of people.

Constantine combined the druidic Iesa, Iusa (which is Jesus) with India Krishna (which is Christ) and created Jesus Christ, or Christianity.
With all due respect, I would suggest you get a better and more academic history book (and maybe two or three of them), because Constantine didn't combine anything. (He wasn't that particularly educated in those endeavors.) Constantine realized that nearly half his army was Christian, and an emperor without an army is just a dead person, especially after Diocletian's persecution of Christianity in the East. The call for the council at Nicaea was to have the bishops of Christianity sort our their internal theological contradictions (re: Arius and the Trinity).

In reality you are divine, and you need not look externally
Well then, never mind. My apologies for the presumption that you were interested in discussing facts, as opposed to occultic New Age drivel.

The Irish Origins of Civilization Volumes 1 and 2 written by Micheal Tsarion
Ah. I should've known. The guy should be writing scripts for Dr. Who.

Have at it,
Rhema

sinewave (sin of eve)
:laughing:
 
I would offer.

Heel is the term used to represent suffering unto death .Not dead never to rise. By His wounds or bruises we are healed.

It is used as a propmised three days and nights demonstrations of the Lamb who was slain from the foundation ( again demonstrations) Genesis 3:15 and Isaiah 53

The Holy Father "Let there be Creator" in pursuit of a bride. . sufferings bruising the heel of the Son man Jesus crushing the head of the serpent.

The promise of two working as if one.

It began in the garden of Gethsemane when the Father first poured out his wrath .The other apostles with, fell asleep, Jesus awoke them and asked for help in prayer . Three times the Father put them asleep to fulfill the prophecy of two working as one the of bruising of the heel. ( Genesis 3:15 and Isaiah 53)

Then moved on to phase two the hill of skull the bloody demonstration to the all the nations of the world, then them Tomb. Three demonstrations. Three in parables denotes the end of the matter
Understood.

In Metaphysics Heel is the root chakra. It's one of three chakras of the lower self. It is hell. Each Chakra is an energy center that governs a part of the human body.

If one doesn't raise the Kundalini (the Christ Oil), then one remains in Hell, as opposed to going to the crown Chakra or heaven. No man comes to the father but by me. The father being God in heaven. Heaven is in your head where the temple is. Jesus is the Christ Oil.

Each month the moon, moves into a position of the zodiac which you are born. Your pineal gland releases a fluid. The fluid is the Christ Oil. It travels down your spine. Jesus lived and ministered for 33 years. You have 33 vertebrae in your spine. Jesus is killed on the cross. He is buried in a cave for three days. The Christ Oil which travels down in your spine rests in the Sacrum Chakra for three days.

During that three days you have one of three options: 1) You can use the Christ Oil and regenerate 2) You can use the Christ Oil and generate or 3) The worse option you can waste it.

I'm going to simplify this for brevity, but preparation is required. The meditation isn't to be taken lightly. If you regenerate, you meditate. During meditation, the Christ Oil goes back up the spine. Jesus resurrects. The Christ Oil returns back to the pineal gland. Once there, the fluid transmutes into a gas which then regenerates your brain and body. Your brain is now at 100% instead of 10%. Your body is renewed. You are reborn. When you accept Christ as your personal savior then you are reborn. This is what the Catholic Church teaches you to take literally when really, it's an allegory. They encoded the bible. The encoding is the allegory. They wrote the Bible barrowing from Druidism.

You are taught to read it literally so that you never acquire your higher self-consciousness keeping you in the lower self-conscious where eventually you die, and your soul recycles. The Catholic Church isn't going to teach you the meditation, but rather talk about it in an allegory, and again where you take it literally that a man was born from a virgin, lived 33 years, ministered, died on a cross, went to hell, defeated death, resurrected and then ascended.

If you generate then you are procreating. The procreation fluids of the male and female is life. You are taking life from you and your spouse is taking life from him or her, putting it together, so that a new soul enters life from the both of you. Each time procreation fluids are excreted then your lifespan is shortened. Once you are out, that's it, you die. What this mean is, each time you excrete procreation fluids, the Christ Oil is exhausted. You had the opportunity to regenerate but didn't. Regeneration renews, you are reborn. Your lifespan increases. This makes procreation unique and special. It creates value. Pleasure is no longer the motivation for procreation, but rather byproduct of procreation. The motivation for procreation is new life. Realizing this creates a new mindset about when to procreate and why you and your spouse decide to do so.

You can waste your Christ Oil. You can spoil it by remaining in the lower self, by eating acidic foods, drinking alcohol, abusing your procreation fluids, using tobacco, marijuana, other drugs, no meditation and no balanced Chakras.

Revisiting sin...
Using fornication as an example. Fornication isn't really sin, but fornicating keeps you in the lower self, the lower three Chakras. If you stay in the lower self never meditating to the higher self, then you remain in hell. You die. Your soul recycles. On the other hand, if you balance between the lower self and the higher self managing your behavior, you can live as long as you desire on earth. At the center is the zero point of inertia where at this frequency you don't age and you don't ascend.

Sin is the sinewave. Your life is sinewave cycle. Think of a guitar string. You strum one string. It makes a sound. The sound is sinewave. When you are born, the wave is strong. The Catholic Church teaches you, you are born into sin. That's allegory for the sinewave. When you die the wave has faded. The strum on the string has faded. Everything is cycle. In the flesh or light manifested into matter the cycle comes to end.

Energy cannot be destroyed. That's your soul. Your body or matter reconverts back into energy or light upon death. Your soul recycles. Again, this is the sinewave. The cycle never ends due to the toroidal field's electromagnetism. The Vatican knows all this. They got it from the Druids. They just don't teach it to you explicitly. They encode it the Bible they wrote in allegories. The truth is hidden in plain sight.
 
That's a bit like saying that the Ford F150 and the Tesla Cybertruck "are the same" because they're subsets of "truck." :rolleyes:


I'm sure you believe this, but I'm also sure you know this is so off the wall as to necessitate citations. Unless you like writing fiction and passing fables off as historical truth.

Now I found a Celtic god named Esus, so was yours a mistype?

If you're looking to have people respect your views, then put together your citations and make your case. Otherwise you pretty much fit into the flat earther category of people.


With all due respect, I would suggest you get a better and more academic history book (and maybe two or three of them), because Constantine didn't combine anything. (He wasn't that particularly educated in those endeavors.) Constantine realized that nearly half his army was Christian, and an emperor without an army is just a dead person, especially after Diocletian's persecution of Christianity in the East. The call for the council at Nicaea was to have the bishops of Christianity sort our their internal theological contradictions (re: Arius and the Trinity).


Well then, never mind. My apologies for the presumption that you were interested in discussing facts, as opposed to occultic New Age drivel.


Ah. I should've known. The guy should be writing scripts for Dr. Who.

Have at it,
Rhema


:laughing:
That's really odd you would offer me Ad Hominem response. :(
 
Christianity's origin is Irish Druidism, Iesa, which is Jesus. The Druids spread Iesa spiritualism through the earth. That's where India got Jesus from. India rearticulated Druid teachings from their point of view calling Iesa, Krishna. Regardless of the whether its Jesus, Iesa or Krishna it embodies the same spiritualism of Mind, Body and Soul.

Ummm... right.

In Metaphysics Heel is the root chakra. It's one of three chakras of the lower self. It is hell. Each Chakra is an energy center that governs a part of the human body.

If one doesn't raise the Kundalini (the Christ Oil), then one remains in Hell, as opposed to going to the crown Chakra or heaven. No man comes to the father but by me. The father being God in heaven. Heaven is in your head where the temple is. Jesus is the Christ Oil.

Each month the moon, moves into a position of the zodiac which you are born. Your pineal gland releases a fluid. The fluid is the Christ Oil. It travels down your spine. Jesus lived and ministered for 33 years. You have 33 vertebrae in your spine. Jesus is killed on the cross. He is buried in a cave for three days. The Christ Oil which travels down in your spine rests in the Sacrum Chakra for three days.

Does it get more new-age than this? I'm sure you have scripture to back all this up. :)
 
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