Figure of speech/colloquialism?

[Charlie24]

Someone new looking in may know of examples.

Traditionally Christ was crucified on a Wednesday.

That particular Sabbath had as John said was "a High Day" which was the Passover. The Sabbath was Saturday, which Friday was the preparation day.

The High Day of the Passover was Thursday which joined with that Sabbath, The reason the Sanhedrin demanded Christ be taken down from the Cross before sunset which began the holy day, (The High Day).

When Mary Magdalene found Christ in the Garden, he had already been risen for some 12 hours. Having been in the tomb for exactly 3 days and 3 nights.

 

[rstrats]

Traditionally Christ was crucified on a Wednesday.

That particular Sabbath had as John said was "a High Day" which was the Passover. The Sabbath was Saturday, which Friday was the preparation day.

The High Day of the Passover was Thursday which joined with that Sabbath, The reason the Sanhedrin demanded Christ be taken down from the Cross before sunset which began the holy day, (The High Day).

When Mary Magdalene found Christ in the Garden, he had already been risen for some 12 hours. Having been in the tomb for exactly 3 days and 3 nights.

Why did you quote my post and then comment with issues for a different topic?

 

[Charlie24]

Why did you quote my post and then comment with issues for a different topic?

Sorry! I didn't read all the conversation, only some of it. I thought I was in the scope, obviously not!

Just ignore my ignorance, and I'll try to pay better attention next time.

 

[Rhema]

Traditionally Christ was crucified on a Wednesday.

I'm curious as to why you would represent that view as "Traditionally."

For 1,700 years the church at large held that Jesus was crucified on a Friday. 1,700 is by far Traditional.

Thanks,
Rhema

 

[Charlie24]

I'm curious as to why you would represent that view as "Traditionally."

For 1,700 years the church at large held that Jesus was crucified on a Friday. 1,700 is by far Traditional.

Thanks,
Rhema

If you believe that when Christ said 3 days and 3 nights then you know it was 3 days and 3 nights.

The apostate Church is not what I consider to be the ones holding tradition.

The true Church has always believed in the literal 3 days and 3 nights and believe He was crucified on Wednesday.

 

[Rhema]

The apostate Church is not what I consider to be the ones holding tradition.

That's a very weird view about the word "tradition." Jesus considered the Jews of his time to be apostate, but still spoke of their traditions.

The true Church has always believed in the literal 3 days and 3 nights and believe He was crucified on Wednesday.

Name one. I mean name one person from the "true Church" prior to the reformation in 1517 who believed this.

Thanks,
Rhema

 

[Charlie24]

That's a very weird view about the word "tradition." Jesus considered the Jews of his time to be apostate, but still spoke of their traditions.


Name one. I mean name one person from the "true Church" prior to the reformation in 1517 who believed this.

Thanks,
Rhema

Before the Reformers was the RCC. The leaders of the apostate Church.

Opps did I say that?

 

[Rhema]

Before the Reformers was the RCC. The leaders of the apostate Church.

Opps did I say that?

That's fine, but I don't think that one can say the RCC didn't have any tradition.

Oddly, though, this seems to say that there was no legitimate Christianity for nearly one thousand five hundred years... so nobody could be saved.

Rhema

 

[Charlie24]

That's fine, but I don't think that one can say the RCC didn't have any tradition.

Oddly, though, this seems to say that there was no legitimate Christianity for nearly one thousand five hundred years... so nobody could be saved.

Rhema

God has always had His remnant with the Jews and later the Gentiles, before and during the RCC.

 

[Rhema]

God has always had His remnant

Meaning .... what ??

 

[rstrats]

Oh, and remember, the someone new needs to be someone who believes the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week with a 1st day of the week resurrection, and who thinks that the "heart of the earth" is referring to the tomb, and who tries to explain the lack of a 3rd night by saying that the Messiah was employing common figure of speech/colloquial language of the period and who has examples to legitimately assert that it was common to say that a daytime or a night time would be involved with a event when no part of a daytime or no part of a night time could have occurred.

 

[Charlie24]

Meaning .... what ??

It seemed to me you insinuated there was no Christianity and no one saved without the RCC.

I pointed out that God has always had a remnant.

 

[Charlie24]

It seemed to me you insinuated there was no Christianity and no one saved without the RCC.

I pointed out that God has always had a remnant.

I don't want to derail rstrats thread any further, but I think we are not understanding one another.

The RCC is not the only apostate Church in this world, The protestant Church are for the most part apostate also.

The True Church is a remnant and always has been.

 

[Rhema]

The True Church is a remnant and always has been.

Perhaps a new thread would be beneficial.

A remnant is left over... but left over from what?
How is the remnant composed?
What identifies one as a remnant?

(It could get interesting.)
Rhema

- you obviously think you are one of them, no?
(And I ask because I don't know.)

 

[Charlie24]

Perhaps a new thread would be beneficial.

A remnant is left over... but left over from what?
How is the remnant composed?
What identifies one as a remnant?

(It could get interesting.)
Rhema

- you obviously think you are one of them, no?
(And I ask because I don't know.)

I think it would be interesting! If you start the thread I'll join in.

 

[rstrats]

I think it would be interesting!

Not to mention respecting the issue of this topic.

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

1. The Messiah said that three nights would be involved with His time in the "heart of the earth".

2. There are some who believe that the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week with the resurrection taking place on the 1st day of the week.

3. Of those, there are some who believe that the "heart of the earth" is referring to the tomb.

4. However, those two beliefs allow for only 2 nights to be involved.

5. To account for the discrepancy, some of the above say that the Messiah was using common figure of speech/colloquial language of the time, i.e., that it is was common to forecast or say that a day or a night would be involved with an event when no part of the day or no part of the night could occur.

6. In order for someone to legitimately say that it was common, they would have to know of more that 1 example to make that assertion.


I wonder if there is anyone here that knows of examples?

If you try to figure that our using our calendar you'll never get it...The Jews were using a different calendar. Plus In the week that Jesus was crucified there were two sabbbaths.

 

[rstrats]

If you try to figure that our using our calendar you'll never get it...The Jews were using a different calendar. Plus In the week that Jesus was crucified there were two sabbbaths.

That's an issue for a different topic. Maybe you might start one.

 

[rstrats]

And remember, the someone new needs to be someone who believes the crucifixion took place on the 6th day of the week with a 1st day of the week resurrection, and who thinks that the "heart of the earth" is referring to the tomb, and who tries to explain the lack of a 3rd night by saying that the Messiah was employing common figure of speech/colloquial language of the period and who has examples to legitimately assert that it was common to say that a daytime or a night time would be involved with a event when no part of a daytime or no part of a night time could have occurred.

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

That's an issue for a different topic. Maybe you might start one.

That's on topic....