Core Beliefs and What it Means to be Chrisian

[JunoTheServant]

As someone who left three Judas cults, I see you bear false witness like you're still in the cult. Friendly fire is a thing.

Judas cult? is that an American thing? Yall got all kind of cults in them 1st world countries, i'm happy I live in the Caribbean.

Friendly fire? Man if I throw a stone in a crowd whoever cries out that's the person who got hit. When people hear the truth they should get prick because that's what the truth does. Coming to the light means you have to change your ways.

Prove it. Chapter and verse. Also, when was the Thief on the Cross baptized?

Literally showed the scripture saying that. Read my response to KingJ which should prove God only has one gospel. If you need more then let me know.

Christ is Truth. Look at Lucifer, Cain, Solomon, and Judas for example. So yeah, not divided. Wheat and tares.

There are also vessels of honor and dishonor. In other words some people come into the true church of God to cause division. They are not actually interested in salvation. Jesus cast out the 1st devil in the church and last time I check everyone was going to church on the Sabbath both the Jews and the Greeks.

Facts (and Christ is Truth). Hypocrisy and iniquity send the most effective exorcists straight to their adopted daddy's evil lap:

Saint Matthew, chapter 7:
22 "Many will say to Me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?"
23 "And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."

Amen

Saint Mark, chapter 9:
38 And John ( portrayed by @JunoTheServant ) answered him, saying, "Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us."
39 But Jesus said, "Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me.
40 For he that is not against us is on our part. (that should be every Christian ever, but look at Judas Isacariot and everyone who sins
41 For whosoever shall give you a cup of water (Whosoever. Anyone. They are not miraculously parting the Red Sea in the Sacred Name of GOD; it is just a cup of water) to drink in my name, because ye (@JunoTheServant ) belong to Christ, verily I say unto you, he shall not lose his reward."

Take it up to Jesus The True And Living God as to the breakdown of what HE says in verse 41. Even if they say "Jesus" and only have a cup of water to give you because you @JunoTheServant belong to Christ, " verily I (JESUS) say unto you, he shall not lose his reward."

That's not what I protrayed. If he cast out Devils then that meant he was Christian. You are trying to say they have different faith.

In fact all I did was question a brother. You done act like I commit sin. Jesus say many shall come in his name so I got to check people out.

So now my question to you is, do you keep the Sabbath?

 

[Dave M]

Huh? Are you asking me to explain what Israel has to do?

Anyone who wants salvation must do what Israel do in order to get it.

what has Israel done to get salvation, is what I am asking, is it different then a gentile? Because most of Israel in the OT did not get salvation, is why I am curios to what your saying.

 

[JunoTheServant]

Anyone who wants salvation must do what Israel do in order to get it.

what has Israel done to get salvation, is what I am asking, is it different then a gentile? Because most of Israel in the OT did not get salvation, is why I am curios to what your saying.

Correct most of the Israelites did not get salvation and there is a reason for that.

Hebrews 4: 2
2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.

They did not believe it, which meant they had no faith. The Israelites and anyone who did do what God required got salvation. Rahab the harlot was not an Hebrew but she joined the house of Israel and did what they did. Abraham was not even Israelite he is the father of the faithful. We need faith to do what God asks us to do.

Also notice what is written here. The GOSPEL was preached to them and to us. The gospel has never changed because God does not change.

God gave all his house rules to Israel and Israel's job is to give it to all nations. .

 

[KingJ]

Israel is God's house. When you go to someone's house you need to abide by the house master rules. All nations are to join themselves to Israel and this is what the world don't understand. You are correct the Sabbath is a sign between God and his people but you forgot some scriptures so let me add them in.

Exodus 12: 49
49 One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.

All over the bible it tells you God is not a respecter of persons. He would not tell Gentiles to do this and Jews yall do this. He wants everyone to the same thing.

Isaiah 56: 6 - 7, 10
6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the Lord, to serve him, and to love the name of the Lord, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;

7 Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.

You notice it includes EVERYONE and not just Israel??

In God's house everyone is going to keep the Sabbath. So if you're not keeping it then that simple means you decided not to come in.

John 10: 1 - 3, 11
1 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.

2 But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.

3 To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.

11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.

12 But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.

13 The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.

14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.

15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.

16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

This fold is talking about Israel, so if God is bringing you into the fold then common sense should tell us all we all need to do the same thing. If you come in my house and I say no shoes, do you think it would be fair if I let someone else come into my house with shoes. If I say I don't want no shoes in my house then I mean what I say. If you don't want to do that then you can stay outside.

God don't have Christians keeping the Sabbath and some Christians keeping sunday. God is bringing all nations which are the other sheep into the fold that the nation of Israel is already apart of.

Conclusion
At the risk of sounding redundant Israel is God house, in fact Israel is God's name. God punished Israelites for not obeying the rules of his house which is called by his name. Ain't nobody going into God's house unless they obey HIS rules. That's why he said you are blessed if you keep his commandments because then you may enter. If you don't do it then you may not enter.

Revelation 22: 14 - 15
14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

You are not addressing the arguments I raised. You are presenting your interpretation and introducing new passages, but you have not interacted with the specific points about Exodus 31:16-17, Acts 15, Romans 14:5, and Colossians 2:16.

A discussion works by responding to the points that have been made, not by creating rabbit trails and moving on to different subjects. If you disagree with my arguments, then explain why those passages do not support my position. That would move the discussion forward.

Talk Jesus is a discussion forum not a message board.

 

[JunoTheServant]

You are not addressing the arguments I raised. You are presenting your interpretation and introducing new passages, but you have not interacted with the specific points about Exodus 31:16-17, Acts 15, Romans 14:5, and Colossians 2:16.

A discussion works by responding to the points that have been made, not by creating rabbit trails and moving on to different subjects. If you disagree with my arguments, then explain why those passages do not support my position. That would move the discussion forward.

Talk Jesus is a discussion forum not a message board.

Sir I read your entire post. I also said you were correct that the Sabbath is a sign between God and Israel and I showed clearly that Israel is God's house. Gentiles don't have their own rules. Everyone has to obey God. That's what Paul meant when he said God torn down the partition. In fact their are plenty examples in the old testament such as Ruth and Rahab to name a few.

There is neither Jew nor Greek, we are all one. Isn't that what I showed with the scripture where Jesus said ONE FOLD??

Do what God required of Israel and you would be a spiritual Israelite which is the seed of Abraham, which are the children of faith.

So I addressed the entire point itself but it seems as though you want me to address the scriptures you used in your post. However the point you are making is inaccurate because the Sabbath is not the Jews Sabbath it is the LORD'S SABBATH so therefore you are using scriptures out of context.

When Satan quoted scripture at Jesus I don't recall Jesus arguing with Satan about how he was wrong and that's not what that scripture means, he simply said it is written...

The Sabbath is not only for Israelites and I use scriptures to prove that.