Is suicide a sin? Do you go to hell for it?

[Trisha]

I could not answer this poll because they didn't have Yes, Maybe. I think the bible says that we shouldn't say who will go to heaven and who won't.
As Christians our desire is to please God, or should be, and he is against murder and counts it as sin. Suicide is premeditated murder of self.
Personally, I would not commit suicide for two reasons, God sees it as sin, and secondly I would not want to take the chance of dying with suicide as unrepentent sin.

 

[bgsda]

How about this one. There is no hell. Not what I read and the God I serve. Hes too loving to have people in agony for eternity. Thats a false doctrine once again made up by the Papacy.God bless

 

[Chad]

How about this one. There is no hell. Not what I read and the God I serve. Hes too loving to have people in agony for eternity. Thats a false doctrine once again made up by the Papacy.God bless

That is incorrect and ignorant. How could you possibly say there is no hell? The bible was not written by "papacy" and it surely mentions hell so many times, even from Christ's mouth in the Gospels. Do you even read the bible?

Quote from GQ? Article:

It is interesting that a much higher percentage of people believe in the existence of heaven than believe in the existence of hell. According to the Bible, though, hell is just as real as heaven. The Bible clearly and explicitly teaches that hell is a real place to which the wicked/unbelieving are sent after death. We have all sinned against God (Romans 3:23). The just punishment for that sin is death (Romans 6:23). Since all of our sin is ultimately against God (Psalm 51:4), and since God is an infinite and eternal Being, the punishment for sin, death, must also be infinite and eternal. Hell is this infinite and eternal death which we have earned because of our sin.

The punishment of the wicked dead in hell is described throughout Scripture as “eternal fire” (Matthew 25:41), “unquenchable fire” (Matthew 3:12), “shame and everlasting contempt” (Daniel 12:2), a place where “the fire is not quenched” (Mark 9:44-49), a place of “torment” and “fire” (Luke 16:23-24), “everlasting destruction” (2 Thessalonians 1:9), a place where “the smoke of torment rises forever and ever” (Revelation 14:10-11), and a “lake of burning sulfur” where the wicked are “tormented day and night forever and ever” (Revelation 20:10).

The punishment of the wicked in hell is as never ending as the bliss of the righteous in heaven. Jesus Himself indicates that punishment in hell is just as everlasting as life in heaven (Matthew 25:46). The wicked are forever subject to the fury and the wrath of God. Those in hell will acknowledge the perfect justice of God (Psalm 76:10). Those who are in hell will know that their punishment is just and that they alone are to blame (Deuteronomy 32:3-5). Yes, hell is real. Yes, hell is a place of torment and punishment that lasts forever and ever, with no end. Praise God that, through Jesus, we can escape this eternal fate (John 3:16, 18, 36).

And our own article here: http://www.talkjesus.com/scriptural-answers/198-hell.html#.ULlAQYPuXa8

 

[bgsda]

The Bible says "he that sinneth shall die". Last time I checked death is being dead. Not burning forever.

 

[bgsda]

Rev 20:11-15 sheds light and so do many, many other texts. We have to read and study what forever and ever mean.

 

[Chad]

Rev 20:11-15 sheds light and so do many, many other texts. We have to read and study what forever and ever mean.

Did you bother to read the link I posted?

http://www.talkjesus.com/scriptural-answers/198-hell.html#.ULlAQYPuXa8

Read, study.

 

[JosephLove]

Only one sin is unforgivable "in this age, neither in the age to come." (Matthew 12:32) Suicide is NOT the unpardonable sin! We have read in Matthew that only that sin will not be forgiven in the coming age, when Christ and the saints rule all nations. This implies that all other sins can be forgiven in the coming age.

How can one say there is no hell? Well, if you study the original Hebrew and Greek texts, you will not find the word "hell" in any of the scriptures. Remember, the King James Bible is only a translated version of the Word of God, that was published in 1611. The word, hell, comes from four different words—sheol, hades, Gehenna, and tartaros. Twelve times in the New Testament, the word Gehenna is used (including the parts about unquenchable fire in the Book of Mark). The problem is that "Gehenna" was actually a real location on Earth! It existed in South Jerusalem and was also known as the Valley of Hinnom. Now, obviously Christ used this location as an example to either represent eternal torture, or to represent the coming Lake of Fire, in which all the bodies and souls of the wicked would be completely burned up.

What was the motive behind translating all four of those words into the word, hell? Since Gehenna was a real location in Jerusalem, why not just leave it as Gehenna, rather than change it to another word?

To answer this poll, yes, everyone who kills him or herself goes straight to hades, because hades means: "Grave, tomb—realm of the dead."

Now here is something very interesting! In the latest version of the NIV Bible, Acts 2:31 says Jesus was in "the realm of the dead." However, in the 1984 version of the NIV Bible, it reads that Jesus was in "the grave." Yet, in the King James version, it says Christ was "in hell!" Why so many changes? Do you see how following these modern-day translations alone can lead one's thinking astray? I am convinced that to study the Bible properly, you have to use Hebrew and Greek translations to better understand the original nature of the written Word.

 

[bgsda]

Hello i agree w what you said

 

[bgsda]

Joseph you are right some of those verses that Chad put up do mean Hades(a literal place). But it can also mean Sheol or abyss as seen in Genesis which only means void or empty. Well i believe if we would only STUDY to show ourselves approved unto GOD, not a pastor or parent, we would find the truth.

Im not saying that boasting God forbid, because I am nothing withiout Christ. We should never ever neglect anyone who is interested in a study of His Word. Christian, New believer, Muslim, etc. You can show them truth or could be shown truth. Also if lets say you have a couple of texts and grab those texts and just run w/them and refuse to see why someone else has something that contadicts what you thought all your life, is it not only pride that would have someone not ask why is this. Please look at these Bible texts.

Matt 25:31-35 these are Jesus words not mine. This proves there absolutely cannot be a HELL. I believe it might be the forever or everlasting part that confuses some of you. Explain Jude 7. Is Sodom and Gommorrah still burning today? Have you seen on CNN, reporters standing next to a burning city today?

Im always open to open up God Word and reason together as God said in Isaiah 1:18.

 

[jari]

That is incorrect and ignorant. How could you possibly say there is no hell? The bible was not written by "papacy" and it surely mentions hell so many times, even from Christ's mouth in the Gospels.

actually christ never used word hell because that word is made up by the translators of the english bible. the only word Christ used was gehanna, which was actually a place near jerusalem where bodies burned so he used it as parable about judgement. However book of revelation talks about lake of fire as the penalty (at the end of the world) for devil and his angels, as well to those whose name is not written in the book of life.


Rev 20:10-15

 

[bgsda]

Yes Jari exactly at the end of the world where the devil will be cast. Not now in some make believe torture chamber. God bless

 

[Dovegiven]

Rev. 21:[7] He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

[8] But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Does anyone assume that Jesus shed his blood and body to allow any follower to live out such sin styles?

"Free choice" is allowance of people to live such lifestyles while subject to any consequences of any choice. Choice allows us to be overcomers. I'll hope to let the scriptures answer where suicide, for whatever reason, fits into those verses.

Whatever and wherever "hell" is (after the first death) makes an interesting topic, but John reports that isn't a good choice for spending one's eternity. Jesus made that abundantly clear, as well documented by previous posters. Dying in a sin assuming one can repent beforehand, somehow retaining forgiveness during, then after the act of self murder, at the least should subject the person to the judgment of God. Why force God into that? Why subject oneself to such a predicament? It's a fearful thing to fall into the hands of God over such decisions.

Overcome. It doesn't specify how excellent an overcomer one should be to inherit eternal bliss. Let God have the last assurance for you at your last breath.
Jim

 

[Thiscrosshurts]

[8] But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

These are all elements that lived in my carnal imagination and they will be done away with when the fire of God burns up the elements with fervent fire at his coming.

My God is an all consuming fire so I am burning in the lake of eternal fire right now and it is tormenting those imaginations inside my mind that rage against God day and night.The first death is Adams death and the second death is Christ's death in us.

Hell is,always was and always will be Greek Mythology.
If you commit suicide then you will end up in the grave.
Don't worry though the grave and death itself will be cast into the lake of the eternal fire of God and then the only things left are "the sons of God".

John 17:24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.

Why would I think I have to die to be where he is,I know where he is.

John 17:23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.

The place he went to prepare for us IS us,and we are already with us.

 

[jari]

Rev. 21:[7] He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

[8] But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Does anyone assume that Jesus shed his blood and body to allow any follower to live out such sin styles?

"Free choice" is allowance of people to live such lifestyles while subject to any consequences of any choice. Choice allows us to be overcomers. I'll hope to let the scriptures answer where suicide, for whatever reason, fits into those verses.

Whatever and wherever "hell" is (after the first death) makes an interesting topic, but John reports that isn't a good choice for spending one's eternity. Jesus made that abundantly clear, as well documented by previous posters. Dying in a sin assuming one can repent beforehand, somehow retaining forgiveness during, then after the act of self murder, at the least should subject the person to the judgment of God. Why force God into that? Why subject oneself to such a predicament? It's a fearful thing to fall into the hands of God over such decisions.

Overcome. It doesn't specify how excellent an overcomer one should be to inherit eternal bliss. Let God have the last assurance for you at your last breath.
Jim

Jim it says there if you overcome you are already God's son, are you not God's son then?

Rom 8:15-16 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. (16) The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

 

[redeemed4life]

I believe suicide is a sin, but I'm not entirely sure that hell is the punishment for it. Cause the only sin someone could commit that results in hell as a punishment is not putting their faith in Jesus Christ.

 

[bgsda]

God is not a cruel God. There is no such thing as hell. Made up by the satan the dexeiver

 

[Chad]

God is not a cruel God. There is no such thing as hell. Made up by the satan the dexeiver

Really? So why does the word hell appear so many times in the bible including coming from Jesus Himself?

Which translation do you read?

http://bible.org/article/what-bible-says-about-hell

http://www.openbible.info/topics/hell

And by the way, where do 'unbelievers' go after they die? Provide Scripture of your answer.

 

[bgsda]

Hi Chad, to the first question about hell, I dont know why it comes up so much. But i know to better understand this hell topic we need to find out the state of the dead and what happens when we die. Itll bring yoir answer out. It starts in Gen 2:7. We are made of dust and breath of life(spirit).

What happens when we die? Eccl 12:7 Body to dust(in the grave), spirit to God
What is the "spirit" that returns to God at death? James 2:26/Job27:3 the spirit that returns at death is the breath of life. Nowhere in all of Gods book does the "spirit" have any life, wisdom, or feeling after a person dies. It is the "breath of life" and nothing more.
What is a "soul"? Gen 2:7 KJV Combination of two things: body plus breath. A soul cannot existunless body and breath are combined. God word teaches we are souls.
Do souls die? Eze18:20KJV/ Rev 16:3 According to Gods Word, souls do die! We are souls, and souls die. Man is mortal(Job4:17). Only God is immortal(1Tim6:15,16). The concept of an undying, immortal soul goes against the Bible, which teaches that souls are subject to death.
Do people go to heaven when they die? John 5:28,29/ Acts2:29,34/ Job17:13 No, people do not go either to heaven or hell at death. They go to their grves to await the ressurection day.

I can go on and on simply put the dead know nothing when they die Eccl 9:5,6,10)/ Psalm 115:17/ Job 14:12,21. JESUS called death a "sleep" why? John 11:11-14 The dead will sleep until the great day of the Lord at the end of the world. In death humans are totally unconcious with no activity or knowledge of any kind=sleep. Now what was Satans fist lie on earth? Gen3:4 "you will not surely die" Job said it perfect in Job21:30,32

This is important to understand. That is the main reson why hell is fake. There are many many more verses. If you want the verses let me know. Hope this helps and God bless you.

 

[MRoe]

If there is a heaven there is a hell. Are you saying there is no heaven either? Most Jesus/bible believing Christians know and believe in heaven and hell. But the original question was, if someone commits suicide, will they go to hell. Saul fell on his sword in battle is he in hell? Only he and God knows. Why argue the point. The main point of this is, throughout the prophesies of the old testament and all the new. Pretty much says that the through faith in Christ we are saved and what he accomplished on the cross. Saved from what? Saved from eternity without God. That's what hell was created for. Satan and his fallen angels, and those who do not accept Christ. They didn't want to be around God anymore, so God said, Okay, I will create a place that I am not at, thus, hell. Unless you know and accept him, him as your savior, you are lost. Going to hell? I would say yes

 

[DutchChristian]

There is no such thing as hell. Made up by the satan the dexeiver

you are in error! as there most certainly IS a hell and you must repent of your strange beliefs not according to the Scripture and it is your error and unbelief not ours.

Do not cast doubt on the Scriptures!

Isaiah 55
8 For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways, saith the LORD.

Read 2 Peter 2 and stop having your own private idea's and stop following after your own imaginations, but go ye instead by the WORD of GOD Alone! Repent!

i am warning you do not continue on in this your error! you are in great danger if you do!

Receive this correction today and repent.

in a way you are calling GOD a liar but in the end GOD Will prove you to be the liar

i am warning you