Drinking and clubs???

[eddieb]

i agree with chad. scripture says dont be castin your pearls to the swine and then gives a warning that if you do they will turn and rend you. or trample you, depends on the version of bible.

as for drinking some have the ability or should i say LIBERTY IN CHRIST to do so. others dont. i am one who cant drink cuz my flesh will raise its head out of the water like a water moccasian ready to strike. which if you never saw that, its kinda scary. dont offend your brother with your "meat" putting a stumbling block in front of him because of your liberty. if you do drink the bible says drunkards do not inherit the kingdom of God. so drink but DONT GET DRUNK or you will have weeping and nashing of teeth. its what the bible says.

Jesus first miricle was turning water into wine. wine isnt sin. drink isnt sin. sin is what we do. (sin- harmotia-miss our mark, and the mark is to Love God with all our heart, mind BODY and soul and to love our neighbor as ourselves)

 

[SpiritLedEd]

Drinking and Clubs?

I've been a member of Alcoholics Anonymous for more than twenty years and I've seen hundreds of young people (teens or early twenties) come into the program either voluntarily or under court order, their lives seriously damaged by alcohol and drugs. There's also the many news flashes on TV I've seen reporting deadly auto accidents caused by young drivers driving drunk.

My own 30 year "career" as an alcoholic started seemingly innocently, with one beer taken out of the refrigerator at my parents' home when I was 16 or 17 years old. My alcoholism did incredible damage to my family and me. I'm sober 26 years and we're all still suffering the consequences of my drinking.

Is a night of "fun" with your friends worth risking your life or the lives of others? Is it worth risking long jail or prison sentences? Is it worth risking permanent disabling injury to yourself or others? Think about it, please.

SLE

 

[<3ilyJesus<3]

Wow... Well i think drinking in general is wrong. It's like kissing before you are married. I don't necessarily think it's a sin, but it can lead to sin. Such as going all the way or thinking lustful thoughts. That's a sin if you aren't married to the person. Same thing with alcohol... Drinking it maybe isn't a sin, but it can lead to sin. The Bible says that getting drunk is WRONG! Personally, I will never drink alcohol again because I think it's a sin. Ask God, He knows all the answers

 

[Brighthouse]

your actions, should always confirm your words in life

To say we belive but yet live as though our lives our the same, should send a strong messege!! what is the difference between you and them? They say, Jesus is our friend, and you say Jesus is my life? is he? It is not that drinking is a sin, but it sure looks bad! It looks bad for your witness, would you hear anything from a man who was drinking a high ball? ah doubt it. And that is the point.

 

[stephen]

When I was a young man I was a Methodist, following my parents.

In early 20s I began a Christian fellowship 5 miles from my home. I invited an Evangelist to come and spend some time with us.

He took me (a Methodist) into the local hotel where he laughed at the drinkers..........scorned them....saying they were only drinking only from a pint measure.......if they attended the Christian Fellowship he would teach them how to drink from the fountain head....MmMm

That was over 40 years back. Folks did come along and were filled with the Holy Spirit..........A new building opened this year 2009 (debt free) at the opening I met a folks now in their 90s who came for a drink at the fountain head.....those years back....There is no substitute for Jesus

Jesus said "If any man thirst let him come unto me and drink.......out of his inner most being shall flow rivers............" Wow

Do not be deluded young folks.........Drinking?...a counterfeit for what Jesus offers.....Do not rest until you have met Him....the Master

 

[roennov]

Hi,

I'm brand new in here, and from Denmark.

I have been reading this thread through, from A-Z and I must say that I am shocked, to a mild degree, about the fuss over alcohol.
In numerous posts alcohol is being described as a gateway directly down to hell, without any exceptions. Others view alcohol as a catalyst for sin.
So far all the comments about alcohol has been about the negativity about getting drunk, how you lose selfcontrol, how you might end up in embarrasing situations etc. But what about some of the good times associated with alcohol? Im not advocating senseless benchdrinking, but I don't see the harm in having a few beers with some friends, or family every now and then.
Unlike many posters in this topic, I do not believe I'm "tempting Satan" by having a drink, because, believe it or not, I am still in control of my thoughts, acts and speech after a few beers.
This might be connected to the fact that Denmark has the highest rate of drinking among teenagers, and there is 2 ways to go about this. The first one is to say that almost every single danish teenager is in an unholy alliance with satan (highly unlikely), or that danish teenagers actually learn how to drink with modesty, as they know their own limit.
If people decide that they do not want to enjoy a beer, a glas of wine or whatever, that is fine with me, that doesn't make them worse (or better) people.

 

[shipwrecksoul]

Hello roennov,
Hey what you wrote is really good for your first post. Our dinner table growing up we had red wine. And I think everyone here had tasted alcohol once in their life , unless they were a saint before conversion, just kidding.
But let me share another story with you about my brother charlie, lets see I had 5 brothers.
He knew there was a change in my life, he was like 15 years older than me(he served in Vietnam) and one day two old ladies told him it was wrong to drink. My brother asked me, me, is that right Mario. I told him this story roenov.
One day my wife and I with two friends were at a Chinese restaurant ordering our food when the waiter asked the two friends what would they like to drink? Both of them ordered soda. Then it came our turn and I ordered a glass of red wine. No sooner than I said it one of the friends asked to change his drink from a soda to a seven and seven. So I became his stumbling block for him to drink, even though it is in my culture to drink. We were mid 20's at the time. I had wished I thought quick enough to change my drink to a soda.
So I told Charlie the two old ladies probably meant this when they said drinking was wrong, who gave no follow up as to why.
So this is just my experience on what the Lord showed me in my life.
We all know more people abuse than a few who drink in right conscious sake. I never want to hurt someone's conscious by my un discipline to drink, wanting in my life discipline to not put a stumbling block in someone's life.

PS I Welcome you, Glad to meet you. I hope you meet people here that you can relate to and grow spiritually through edification.

 

[StraightToVideo]

Hi,

I'm brand new in here, and from Denmark.

I have been reading this thread through, from A-Z and I must say that I am shocked, to a mild degree, about the fuss over alcohol.
In numerous posts alcohol is being described as a gateway directly down to hell, without any exceptions. Others view alcohol as a catalyst for sin.
So far all the comments about alcohol has been about the negativity about getting drunk, how you lose selfcontrol, how you might end up in embarrasing situations etc. But what about some of the good times associated with alcohol? Im not advocating senseless benchdrinking, but I don't see the harm in having a few beers with some friends, or family every now and then.
Unlike many posters in this topic, I do not believe I'm "tempting Satan" by having a drink, because, believe it or not, I am still in control of my thoughts, acts and speech after a few beers.
This might be connected to the fact that Denmark has the highest rate of drinking among teenagers, and there is 2 ways to go about this. The first one is that almost every single danish teenager is in an unholy alliance with satan (highly unlikely), or that danish teenagers actually learn how to drink with modesty, as they know their own limit.
If people decide that they do not want to enjoy a beer, a glas of wine or whatever, that is fine with me, that doesn't make them worse (or better) people.

I agree with you , I don't see the harm of drinking, modestly

 

[HoneyBare]

I have read this whole thread and find it very interesting to hear other Christian's exeriences. Let me share some of mine.

I grew up in a family that drank. We had a bar in our home, so it was not unusual for us kids to sneak a drink from our parent's stash once in awhile. We all developed a taste for it. We felt all grown up.

One of my brothers died from alcohol abuse. His liver just gave out. My husband and I hung out in bars and in pubs when we would visit England. The pubs there by the way are so much nicer than our bars here in the states. They are very family oriented, and they don't hold the stigma like in the states.

Never-the-less, when my life felt hopeless, and I didn't care if I lived or died, drinking became my lifeboat. Not a very good one, but enough to numb the pain like it did for my parents.

One other little story I just thought of: When I was singing with a rock and roll band in Chicago, our drummer, who was only 17, went to his priest to talk with him about his alcohol problem. First thing the priest did when he invited the boy in, was to ask him if he wanted a drink. He was holding a bottle of rum when he asked him.

I didn't know anything about religion at that time, but it stuck with me, and we came to the conclusion that no one had the answers if Jimmy's priest didn't.

Then there was the time I took the chance and visited a church once, about 2 years ago. It was one of those "wild and crazy" churches, ya know? Where the music is posted up on a screen and people are all happy and all. I was terrified. Then I recognized about four girls I worked with, acting all giddy and religious, and I realized they didn't have the answers either, even though I really wished I'd find some here. You see, these were the girls who would invite me out with them when they went clubbing on friday nights. I was really disappointed because I realized they were just as lost as I was.

It took me another year 1/2 before I met a woman who had such a peace about her and read her Bible on her breaks, and I realized that she must have all the answers. She didn't drink or go out clubbing. She read the Bible, and was kind.

That was when she told me about the missionaries who would come to visit me and invited me to her church, the Mormon Church. I stayed in that church for two years, and it was the best thing for me to stay clean from pot and drinking. I thought I had "arrived." Of course, I soon realized they had lied to me, and that it was a false peace because I was full of the pride in accomplishing all my goals through my own strength. After awhile, it just wasn't enough and I caved in.

Since then, I discovered a Christian forum, and a moderator told me how to surrender my life to Christ. He didn't tell me I needed to stop drinking, but I discovered I didn't have to drink myself into a stooper to feel less pain. I still drink occasionally, but not to forget. I just enjoy a glass of wine with my dinner, or having a beer when we are out with friends.

It disturbs me that Christians sometimes try to see how close they can get to the edge of the World, instead of trying to get as close to Father and holiness as they can. Because it is there, in that fellowship, that we find the contentment and satisfaction that the world can't give. I used to be so shallow, and sooooo lost! I just went with the flow, and almost drowned. I am so glad I found Father and He brought me out of where I was headed.

Teenagers, you have been reading on this forum; you know a lot more than I did at your age. Don't fall into the trap I did. It's not as exciting as you may think. No, nothing compares to the euphoria of getting on your knees and laying it all at your Creator's feet. Talking to Heavenly Father about all your doubts and fears really, really does help. He has the answers, IF you listen until you hear that still small voice.

Drinking isn't all it's cracked up to be. Nope, it isn't.