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Psychotropic drugs = Pharmakeia = Sorcery?

lawrenceb are you of the belief that only God can deliver and no one else?

I hope you don't mind me jumping in on this, if you do you can destroy me in hand to hand combat if you wish.

In my honest opinion there isn't a problem with trusting that God provides all healing. The difference comes when people rely on miraculous events that are entirely super natural. Like one day having end stage lung cancer, then waking up the next say with it gone. No way am I saying this is impossible, but how often do miracles like these actually happen? I truly believe that God doesn't just perform supernatural unexplained miracles. He performs miracles through people, which includes medical science.

See what I'm saying? Sorry just wanted to toss this in there somewhere. :)
 
Allow me to add alittle here, as I feel what "thiscrosshurts" added is really enough so i will be very short here> Romans 14-1--my interpertation--"get off the back of fellow brethern and sisters who are in the Lord , dont judge them because their faith is not up to the level of yours." --ok a bad interpertation but yall know what i mean---as long as a person is not in sin, lay off them if they take meds for an illness.
 
The well-washed brain or the renewed mind?

Thanks for the many replies.

philosopher's statements:
One example I can think of is this- if your family member was rushed to emergency, having epileptic seizures, wouldn't you take a benzodiazepine drug to quell the symptoms, instead of risking possible death?
In an addictions ministry for many years, my wife and I have seen devil-possessed people manifest in front of us. We have seen so many manifestations that we keep a record/journal just in case the info might become useful at some later point in time (and indeed it has on a few occasions). And there are commonalities that cannot be denied.

In any crisis situation, the enemy will be right there to offer his version of a solution; it will always be presented at one's moment of greatest vulnerability. The scenario you describe is a spiritual classic. In fact, the transnational drug corporations have it down to literally a science. They are masters at "creating the problem you need." And the reason is a no-brainer for those with the discernment: satan wants the glory that is rightfully due Christ and so will set-up situations where he can be the one to receive his perverted version of "glory" -- at your expense, of course...

Fear is the master. Fear is a demonic spirit, given access via one's exercise of self-will, which is opposed to God's Will. Fear is of satan. However, the Lord says,

For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind. (2 Timothy 1:7)

Show me the Godly power, love, and sound mind exhibited by one who jumps for the drug. Only one who is afraid would jump to have their family member take the offered "benzodiazepine drug." As I stated earlier, when a person's problems reach a crescendo, they will be in a state of mind to grab any solution that is passing by. People then make pacts with demonic forces. They sell their souls hoping for relief from their problems.

All this is clear as a bell to the spiritually enlightened, but the demonic forces are able to dull the senses of their victims to the point they no longer have the slightest realization that they have sold their souls. People make a choice to accept the falsehood offered by the demons for their relief, rather than stick with the truth which seems to hurt.

As far as your "instead of risking possible death" rationale, your attempt at justification is in line with the majority, where,

...every man did that which was right in his own eyes (Judges 2:25 KJV and many others).

This is because you don't comprehend what is beyond this life, so you just try to hold on to what you have in front of you e.g. your physical life. You think that physical longevity is the measure of a successful earthly life and so naturally you make choices that further that goal.

However, the Lord says,

Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it. (Luke 17:32 KJV and many others).

Because the command to ...love not [your life] unto the death (Revelation 12:11 KJV) is ignored, satan, the accuser of the brethren (Revelation 12:11 KJV) has legal right to access you.


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An easy way to dismantle plenty of the conspiracies is to examine a persons relationship with Christ. We know that sin separates us from God (Isaiah 59:2) - so if these people were truly in bondage, and sinning, they wouldn't be able to love the Lord and have that kind of personal relationship with him. And many people using medication have good hearts and are walking in the spirit. I'm still deciding not to turn back to psychotropic drugs, but for other reasons...
According to scripture, a majority would say they are "Christians," yet they are not even born again. Self-deception reigns.

And the words "conspiracy" and "conspired" are Biblical words, appearing 29 times in the Word of God. Look around you, my friend; people on such neuroleptics are hurting. Back to those observable commonalities I mentioned earlier.

If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord. A double minded man is unstable in all his ways. (James 1:1-5)


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I actually agree with a lot you have said lawrenceb. I am just not buying into the stand against modern medicine.
I have no "stand against modern medicine." I repeat, the gist of the convo between philosopher and myself has been about the spiritual (and physical) consequences of looking to the transnational drug corporations as their authority while accepting pharmaceuticals as a healing solution, the bondages that result from that, and getting set free from those bondages. It's about how to wage successful spiritual warfare and get set free.

Meanwhile, the slaves who work the hardest are the ones who merely believe they are free. I'm not here to rain on anybody's self-will parade. You will do what you want; for the rest who want to be set free, please continue to pm me.


I won't sugarcoat it, I strongly believe some of your views to be fueled by conspiracy theories that have been made up and continue to have a strong lack of evidence. No offense at all, but I am just being honest. I hope that you can respect that.
Honesty is certainly essential, yet it's not a "respect" issue. When the "conspiracy theory" retort is foisted, we know the worldly conditioning is in full bloom. Truth is, a truthseeker who truly wanted such "evidence" would've have asked for it, but you didn't. And I won't cast any pearls, either.
 
Having had several close death illnesses, that now require me to be on many different medications, I can speak with real knoledge. Cancer is very painful, and thank the Lord we have those pain killing drugs. Yes they do cause thinking problems and do give a high and a low feeling as well. I have has clotts in my lungs and taken drugs for that too. I am on blood thining medicine for the rest of my life, again I thank the Lord for medicine. I spent one fourth of my time in the Navy in a hospital, and I take medicine for that issue as well. Frankly I shoullld have died many times over, but for medicine (drugs) I would not be alive today. T suggest that there are drugs that can heal and keep us alive, and those same drugs some would use to get high and sell on the illegal drug market. It is all who and what is the drug used for.
 

Fear is the master. Fear is a demonic spirit, given access via one's exercise of self-will, which is opposed to God's Will. Fear is of satan. However, the Lord says


Depends on the degree though. I would agree that when a person lives in paralyzing fear, it is caused by demonic influences. But everyone experiences slight fear and worry over mundane things, from time to time. But the difference is, it doesn't control their life. Thus, no strongholds are created as a result and its just satan trying to get his cheap shots in occasionally.



Only one who is afraid would jump to have their family member take the offered "benzodiazepine drug." As I stated earlier, when a person's problems reach a crescendo, they will be in a state of mind to grab any solution that is passing by.

Seizures are a result of a physical problem and aren't always brought on by a persons sin or negligence. So claiming people only reach for a drug when their problems reach a crescendo isn't quite accurate. We live in a fallen world and sometimes this happens even to the best of people.

People then make pacts with demonic forces. They sell their souls hoping for relief from their problems.

So are you equating a person using drugs to dull pain, as the same as someone who willfully makes a pact with Satan, with full knowledge of what they're doing? Why doesn't the bible mention this explicitly? Why isn't there solid scripture to back up most of these claims?


According to scripture, a majority would say they are "Christians," yet they are not even born again. Self-deception reigns.

I was speaking on those who are born-again. I wouldn't even bother calling those who aren't as Christians.
 
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the use or administering of drugs

Depends on the degree though. ...But the difference is, it doesn't control their life.
Almost pregnant? Here we go, back to the dialetic, the worldly drive to consensus. Your "degree [of control]" argument won't hold with the Lord (or with satan).

And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, (2 Cr 6:16, 17 KJV)


No offense, but you are ignorant of the dynamics of spiritual warfare.

There is no other legitimate purpose for any human action than the advancement of the Kingdom of God. Patriotism (advancing the interests of a political coalition) is wrong; Humanism (advancing your own personal interests) is wrong; Satanism (advancing demonic interests) is wrong. Since all action runs to some purpose, if the purpose is not the building of God's Kingdom, then it is to build a rival Kingdom. There is no neutrality.


Thus, no strongholds are created as a result and its just satan trying to get his cheap shots in occasionally.
There's nothing "cheap" about satan. The point is, by being off the Lord by that one "degree," satan has thus been given the legal authority he requires to affect your life. As I've stated, satan doesn't have to kill you outright, he can merely steal your Godly walk.

So claiming people only reach for a drug when their problems reach a crescendo isn't quite accurate.
It's precisely a "quite accurate" response to your "family member... having... seizures" and "benzodiazepine drug" scenario!

Why doesn't the bible mention this explicitly? Why isn't there solid scripture to back up most of these claims?
It does and there is. Haven't you read my previous posts and your pm's? And there's more scripture:

And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with [Babylon], shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning, And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more: The merchandise of...the souls of men. (Revelation 18:9, 11, 12 KJV)

The merchants, the rich men of the earth, buy and sell the souls of men. I pray you're listening.

And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not... Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts. (Revelation 9:20, 21 KJV)

The merchants, the rich men of the earth, will not repent of their sorceries:

sorceries = pharmakeia (Strong's #G5331) = the use or administering of drugs

And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in [Babylon]; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. (Revelation 18:23 KJV)

The merchants, the rich men of the earth, used sorceries to deceive all nations:

sorceries = pharmakeia (Strong's #G5331) = the use or administering of drugs

An earlier question still remains unanswered:

Was it the Lord who told you to submit to the transnational drug corporations?
 
Lawrenceb, you are so right about something. You are so right about people who reject the truth. You can show them all the evidence in the world and they will never believe it. Similar to how the Pharaisees work. I had a friend who was an exChristian. I tried telling him that Psychiatry was not correct because the medicine can do possible permanent harm to the brain. I also say that those medicine take away your essence. You are a person who seems to be healed but in actual fact you are not. I also told him that John Nash was healed naturally and not through psychiatric medicine. He told me that how do i know since John Nash received psychiatric treatment before. The psychiatric treatment could play a part in his healing. I told him that a lot of the mass shooting incidents are due to psychiatric medicine. He refused to believe me. You know how ridiculous this is. The facts could be easily verified. He refused to verify the facts. Even made fun of Christianity by abusing it and saying that it is a old religion when I never used the Christian point of view to argue but I try to argue from his stand. The most ridiculous thing he said was that God prefers moral people similar to Hitler prefering certain races. You know how ridiculous this statement is coming from an ex Christian? Actually I now realize that God is just when He condemns someone. They just refuse to listen anymore. It is like God made them totally blind to the truth. They will reject the truth no matter how convincing they are. I do not think it is ignorance here. I think it's God's judgement. When someone has offended God to a point, God will just let them go their ways and perish.
 
Eph 5:18 And do not get drunk with wine, for that is dissipation, but be filled with the Spirit,

Alcohol is a drug. A little isn't always bad.
1 Tim5:23 No longer drink water exclusively, but use a little wine for the sake of your stomach and your frequent ailments.

But if you are drunk in whatever your drug of choice is. ( If you aren't incomplete charge of your faculties, i.e. slurred speech, staggering, etc... )
It's interesting that many liquor stores call hard alcohol "spirits". Of course this because alcohol evaporates quickly, but I can't help but notice how drugs and alcohol
change the personality of people some times.
 
Eph 5:18 And do not get drunk with wine, for that is dissipation, but be filled with the Spirit,

Alcohol is a drug. A little isn't always bad.
1 Tim5:23 No longer drink water exclusively, but use a little wine for the sake of your stomach and your frequent ailments.

But if you are drunk in whatever your drug of choice is. ( If you aren't incomplete charge of your faculties, i.e. slurred speech, staggering, etc... )
It's interesting that many liquor stores call hard alcohol "spirits". Of course this because alcohol evaporates quickly, but I can't help but notice how drugs and alcohol
change the personality of people some times.

Well. yeah. But we are not talking about alcohol now. We are talking about psychiatric drugs. The thing is. Do you trust God to heal you of your personal problem? Do you trust God to heal you of the strange behavoir that you have. Or you trust psychiatry. The alternative. I think lawrenceb hits the mark. It is clear as day that if you accept psychiatry there will be consequences. I am talking about physical consequences like weight gain, loss of memory, loss of thoughts, slow thinker, etc. Generally, a loss in personality. What are those symptons linked with? A loss in life. So do you think you want to lose your life just so that you can get "cured"?
 
...the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not (2 Cor 4:4 KJV)
 
No, I do not participate in Facebook. I pick and choose my battles, and Facebook is one battlefield I have chosen to avoid. The battle today is not over who has the most bullets; it's about who has the most information. Every electronic signal/transmission in the world today is monitored and databanked. It's about info, and Facebook is simply one more such databank that is regularly mined by malevolent entities.
 
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...the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not (2 Cor 4:4 KJV)

Back in the dark age when Parasites could NOT be SEEN. When people were sick by a parasite their sickness was seen a caused by evil spirits. If some drug medication happened to poison and kill the unseen Parasite and the person was cured. because of superstition it must have looked like some sort of Magic sorcery witchcraft drug Potion caused by more powerful demons to cure the person. Some religious people must have thought God was telling them this but in reality they were blinded by their own personal thinking. Now we have microscopes and science that can SEE the TRUTH in what is Going on.
In the OT God did Sometimes heal through Physicians. Luke was a Physician.
 
Back in the dark age when Parasites could NOT be SEEN. When people were sick by a parasite their sickness was seen a caused by evil spirits. If some drug medication happened to poison and kill the unseen Parasite and the person was cured. because of superstition it must have looked like some sort of Magic sorcery witchcraft drug Potion caused by more powerful demons to cure the person. Some religious people must have thought God was telling them this but in reality they were blinded by their own personal thinking. Now we have microscopes and science that can SEE the TRUTH in what is Going on.
In the OT God did Sometimes heal through Physicians. Luke was a Physician.
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Luke (under God) was one thing; today’s transnational drug corporations (under mammon) are another... The issue remains the same: Who do we look to, for the authority to do the things we do? Because it is unto that authority that we will render.</SPAN></SPAN>

And an earlier question still remains unanswered:

Was it the Lord who told you to submit to the transnational drug corporations?
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Who told you to take the drug(s)? Fear is the master, specifically trauma-based fear. Caesar (i.e. man’s God-less purported authority) hits you with the trauma, then layers-in the fear programming.

Demons are attracted by the "scent" of people. We are made in the image of God, and we are attractive prey to those who hate God Almighty. Cities are magnets for demons. When demons target a person or people, a common tactic is to make trouble for the person. When a person's problems reach a crescendo, they will be in a state of mind to grab any solution that is passing by. People then make pacts with demonic forces. They sell their souls hoping for relief from their problems.

All this is clear as a bell to the spiritually enlightened, but the demonic forces are able to dull the senses of their victims to the point they no longer have the slightest realization that they have sold their souls. People make a choice to accept the falsehood offered by the demons for their relief, rather than stick with the truth which seems to hurt.

Strong demonic manifestations usually occur around festivals, ceremonies, rituals and pilgrimages which are being done everyday around the world. These ceremonies and rituals are welcome mats for demonic forces giving them the right to rule. Every area of the world has them. And often demonic signs and wonders occur at these rituals and ceremonies. The power of a lie has to be preserved and fueled by tradition, which is manifested via rituals. Without tradition the power of the lie would die out. If the tradition is being rejected by a people, the demons often augment it with "new" deceptions. The first lie doesn't stand a chance.

The pre-existing bondage then is strengthened by new deceptions that seem more appropriate. If you were asked now, "HOW DOES SATAN ENSLAVE PEOPLE?" you should know the answer because it was just given it to you. The answer is Satan's control is trauma-based. A trauma is applied to the lives of people. They reach out for some type of answer to the trauma, and the demons offer some type of answer--so many Hail Mary’s, or so many sacrificed cats, or pray to some idol which is a disguised demon. The lies are turned into myths which the people believe. The myths are a blurring of reality which the people on one level may know are false, but their minds can't break loose of the power of the lie. The power of the myths is fueled by tradition and demonic manifestations and demonic attacks.

Anyone who steps outside of the demonic lie is attacked. The people feel they are being personally attacked when their traditions are ignored. Because a people has willingly sacrificed the truth for the falsehood in their need for relief from their trauma, they have chosen to be deceived. This choice to be deceived has a great deal of spiritual power to it. They are no longer truth-lovers. It is not enough to come to these people with the truth. They have rejected the truth. They must at some point will to seek the truth again. These people can have all the proof shown to them about the truth, and they will continue to reject it. Their demonic bondage needs to be broken somehow.

This bondage can be broken in a number of ways. Pointing out the inadequacies of the lies is sometimes sufficient to break the demonic spell over people. But after the lies are broken, they need to be followed by the truth--and the love of truth. The programming that is being done to humanity on a large scale can also being scaled down and applied to a single human body.

Trauma and lies are used in the same way. Souls are sold to the lies in return for their safety. A basic ingredient to the programming of a group of people is the same--trauma and fear.
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Luke (under God) was one thing; today’s transnational drug corporations (under mammon) are another... The issue remains the same: Who do we look to, for the authority to do the things we do? Because it is unto that authority that we will render.</SPAN></SPAN>

And an earlier question still remains unanswered:

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Who told you to take the drug(s)? Fear is the master, specifically trauma-based fear. Caesar (i.e. man’s God-less purported authority) hits you with the trauma, then layers-in the fear programming.

Demons are attracted by the "scent" of people. We are made in the image of God, and we are attractive prey to those who hate God Almighty. Cities are magnets for demons. When demons target a person or people, a common tactic is to make trouble for the person. When a person's problems reach a crescendo, they will be in a state of mind to grab any solution that is passing by. People then make pacts with demonic forces. They sell their souls hoping for relief from their problems.

All this is clear as a bell to the spiritually enlightened, but the demonic forces are able to dull the senses of their victims to the point they no longer have the slightest realization that they have sold their souls. People make a choice to accept the falsehood offered by the demons for their relief, rather than stick with the truth which seems to hurt.

Strong demonic manifestations usually occur around festivals, ceremonies, rituals and pilgrimages which are being done everyday around the world. These ceremonies and rituals are welcome mats for demonic forces giving them the right to rule. Every area of the world has them. And often demonic signs and wonders occur at these rituals and ceremonies. The power of a lie has to be preserved and fueled by tradition, which is manifested via rituals. Without tradition the power of the lie would die out. If the tradition is being rejected by a people, the demons often augment it with "new" deceptions. The first lie doesn't stand a chance.

The pre-existing bondage then is strengthened by new deceptions that seem more appropriate. If you were asked now, "HOW DOES SATAN ENSLAVE PEOPLE?" you should know the answer because it was just given it to you. The answer is Satan's control is trauma-based. A trauma is applied to the lives of people. They reach out for some type of answer to the trauma, and the demons offer some type of answer--so many Hail Mary’s, or so many sacrificed cats, or pray to some idol which is a disguised demon. The lies are turned into myths which the people believe. The myths are a blurring of reality which the people on one level may know are false, but their minds can't break loose of the power of the lie. The power of the myths is fueled by tradition and demonic manifestations and demonic attacks.

Anyone who steps outside of the demonic lie is attacked. The people feel they are being personally attacked when their traditions are ignored. Because a people has willingly sacrificed the truth for the falsehood in their need for relief from their trauma, they have chosen to be deceived. This choice to be deceived has a great deal of spiritual power to it. They are no longer truth-lovers. It is not enough to come to these people with the truth. They have rejected the truth. They must at some point will to seek the truth again. These people can have all the proof shown to them about the truth, and they will continue to reject it. Their demonic bondage needs to be broken somehow.

This bondage can be broken in a number of ways. Pointing out the inadequacies of the lies is sometimes sufficient to break the demonic spell over people. But after the lies are broken, they need to be followed by the truth--and the love of truth. The programming that is being done to humanity on a large scale can also being scaled down and applied to a single human body.

Trauma and lies are used in the same way. Souls are sold to the lies in return for their safety. A basic ingredient to the programming of a group of people is the same--trauma and fear.
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You say >''Luke [under God] is one thing. Today's Transnational drug corporations [under mammon] are another''...Your Question> Was it the Lord who told you to submit to the Transnational drug corporations ?

Today's Transnational ''food'' corporations are [under mammom] Yet we buy food from them. Do we submit to the Transnational food corporations ?
We are not under mammon. They are under mammon. How can it be about our submission to them ?
Selling your soul if you take a drug to kill a living parasite that has got into your body because the drug comes from Transnational drug corporations [under mammon]. With this type of reasoning one is selling his soul when he eats FOOD that comes from Transnational food corporations [under mammon]. The list goes on with all the other different type corporations with different type things we need.

There is a case when Madeline kara Nuemann of Winconsin. USA. Madeline aged 11 died on March 23 2008 after her parents prayed for healing rather then get medical help for a treatable form of diabetes. Both her parents Pentecostal Christians were convicted of second-degree reckless homoside and face up to 25 years in prison.
Is this how God treats his people for their faith. Their daughters death with prison on top ?...Does not God ''Also'' heal through Physicians aslong as you seek his help for healing in prayer ?
There is no doubt that God will heal divinely. Also if you don't seek his help for healing in prayer things can and will go wrong through Physicians so you don't get healing.
It was ONCE thought by people of God in the OT that ONLY sickness and other problems came on the wicked as a curse. And the righteous stay in health and have no problems as a blessing. But with the book of Job it showed otherwise. People who think God ONLY heals one way or does things one way will be shown otherwise. In Eccles it shows> Do not to be over righteous and over wise. Why destroy yourself. Avoid extreems...
Alcoholic wine is a ''drug'' and in itself is not evil. Paul advised timothy to take a little wine for his stomach problems. Wine that now comes from corporations [Under Mammom] does not make it invalid for christians. A drug in itself is not evil and is valid when being used for the RIGHT reason for a medical purpose.
Like Jehovah witnesses who have a extreem opinion and doctrine about not using blood in medical intervention. A heresy that kill and destroy Peoples lives. We have some pentecostal Christians who have a extreem opinion and doctrine about not using drugs in medical intervention. A heresy that kill and destroy peoples lives.
 
The dialectic is an argument against that which is fact or absolute, either a fact of science or an absolute of scripture, and either a doctrine in scripture (truth) or a moral position from scripture.

If someone presents the scientific facts from a huge number of studies in the peer review literature that vaccinations cause various kinds of brain damage, especially to very young children, as shown, for example by a review by Dr. Russell Blaylock (this forum does not allow me to give links), and spokesmen for the giant pharmaceutical corporations, or for the medical elite, or individual doctors argue against these facts, then this is the dialectic. The pharmaceutical corporations, medical elite and individual doctors are arguing against the facts of science when they say that vaccinations are necessary to protect the public and that vaccinations are not harmful. In the review article on the harmful effects of vaccinations on the human brain Russell Blaylock lists a large number of studies in the journals.

In Revelation 18 merchants appear several times, from the Greek word emporos, that is, a merchant is an emporos. On page 508 of A Linguistic Key
to the Greek New Testament, Vol 2, by Fritz Rienecker, emporoi in
Revelation 18: 23 is defined as "merchants who deal in foreign exports." Imporoi are world traders.

World traders in our timeline are the giant international corporations, and included among the giant international corporations are the big pharmaceutical companies.

Revelation 18: 13 says about these international traders that "And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men."

The international traders deal with the souls of men. Revelation 18: 23 can help us to understand how the intrnational traders, the giant corporations, including the pharmaceutical companies, deal in the souls of men. "And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived."

"Thy merchants" refers to the international traders of the metaphoric construct called Babylon in Revelation 17 and 18, which also appears in Jeremiah 50 and 51. Babylon, or the Babylon of Prophecy, is more than an economic system, because the verse just cited talks about the voice of the bridegroom and the bride not being heard no more at all in this Babylon.

Sorceries in Revelation 18: 23 is from pharmakeia, which Strong's (number 5331) says means "medication, by extension, magic, sorcery, witchcraft."

The very expensive drugs that the giant pharmaceutical corporations sell to people not only have many harmful physiological effects, but can also change the brain, especially medications for depression, anxiety, etc, and in that process can affect one's spiritual condition. And it is important to throw off the deception and realize that pharmaceutical drugs do not regenerate man's body, as can nutrition, regular exercise, stress reduction, and being inspired by the Lord, having his joy.

In addition, in a more general way, the deception of the giant international corporations puts people into states like hypnosis, or mental stupor, and dumbs them down not only intellectually but also spiritually. As long as a person is alive, he or she is under mammon to some extent. Answering an Alter Call, joining a church or attending church does not in itself cause one not to be under mammon. Coming out from the bondage to mammon involves the Holy Spirit in developing one's individual spirit, which is man's third part. Body and mind are under mammon.
 
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Amen.

Considering the OP, and the mere dialectic arguments which have occurred thereafter, it is not surprising that the following critical question remains unanswered:

Was it the Lord who told you to submit to the transnational drug corporations?
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Obviously, it wasn't. Then who? Only one other choice remains.

Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? (Romans 6:16 KJB).

Fear is his master. Fear of death. But God hasn't given his people that foul spirit:

For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind. (2 Tim. 1:7 KJB).

How does one get victory? He doesn't fear of his own physical death. He doesn't make his choices based on the enemy's spirit of fear. He doesn't worry if it costs him his life, if it means remaining in obedience to his Master Jesus Christ.

And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. (Rev. 12:11 KJB).

Don't be fooled into the enemy's fear-based reactions:

There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death. (Pro. 14:12; 16:25 KJB).
 
The dialectic is an argument against that which is fact or absolute, either a fact of science or an absolute of scripture, and either a doctrine in scripture (truth) or a moral position from scripture.

If someone presents the scientific facts from a huge number of studies in the peer review literature that vaccinations cause various kinds of brain damage, especially to very young children, as shown, for example by a review by Dr. Russell Blaylock (this forum does not allow me to give links), and spokesmen for the giant pharmaceutical corporations, or for the medical elite, or individual doctors argue against these facts, then this is the dialectic. The pharmaceutical corporations, medical elite and individual doctors are arguing against the facts of science when they say that vaccinations are necessary to protect the public and that vaccinations are not harmful. In the review article on the harmful effects of vaccinations on the human brain Russell Blaylock lists a large number of studies in the journals.

In Revelation 18 merchants appear several times, from the Greek word emporos, that is, a merchant is an emporos. On page 508 of A Linguistic Key
to the Greek New Testament, Vol 2, by Fritz Rienecker, emporoi in
Revelation 18: 23 is defined as "merchants who deal in foreign exports." Imporoi are world traders.

World traders in our timeline are the giant international corporations, and included among the giant international corporations are the big pharmaceutical companies.

Revelation 18: 13 says about these international traders that "And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men."

The international traders deal with the souls of men. Revelation 18: 23 can help us to understand how the intrnational traders, the giant corporations, including the pharmaceutical companies, deal in the souls of men. "And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived."

"Thy merchants" refers to the international traders of the metaphoric construct called Babylon in Revelation 17 and 18, which also appears in Jeremiah 50 and 51. Babylon, or the Babylon of Prophecy, is more than an economic system, because the verse just cited talks about the voice of the bridegroom and the bride not being heard no more at all in this Babylon.

Sorceries in Revelation 18: 23 is from pharmakeia, which Strong's (number 5331) says means "medication, by extension, magic, sorcery, witchcraft."

The very expensive drugs that the giant pharmaceutical corporations sell to people not only have many harmful physiological effects, but can also change the brain, especially medications for depression, anxiety, etc, and in that process can affect one's spiritual condition. And it is important to throw off the deception and realize that pharmaceutical drugs do not regenerate man's body, as can nutrition, regular exercise, stress reduction, and being inspired by the Lord, having his joy.

In addition, in a more general way, the deception of the giant international corporations puts people into states like hypnosis, or mental stupor, and dumbs them down not only intellectually but also spiritually. As long as a person is alive, he or she is under mammon to some extent. Answering an Alter Call, joining a church or attending church does not in itself cause one not to be under mammon. Coming out from the bondage to mammon involves the Holy Spirit in developing one's individual spirit, which is man's third part. Body and mind are under mammon.

With Wine being a drug taking to much wine regular will damage the brain. A little wine regular does not damage the brain and benefits. The medical science has got to get things right when it comes down to drugs. Its about getting the balance right. One should know that when having to take drugs to much dosage is damaging less dosage is not and the right dosage benefits without damaging.
When you get flu and your immune system is activated. ''This causes brain damage''. Because your natural immune system produces toxins to kill the flu virus. When you get better. The brain repairs itself....Dr Russell could by right about vaccines because activating the immune system too regular means your brain is not given time to repair itself....There are Bad, Average and brilliant doctors. One must not blindly follow the guidence of Just any doctor.
Like you can have physical trauma in a car accident resulting in physical ''Pain''. One can have mental trauma through lifes circumstances. If you lose you spouse and children in a disaster. You will have the sever mental and emotional ''Pain'' of depression. It takes a long time for these types of severe Pain to Go away. How does one deal with severe pain from a car accident without morphine or severe mental and emotional pain without anti-depressant ?.....How does one go about having a tooth extraction without drugs ?

With what you are saying about the souls of Men being under mammon regarding Pharmaceutical corporations. We got the same problem about souls of men being under mammon regarding Food, Clothing, electronics etc etc Corporations. We got to ''buy'' the things we need. We have got to Eat and have Clothing etc etc . So how does One escape ?
From these Corporations We have to buy Gas, electricty for heating. fuel for cars.
 
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