many or few?

[Beetow]

then apparently you don't believe in the Godhead.

• Heb 3:3-4 . . For this one has been counted worthy of more glory than Moses,
inasmuch as he who built the house has more honor than the house. For every
house is built by someone, but he who built all things is God.

The person spoken of as "this one" is identified by Heb 3:1 as the Apostle and High
Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus; thus clearly declaring that he is God.

I referenced Heb 3:3-4 in the bottom paragraph of post No. 693
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[Bob Carabbio]

It seems the majority of mankind will not be saved.

That's certainly what the Bible consistently states.

 

[Garee]

You are dancing. Answer the question: Is Jesus God? Yes or No?

Do you believe Jesus is God incarnate? Do you belueve in the Trinity: that God is one God consisting of three distinct and eternal persons - the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit?

There is no trinity law.Three can be used .Three is usually used to denote the end of a matter.

I see it more as two attributes of one God .God is Spirit and not a man as us. Two establishes purpose and witness of the father and Son working as one God.

In that way all of the names attributed to God are attributes that describe our supernatural God .He has no nature (mother and father) as a beginning when it comes to the rudiments of this world.

One work of faith or labor of their combined love. Two is the witness of God throughout the bible. It works best for me in the way I reason

1 John 2:22Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.

 

[JerryfromMass]

There is no trinity law.Three can be used .Three is usually used to denote the end of a matter.

I see it more as two attributes of one God .God is Spirit and not a man as us. Two establishes purpose and witness of the father and Son working as one God.

In that way all of the names attributed to God are attributes that describe our supernatural God .He has no nature (mother and father) as a beginning when it comes to the rudiments of this world.

One work of faith or labor of their combined love. Two is the witness of God throughout the bible. It works best for me in the way I reason

1 John 2:22Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.

What do you say to that which is written by John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4In him was life,a and the life was the light of men. 5The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. ... "14And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Sond from the Father, full of grace and truth."

 

[Garee]

The person spoken of as "this one" is identified by Heb 3:1 as the Apostle and High
Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus; thus clearly declaring that he is God.

Clearly as a representitive for God.

The Apostle Jesus sent of God and High Priest of our profession, therefore clearly declaring that he is prophet sent with words of our Father. Not as I will but you father.

Words like in Mathew 4. Three times to denote the end of the matter as it is written (sola scriptura). Words that rebuked the father of lies.

The Son of man had no power in his earthen body of death to rebuke the lying spirit legion.


Mathew 4:4-11 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple, And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone. Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God. Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me. Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him.

Or when the father gave the Son of man Jesus words to rebuke Satan after peter was given word for the father of lies in an attempt to rebuke the lord of glory . Jesus rebuked the father of lies again with words of the father. Peter was forgiven by the father for his blasphemy against the Son of man

Mathew 16: 22-23 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee. But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

 

[Sue D.]

• Heb 3:3-4 . . For this one has been counted worthy of more glory than Moses,
inasmuch as he who built the house has more honor than the house. For every
house is built by someone, but he who built all things is God.

The person spoken of as "this one" is identified by Heb 3:1 as the Apostle and High
Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus; thus clearly declaring that he is God.

I referenced Heb 3:3-4 in the bottom paragraph of post No. 693
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Do you believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

That the trinity consists of God the Father, Jesus Christ His Son / the Son of God and the Holy Spirit.

 

[Sue D.]

That's certainly what the Bible consistently states.

Scripture Does say that the road to eternal hell Is a wide road which is easy to find.

It Also states that there is the other road -- a much narrower one that is easily missed.

However -- we are Also told to share the Gospel of salvation with all who will listen -- we don't just sit around and wait for our personal eternity to begin.

So -- are You one of the few or one of the many? And what do you base that on.

I'm one of the many hundreds of thousands that Do find / have found the narrow path.

 

[Garee]

What do you say to that which is written by John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4In him was life,a and the life was the light of men. 5The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. ... "14And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Sond from the Father, full of grace and truth."

I would say in the beginning was the word of God. It was with us (Emanuel) but not of us that are dead or powerless in our trespass and sins.

The word dwelt in the flesh it did not become what the eyes see (the temporal)


2 Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

New creatures as sons of God are not what they will be when we receive the remainder of the promise our new incorruptible bodies. They as promised will be neither male not female Jew not gentile.

 

[Garee]

Scripture Does say that the road to eternal hell Is a wide road which is easy to find.

It Also states that there is the other road -- a much narrower one that is easily missed.

However -- we are Also told to share the Gospel of salvation with all who will listen -- we don't just sit around and wait for our personal eternity to begin.

So -- are You one of the few or one of the many? And what do you base that on.

I'm one of the many hundreds of thousands that Do find / have found the narrow path.

Yes there is no light on the path to hell the suffering of this life .

 

[JerryfromMass]

I would say in the beginning was the word of God. It was with us (Emanuel) but not of us that are dead or powerless in our trespass and sins.

The word dwelt in the flesh it did not become what the eyes see (the temporal)


2 Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.

New creatures as sons of God are not what they will be when we receive the remainder of the promise our new incorruptible bodies. They as promised will be neither male not female Jew not gentile.

With what denomination are you affiliated?

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Scripture Does say that the road to eternal hell Is a wide road which is easy to find.

It Also states that there is the other road -- a much narrower one that is easily missed.

However -- we are Also told to share the Gospel of salvation with all who will listen -- we don't just sit around and wait for our personal eternity to begin.

So -- are You one of the few or one of the many? And what do you base that on.

I'm one of the many hundreds of thousands that Do find / have found the narrow path.

I was Born Again of the Holy Spirit back in '63, which makes me one of the FEW. But I DIDN'T look for "it". "It" found me - several times. And the LAST time I was drawn to Christ, I repented, Surrendered, and cried out to HIM in FAITH (that He gifted) for salvation. and everything changed.

 

[JerryfromMass]

I was Born Again of the Holy Spirit back in '63, which makes me one of the FEW. But I DIDN'T look for "it". "It" found me - several times. And the LAST time I was drawn to Christ, I repented, Surrendered, and cried out to HIM in FAITH (that He gifted) for salvation. and everything changed.

That's how it's done. The Holy Spirit does HIS part, you do your part. Done.

 

[Beetow]

Was Jesus' mother his:

1» Biological parent?

2» Surrogate parent?

3» Foster parent?

4» Adopted parent?

5» Other?
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[JerryfromMass]

Was Jesus' mother his:

1» Biological parent?

2» Surrogate parent?

3» Foster parent?

4» Adopted parent?

5» Other?
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Miriam was chosen by God to be the earthly vessel in which God would begin life as fully human while maintaining HIS full deity. It's reasonable to assume that, by and through HIS omnipotence, God made it so that Jesus started out just like the rest of us: first as a zygote, and then progressing through the gestation period until birthed.

 

[Beetow]

God made it so that Jesus started out just like the rest of us: first as a zygote

A woman was made from a man's body; but is it possible to reverse the process,
i.e. make a man from a woman's body?

From whence would come the necessary Y chromosome? I'm told that only biological
fathers can supply it.
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[B-A-C]

From whence would come the necessary Y chromosome? I'm told that only biological
fathers can supply it.
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And yet, who does the Bible say is Jesus's biological Father?

 

[Bob Carabbio]

A woman was made from a man's body; but is it possible to reverse the process,
i.e. make a man from a woman's body?

Happens every day in maternity wards -

From whence would come the necessary Y chromosome? I'm told that only biological
fathers can supply it.

You apparently missed the part where the HOLY SPIRIT WOULD OVERSHADOW MARY. You SERIOUSLY think that God (who created the universe) would have a problem coming up with a "Y Chromosome". Get real!!!!
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[Sue D.]

Mary and Joseph were considered the legal parents of Jesus in the Jewish culture. BUT Mary was a virgin at the time that Jesus was conceived -- she became pregnant by the Holy Spirit coming upon her.

Joseph and Mary did not come together as husband and wife until After the birth of Jesus Christ.

 

[Beetow]

who does the Bible say is Jesus's biological Father?

That would be David.

• Rom 1:1-3 . . Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David
according to the flesh

The Greek word for "seed" in that passage is sperma (sper'-mah) which is a bit
ambiguous because it can refer to spiritual progeny as well as to biological progeny;
for example:

• Gal 3:29 . . If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed.

That seed is obviously spiritual progeny; whereas David's seed is biological because
it's "according to the flesh" i.e. his physical human body.

Also:

• Acts 2:30 . .Therefore [David] being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn
with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would
raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

Greek words for "according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ" are not in the
manuscripts. The KJV's editors took the liberty to pencil them into their English
translation.

However, Greek words for "fruit of his loins" are in the manuscript. Those are
reinforced by the wording of the oath at 2Sam 7:12 where again David's seed is
clearly implied to be physical rather than spiritual.

See also Psalm 132:11 where it's said: The Lord has sworn to David, a truth from
which He will not turn back: "Of the fruit of your body I will set upon your throne."

You SERIOUSLY think that God (who created the universe) would have a problem
coming up with a "Y Chromosome".

It's very crucial that the Y chromosome for making Jesus not be created from
scratch because it had to be David's chromosome in order for Jesus to qualify as
the fruit of David's loins, i.e. David's seed according to the flesh.
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[B-A-C]

Jesus is a descendant of Adam and Abraham and David through Mary.
Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit, Mary was a virgin even after Jesus was born.

Luke 1:27; to a virgin engaged to a man whose name was Joseph, of the descendants of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.
Luke 1:34; Mary said to the angel, "How can this be, since I am a virgin?"
Luke 1:35; The angel answered and said to her, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; and for that reason the holy Child shall be called the Son of God.

Matt 1:18; Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: when His mother Mary had been betrothed to Joseph, before they came together she was found to be with child by the Holy Spirit.

Matt 1:23; "BEHOLD, THE VIRGIN SHALL BE WITH CHILD AND SHALL BEAR A SON, AND THEY SHALL CALL HIS NAME IMMANUEL," which translated means, "GOD WITH US."
Matt 1:24; And Joseph awoke from his sleep and did as the angel of the Lord commanded him, and took Mary as his wife,
Matt 1:25; but kept her a virgin until she gave birth to a Son; and he called His name Jesus.

t's very crucial that the Y chromosome for making Jesus not be created from
scratch because it had to be David's chromosome in order for Jesus to qualify as
the fruit of David's loins, i.e. David's seed according to the flesh.

This is false. The heirship can be passed on the mother side. In fact it was in a couple of cases.

Num 27:1 Then the daughters of Zelophehad, the son of Hepher, the son of Gilead, the son of Machir, the son of Manasseh, of the families of Manasseh the son of Joseph, came near; and these are the names of his daughters: Mahlah, Noah and Hoglah and Milcah and Tirzah.
Num 27:2 They stood before Moses and before Eleazar the priest and before the leaders and all the congregation, at the doorway of the tent of meeting, saying,
Num 27:3 "Our father died in the wilderness, yet he was not among the company of those who gathered themselves together against the LORD in the company of Korah; but he died in his own sin, and he had no sons.
Num 27:4 "Why should the name of our father be withdrawn from among his family because he had no son? Give us a possession among our father's brothers."
Num 27:5 So Moses brought their case before the LORD.
Num 27:6 Then the LORD spoke to Moses, saying,
Num 27:7 "The daughters of Zelophehad are right in their statements. You shall surely give them a hereditary possession among their father's brothers, and you shall transfer the inheritance of their father to them.
Num 27:8 "Further, you shall speak to the sons of Israel, saying, 'If a man dies and has no son, then you shall transfer his inheritance to his daughter.
Num 27:9 'If he has no daughter, then you shall give his inheritance to his brothers.
Num 27:10 'If he has no brothers, then you shall give his inheritance to his father's brothers.
Num 27:11 'If his father has no brothers, then you shall give his inheritance to his nearest relative in his own family, and he shall possess it; and it shall be a statutory ordinance to the sons of Israel, just as the LORD commanded Moses.'"