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Is Jesus God?

I don't want to fight with you. But, you make a statement, quote a verse that does not support your statement, and then go on to contradict all the New Testament tells us about being perfect.
So you don't sin? Don't want to fight? It is quite heretical to propose we don't sin. The only good thing about us now and in heaven is the fact that we are washed by the blood of Jesus.

No, the NT does not teach we are perfect. You misunderstand the verses.
 
Mark 10:18 "So Jesus said to him, "Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is. "God".

KingJ - you quoted the wrong verse.
Sue, Jesus saying ONLY God is good equates to only He is perfectly good in the context of the passage. IE only He is perfect. Not wrong verse.

When we refer to '''perfect''' it is in the context of one who does not sin. AKA one who is....good.
 
So you don't sin?

No, the NT does not teach we are perfect. You misunderstand the verses.

Hebrews 6
Let's leave behind the rudimentary teachings about Christ and go on to perfection.
1 John 3
Every man that has this hope in him purifies himself, even as He is pure.
No one who is born of God sins.
He cannot sin.
1 John 5
If anyone sees his brother committing a sin ... we know that no one who is born of God sins.
 
Sue, this is so plain. But Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses just can't see it. Samson2020 can't see it. Fascinating.

What you people fail to see is that God made TWO people in the beginning, not three! It was God and the Word who made man and woman! The Word came from the bosom of the Father, woman came from the bosom of man. There was no third person made in the image of God and the trinity is a false concept!
 
@Enxu -- You are equating the creation of Adam and then Eve with the trinity?! God formed Adam out of the ground and breathed the breath of life into him and he became a living soul. Then God took the rib by Adam's heart and made Eve.
Jesus Christ, God's Son, did Not come out of God. He's not the Son of God in that sense. Jesus Christ is the 2nd person of the tri-unity. He did have a special 'job' while here on earth, and then returned up to heaven to sit at the right -hand of God the Father.

You're fogeting that the Holy Spirit is included in the tri-unity. All three working together for our salvation amongst other things in God's Word.

Your not understanding it does not make it a false concept. Simply means that you don't understand it.

Lots of things happening in Scripture don't make sense -- but they still did happen.
 
@Enxu -- You are equating the creation of Adam and then Eve with the trinity?! God formed Adam out of the ground and breathed the breath of life into him and he became a living soul. Then God took the rib by Adam's heart and made Eve.
Jesus Christ, God's Son, did Not come out of God. He's not the Son of God in that sense. Jesus Christ is the 2nd person of the tri-unity. He did have a special 'job' while here on earth, and then returned up to heaven to sit at the right -hand of God the Father.

You're fogeting that the Holy Spirit is included in the tri-unity. All three working together for our salvation amongst other things in God's Word.

Your not understanding it does not make it a false concept. Simply means that you don't understand it.

Lots of things happening in Scripture don't make sense -- but they still did happen.

I’m done with the denial of truth with sweeping statements of “Things don’t make sense but they still happen” just because they don’t agree with your beliefs. Not only me but a few others have presented clear and multiple evidences from the Gospel itself which refuted the trinity as false. You people would even go so far as being willing to contradict one verse with another and live in continual denial with your heads in the sand.

You still don’t know that I was once a staunch defender of the trinity to every person I spoke until I examined the Gospel myself and found it to be false. But unlike you people who willingly go onto be deceived for God knows what reason, I am willing to repent of my beliefs if evidences suggest they are faulty. Even God cannot deliver you from a deceptive spirit when you refuse to re-examine what you claim to be true. It is not a wonder why you people will never repent of the lies you’ve believed. The Gospel already foretold it.
 
I’m done with the denial of truth with sweeping statements of “Things don’t make sense but they still happen” just because they don’t agree with your beliefs. Not only me but a few others have presented clear and multiple evidences from the Gospel itself which refuted the trinity as false. You people would even go so far as being willing to contradict one verse with another and live in continual denial with your heads in the sand.

You still don’t know that I was once a staunch defender of the trinity to every person I spoke until I examined the Gospel myself and found it to be false. But unlike you people who willingly go onto be deceived for God knows what reason, I am willing to repent of my beliefs if evidences suggest they are faulty. Even God cannot deliver you from a deceptive spirit when you refuse to re-examine what you claim to be true. It is not a wonder why you people will never repent of the lies you’ve believed. The Gospel already foretold it.


Some things I Don't understand the Why's of -- I accept them by Faith.

For instance -- I don't understand the why's of gravity -- but I see the affects of it every so often. Things fall Down they don't go Up. That is gravitational pull. I felt the affects Of gravity when I fell in my side yard and broke my ankle.

We see the affects of the wind or a breeze -- they can't be seen or understood -- we see the effects Of, but I couldn't explain the Why's of at all.

A deceptive spirit ?! oh, my. Repenting of the lies we've been believing?! Oh, my --Again.
 
Hebrews 6
Let's leave behind the rudimentary teachings about Christ and go on to perfection.
1 John 3
Every man that has this hope in him purifies himself, even as He is pure.
No one who is born of God sins.
He cannot sin.
1 John 5
If anyone sees his brother committing a sin ... we know that no one who is born of God sins.
You are cherry picking these scriptures out of their context and wasting my time.

You sin and you are a Christian as do I. Next topic.
 
King J. as per post # 43 please use the word that's in the verse.
Stop cherry picking a word and grasp context please. I simply cannot believe I am having to explain this to you two. This is Sunday school teaching.
 
Sue, Jesus saying ONLY God is good equates to only He is perfectly good in the context of the passage. IE only He is perfect. Not wrong verse.

When we refer to '''perfect''' it is in the context of one who does not sin. AKA one who is....good.


You -- use the word that is used in the verse -- it's there for a Reason.
 
If you make the assumption that the WORD was NOTHING other than Jesus himself. OK. However if I assume that part of the PLAN of God was to send Jesus into the world to be the sacrifice for sin and to give us the DOCTRINE OF HIS FATHER, which was the Gospel of the Kingdom. Then your assumption fails.
I’m done with the denial of truth with sweeping statements of “Things don’t make sense but they still happen” just because they don’t agree with your beliefs. Not only me but a few others have presented clear and multiple evidences from the Gospel itself which refuted the trinity as false. You people would even go so far as being willing to contradict one verse with another and live in continual denial with your heads in the sand.

You still don’t know that I was once a staunch defender of the trinity to every person I spoke until I examined the Gospel myself and found it to be false. But unlike you people who willingly go onto be deceived for God knows what reason, I am willing to repent of my beliefs if evidences suggest they are faulty. Even God cannot deliver you from a deceptive spirit when you refuse to re-examine what you claim to be true. It is not a wonder why you people will never repent of the lies you’ve believed. The Gospel already foretold it.


Even the very elect would be decieived if it were possible. Must be some strong delusion???? Has the Catholics captive and what what I see most professing Christians.
 
Stop cherry picking a word and grasp context please. I simply cannot believe I am having to explain this to you two. This is Sunday school teaching.


Babes in Christ still on milk are not skillful in the word. Forgive them as their confusion runs them in circles. An example is the Bible is the WORD of GOD but they would say the BIBLE is JESUS also because he is the WORD of GOD made flesh. Not understanding that GODS word is GODs intention or PLAN, not another person.
 
Jesus Christ, God's Son, did Not come out of God. He's not the Son of God in that sense.


This is the confusion I speak of. Jesus was begotten of the Father, you can't be begotten unless someone is your Father and you can't be your own Father. But it's still a mystery
to them.
 
"Begotten" means unique -- one of a kind. Which is what Jesus Christ -- only begotten Son of God means.
 
The deity is unique -- Jesus Christ being the Son of God is unique. The incarnation is unique.
 
Begotten means the progeny of, period. I was begotten of my father, you were begotten of yours. There is no mystery here only confusion because you make it confusion.
God Begat Jesus his Son period.
 
This is the confusion I speak of. Jesus was begotten of the Father, you can't be begotten unless someone is your Father and you can't be your own Father. But it's still a mystery
to them.


Jesus is in unique relationship with God the Father -- please look at John 1:1-3 " He was in the beginning with God. as per vs 2. and Colossians 1:15 - 17
 
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