Eat my flesh, drink my blood

[Garee]

Speak for yourself. Where do you get Christian doubt daily? Give the scripture that says that exact thing, or the scriptures together that imply that.

Hi thanks, sorry if I offended . Christ is the teacher.

In one sense the request "give us this daily bread" it stem from doubt the desire to know the will as the light unto our path daily as in effect we walk in the wilderness .

Unbelief (no living faith working in us yoked with Christ. .) No faith is the opposite of faith.

Doubt can cause hesitation or wondering. It is why I believe when it was revealed to Nicodemus one that did chase after signs to wonder after before he would believe. When he was revealed the most highest possible miracle as a declaration." must be born again" He added wonder not! The loving commandment .It seemed to work in Nicodenmus took away his wondering, as doubt. .

Wondering or doubting it is not believing. My wife counts to three (lol)

 

[God's Truth]

Hi thanks, sorry if I offended .
Christ is the teacher.

In one sense the request "give us this daily bread" it stem from doubt the desire to know the will as the light unto our path daily as in effect we walk in the wilderness .

I don't agree with you saying the request for daily bread stems from doubt.

Unbelief (no living faith working in us yoked with Christ. .) No faith is the opposite of faith.

Doubt can cause hesitation or wondering. It is why I believe when it was revealed to Nicodemus one that did chase after signs to wonder after before he would believe.

Jesus does say to believe him for the miracles.

John 10:38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.

...and many more.

When he was revealed the most highest possible miracle as a declaration." must be born again" He added wonder not! The loving commandment .It seemed to work in Nicodenmus took away his wondering, as doubt. .

Nicodemus did not understand about having to die to the sins of the world and live a new life pleasing God.

Wondering or doubting it is not believing. My wife counts to three (lol)

Sounds wise, even though I am not sure I understand that. lol

 

[Garee]

I don't agree with you saying the request for daily bread stems from doubt.

jesu told his disples he has food to eat that they know no of . The power to do the will . Jesus prayed not as I will. But you the one with power. if it did not come from a new desire to know the will as doubt. . . then where?

Jesus does say to believe him for the miracles.

John 10:38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.

Same Jesus who says to wonder or doubt not but rather believe . . ..exercise the faith or power of Christ that works in us .. Unlike the unbelieving Jew that made Jesus into a circus seal

To the law and the testimony below we are informed or wonderers doubters (not faithful believers )

The law..

John 4:48Then said Jesus unto him, Except ye see signs and wonders, ye will not believe.

The testimony of the law.

John 6:30They said therefore unto him, What sign shewest thou then, that we may see, and believe thee? what dost thou work?

Sounds wise, even though I am not sure I understand that. lol

If its wise it comes from the wisdom above .Not wise guys like me and three stooges . Hey Mo, hey Larry . . . Nuk nuk nuk.

Its how I stay in trouble with my wife .The wiser gal .

 

[God's Truth]

jesu told his disples he has food to eat that they know no of .

Jesus says that food is to obey his Father.
That is our food too.

The power to do the will . Jesus prayed not as I will.

Jesus says his will is to do his Father's will and not the will of a man.

But you the one with power.

All who obey have the Holy Spirit with power.

if it did not come from a new desire to know the will as doubt. . . then where?

"...the desire to know the will as doubt"? What does that mean?

exercise the faith or power of Christ that works in us .. Unlike the unbelieving Jew that made Jesus into a circus seal

Where did anyone make Jesus into a circus clown?

I know that God testified to what Jesus and the apostles did by allowing them to do miracle.

Hebrews 2:4
God also testified to it by signs, wonders and various miracles, and by gifts of the Holy Spirit distributed according to his will.

Acts 14:3 So Paul and Barnabas spent considerable time there, speaking boldly for the Lord, who confirmed the message of his grace by enabling them to perform signs and wonders.

Mark 6:7 Calling the Twelve to him, he began to send them out two by two and gave them authority over impure spirits.

Matthew 10:1
Jesus called his twelve disciples to him and gave them authority to drive out impure spirits and to heal every disease and sickness.

To the law and the testimony below we are informed or wonderers doubters (not faithful believers )

The law..

John 4:48Then said Jesus unto him, Except ye see signs and wonders, ye will not believe.

The testimony of the law.
John 6:30They said therefore unto him, What sign shewest thou then, that we may see, and believe thee? what dost thou work?

Hebrews 2:3 how shall we escape if we ignore so great a salvation? This salvation, which was first announced by the Lord, was confirmed to us by those who heard him.
4 God also testified to it by signs, wonders and various miracles, and by gifts of the Holy Spirit distributed according to his will.

Mark 16:20 Then the disciples went out and preached everywhere, and the Lord worked with them and confirmed his word by the signs that accompanied it.

Hebrews 2:3 how shall we escape if we ignore so great a salvation? This salvation, which was first announced by the Lord, was confirmed to us by those who heard him.

If its wise it comes from the wisdom above .Not wise guys like me and three stooges . Hey Mo, hey Larry . . . Nuk nuk nuk.

Its how I stay in trouble with my wife .The wiser gal .

What a blessing to have a good wife.

 

[Rhema]

The scripture plainly say Thomas doubted.

He didn't doubt AFTER.

 

[Rhema]

Un-belief (no faith or faithless ) is the opposite of doubt .

Credit where credit is due. That is profound.

Many who un-believe have no doubt about it.

Rhema

 

[God's Truth]

He didn't doubt AFTER.

That is what I told you.
It isn't doubting if you believe what you are told.

 

[Rhema]

That is what I told you.
It isn't doubting if you believe what you are told.

But he doubted before.... I've posted enough proof for anybody.

Rhema

 

[God's Truth]

But he doubted before.... I've posted enough proof for anybody.

Rhema

He didn't doubt the truth, he just didn't know it yet. Don't add to the scriptures.

 

[Rhema]

He didn't doubt the truth, he just didn't know it yet. Don't add to the scriptures.

How can you sit there with all that time having read the scriptures and say the John the Baptist didn't know if Jesus was the Messiah "yet" ??

That's mind boggling.

(Matthew 3:13-17 KJV) Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him. But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him. And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.​

(Mark 1:9-11 KJV) And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in Jordan. And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him: And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.​

Do you truly believe that John the Baptist didn't hear the voice? Stop it.

(Luke 3:21-22 KJV) Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened, And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.​

And you're going to claim that John the Baptist didn't know if Jesus was the Son of God... "yet"...

(John 1:29-34 KJV) The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me. And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water. And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him. And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.​

You need to repent of your claim that John the Baptist didn't know.

Don't take away from the scriptures.

Rhema

 

[God's Truth]

How can you sit there with all that time having read the scriptures and say the John the Baptist didn't know if Jesus was the Messiah "yet" ??

That's mind boggling.

You do seem to have a boggled mind.

(Matthew 3:13-17 KJV) Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him. But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him. And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.​

(Mark 1:9-11 KJV) And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in Jordan. And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him: And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.​

Do you truly believe that John the Baptist didn't hear the voice? Stop it.

(Luke 3:21-22 KJV) Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened, And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.​

And you're going to claim that John the Baptist didn't know if Jesus was the Son of God... "yet"...

(John 1:29-34 KJV) The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me. And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water. And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him. And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.​

You need to repent of your claim that John the Baptist didn't know.

Don't take away from the scriptures.

Rhema

Matthew 11:2Now when John had heard in the prison the works of Christ, he sent two of his disciples, 3And said unto him, Art thou he that should come, or do we look for another? 4Jesus answered and said unto them, Go and shew John again those things which ye do hear and see: 5The blind receive their sight, and the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, and the deaf hear, the dead are raised up, and the poor have the gospel preached to them. 6And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me.

Are you having some spiritual and mind problems? You don't remember you said yourself earlier that John asked?

 

[Garee]

He didn't doubt the truth, he just didn't know it yet. Don't add to the scriptures.

Not knowing the truth causes doubt giving us a desire for the daily hourly bread the food of His will .

 

[Garee]

How can you sit there with all that time having read the scriptures and say the John the Baptist didn't know if Jesus was the Messiah "yet" ??

That's mind boggling.

(Matthew 3:13-17 KJV) Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him. But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him. And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.​

(Mark 1:9-11 KJV) And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in Jordan. And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him: And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.​

Do you truly believe that John the Baptist didn't hear the voice? Stop it.

(Luke 3:21-22 KJV) Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened, And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.​

And you're going to claim that John the Baptist didn't know if Jesus was the Son of God... "yet"...

(John 1:29-34 KJV) The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me. And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water. And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him. And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.​

You need to repent of your claim that John the Baptist didn't know.

Don't take away from the scriptures.

Rhema

I would agree he knew him . The Holy Spirit working in John as it did with David imprisoned (the drinking of blood parable) The Holy Spirit saw their hearts were troubled in doubt .Giving John the faith to look for comfort . and received the answer like a kiss on the lips .Helping us to understand Not only does he teach and comfort but He brings all things to our remembrance, whatsoever has said us.

The gift of a memory yoked with Christ the teacher

John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

 

[God's Truth]

Not knowing the truth causes doubt giving us a desire for the daily hourly bread the food of His will .

No scripture said that John the baptizer doubted the truth!

 

[Rhema]

You do seem to have a boggled mind.

And you seem to be a "know it all" sitting high and above all others.

Are you having some spiritual and mind problems? You don't remember you said yourself earlier that John asked?

Why would John even think about needing to look for another when in ALL the gospels, John identified Jesus as the One, the Christ?

Only doubt would cause the need to ask.

So... I'm not the one with the problem (reading, comprehension, or otherwise) but I know your hardened neck won't allow you to even consider the option that you might be wrong once.

I am tired of your combativeness, cause, while smart, ya ain't all that smart to be perfect in your understanding.

I am inclined to place you on ignore because of these continued tempests in teapots.

Rhema

No scripture said that John the baptizer doubted the truth!

Yes, there is. It's in the FACT that John had to ask.

 

[God's Truth]

And you seem to be a "know it all" sitting high and above all others.


Why would John even think about needing to look for another when in ALL the gospels, John identified Jesus as the One, the Christ?

Only doubt would cause the need to ask.

So... I'm not the one with the problem (reading, comprehension, or otherwise) but I know your hardened neck won't allow you to even consider the option that you might be wrong once.

I am tired of your combativeness, cause, while smart, ya ain't all that smart to be perfect in your understanding.

I am inclined to place you on ignore because of these continued tempests in teapots.

Rhema


Yes, there is. It's in the FACT that John had to ask.

Everything you said about me is what you are and do.

 

[th1bill]

Petty personal remarks are Bible Study?

 

[God's Truth]

Petty personal remarks are Bible Study?

Which one are you giving this petty personal judgement to?
You have been a member here since 2012 and only have a little over 200 posts.
I have been here a little more than two months and have over 1,300 posts.
I give many teachings from the Bible and this petty judgment you want to give to me?
You found nothing better to say to me after all the scriptures I post and explanations I give?
You don't want me to tell people that Jesus says they will be judged with the same measure they use when they insult me and falsely judge me?
You don't want me to defend myself at all, even though the Apostle Paul defended himself against personal insults.

 

[Christ4Ever]

Which one are you giving this petty personal judgement to?
You have been a member here since 2012 and only have a little over 200 posts.
I have been here a little more than two months and have over 1,300 posts.
I give many teachings from the Bible and this petty judgment you want to give to me?
You found nothing better to say to me after all the scriptures I post and explanations I give?
You don't want me to tell people that Jesus says they will be judged with the same measure they use when they insult me and falsely judge me?
You don't want me to defend myself at all, even though the Apostle Paul defended himself against personal insults.

Dear God's Truth,
Apparently, I need to interject since Brother @th1bill observation seems to have hit a nerve, and instead of gaining from it, you have chosen to be insulted by his words. It's always the extra curricula activities (personality evaluations) which cause issue with most postings. They are personal and usually have to do with denigrating the other persons faculties for understanding.
In the quiet moments of contemplation/self-evaluation I'm sure you would agree this is so.

So, I ask this not just as a Moderator, but as a Brother in Christ that when posting to others that you reconsider what you have written, not as it pertains to the subject/topic at hand, for in truth that is between you and God, but rather on how you desire the other to receive/consider what you have posted as a servant of the Most High. Otherwise, I'll further the point I have made here by making it more personal, which is not something I truly desire to do.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Moderator
Nick
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P.S. Brother th1bill is not the only one to have made this observation known to us.

 

[Christ4Ever]

If anyone finds something wrong with me out of the many other posts from many other posters then it is because the truth I speak is what is bothering them. People are offended by the truth I speak. Jesus says it will happen.

Dear God's Truth,
It's not the subject matter that is offensive, but rather the additional personal insulting comments that you include that have nothing to do with the subject matter being discussed. Meaning, you are insulting and demeaning to others. Maybe not so obvious as others may do, but no different in the resulting hurt. If teacher you believe yourself to be, then your methodology has much to be desired if it requires you to say such things in getting your point across, and best done elsewhere. For if in defending yourself you presume the higher ground is to insult in kind, then clearly you don't understand the issue at hand, and if you cannot understand that then you need to learn it. If not here then elsewhere.

With the Love of Christ Jesus.
Moderator
Nick
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