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The GodHead

  • John 14:16-17
    And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever-- the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you.

    Note please Howard that the Holy Spirit is the Counselor.

    The world cannot accept who?

    He is invisible, unknown to the world.

    This is not God the Father or Jesus, both are
    referenced within scriptures. This counselor
    lives with you and will be in you. The
    Holy Spirit portrayed here as "he", this
    is not a power or force but "he".


    The Holy Spirit points us to Jesus, the Holy
    Spirit can be blasphemed. The Holy Spirit
    is a divine person Howard. You cannot
    blaspheme a force or a power, you can only
    blaspheme a divine person.

    That is why the baptism mentions three
    names not two. Personality is always
    attributed to the Holy Spirit. Our
    Holy Spirit can be grieved at your
    conduct.

    If you were to baptize people in only
    two names you would be in error.
    You must follow the apostolic instructions.

    Three names constitute three persons
    in one God. The Holy Spirit is active
    and works with us since Jesus has
    returned to His Father. Alas, when
    two or three are gathered in the name of
    Jesus then I am present. The Holy Spirit
    is present with two or three. The Holy
    Spirit is God.

    If what you claimed was true the baptismal
    statement would not be in the form it is.

John 14 gives the job description of the Comforter, yet the chapter does not call him God or says that he belongs to the Godhead
 
Acts 8:16 (KJV)
(For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)

The name of Jesus is the name we are baptized in
 
i believe if youll look at acts ch. 5 it will give the description of the Holy Spirit being God, peter said why hath santan put in youre heart youre heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, ye have not lied to man but, unto God.{ not a direct quote.}
 
Compare Acts 5 to what Solomon says below

Ecclesiastes 5:6 (KJV)
Suffer not thy mouth to cause thy flesh to sin; neither say thou before the angel, that it was an error: wherefore should God be angry at thy voice, and destroy the work of thine hands?

When we vow a vow or a make a promise to God who takes it to the Lord? Some would say that The Father here's all are prayers at once or as one , and some would argue the prayers are taken up to him by our angel


Matthew 18:10 (KJV)
Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.


Each one of us has a angel at our side
 
Are their actually three members of the Godhead?

Or, is their only one God with three personalities?

How many are there, one, two, or three?

Where should we search this out?

Should we ask our pastors and rely on what he says?

If he is a type of pastor that says, "There are this many or that many," without showing you in the Old and the New Testaments find some one else and ask them the question.

This is a description of a preacher, take good heed to a brother like this.

And moreover, because the preacher was wise, he still taught the people knowledge; yea, he gave good heed, and sought out, and set in order many proverbs. The preacher sought to find out acceptable words: and that which was written was upright, even words of truth.

(Ecclesiastes 12:9-10)

If you have an instructor like that you are truly blessed.
 
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. (Genesis 1:26)

Note what God says,"Let us make man in our image." The word "us" implies more than one correct? But, that could mean two or two million. Some people say, "These were angels that God was talking to." Was it? What does the word image mean?

It means a reproduction of a person or an object, especially a sculptured likeness.

Note this in the verse, "after our likeness."
 
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Why did the Lord switch the wording when he created man? Take a look at this verse in Genesis chapter one. And God made the beast of the earth

after his kind and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

(Genesis 1:25)

In the 26th verse God said that man would be after His likeness not after His kind. Meaning man would look like Him but, will not be made of the same substance, God is a spirit, man is a soul meaning flesh and blood.


But, people continue to say, "It’s only one God, and He was talking to the angels.
 
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One God who is the Father of Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit is one and the same as God the Father. No difference. The Holy Spirit is the Father's Spirit that He sends to all who are in Christ, and to all who ask.

One Son of God. Jesus Christ, who the Father God (The Great I AM who spoke to Moses) has bestowed all the power of the godhead which means this:

G2320
θεότης
theotēs
theh-ot'-ace
From G2316; divinity (abstractly): - godhead.

God has placed Jesus as second in command. He is deity, above all other names. He is who God works through to perform His perfect will. This God of Jesus' is the one we pray to for the baptism of the Holy Spirit in the name of Jesus.

God bestows some of the power of His divinity upon all who He calls Sons of God. That includes angels. But none have more power than His Christ, except the Father Himself.

Incredible how things get all twisted up when commentaries of those who are chasing each others tails are held to rather than taking the whole of scripture itself.
 
"Incredible how things get all twisted up when commentaries of those who are chasing each others tails are held to rather than taking the whole of scripture itself."

Amen.
 
One God who is the Father of Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit is one and the same as God the Father. No difference. The Holy Spirit is the Father's Spirit that He sends to all who are in Christ, and to all who ask.

One Son of God. Jesus Christ, who the Father God (The Great I AM who spoke to Moses) has bestowed all the power of the godhead which means this:

G2320
θεότης
theotēs
theh-ot'-ace
From G2316; divinity (abstractly): - godhead.

God has placed Jesus as second in command. He is deity, above all other names. He is who God works through to perform His perfect will. This God of Jesus' is the one we pray to for the baptism of the Holy Spirit in the name of Jesus.

God bestows some of the power of His divinity upon all who He calls Sons of God. That includes angels. But none have more power than His Christ, except the Father Himself.

Incredible how things get all twisted up when commentaries of those who are chasing each others tails are held to rather than taking the whole of scripture itself.

where is the HS called God?

where are your scriptures to support your theory?

you are correct it is twisted I'm more confused now than before you posted
 
[h=3]John 1 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

I read 2 in this verse The Word who was God and God who the Word is with

where is the God HS?

please put scriptures instead of a opinion

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Revelation 6

12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

]13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

]17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?



In verse 16 we have someone sitting on the Throne and we have the Lamb

I still read 2 in the last book of the bible at the last days when Jesus comes.
 
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let me head to the OT and see if I can find God the HS


Isaiah57
15 For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.

God is dwelling with God

I continue to read 2

tell me how am I twisting this?
 
lets read what the wisest man to ever live has to say about this subject


Proverbs 30v4
Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?

I read 2
 
What about the post concerning the Godhead

1 Corinthians 11:3 (KJV)
But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

We have a God who is Jesus who is the head of man

We have a God who is The Father who is the head of Jesus

I read 2 Gods who are the heads

1 God is the head of man this is Jesus
1 God who is the head of Jesus this is God the Father

Why was God the HS left out?

Someone will you call and ask your spiritual leader to answer this question
It is an absolute strain of imagination to suggest statement 1 can even be remotely true.
There is no rendering of:
  • ‘The head of woman is man
  • and the head of man is Christ
  • and the head of Christ IS GOD
which suggests that ‘Christ is God’?
Otherwise you would ALSO need to say that:
  • ‘Woman is Man’
  • ‘Man is Christ’
No, what the verse shows is that Jesus IS NOT GOD but rather, Jesus has GOD as HIS HEAD... his Father is greater than he! My God, my God... I am going to MY GOD ...and Father!!! Not two: TO God and TO the Father - but my God WHO IS THE FATHER.

AND...
  • For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. - 1 John 5:7 KJV
Please please please tell me you know that is a completely FALSE VERSE that was introduced INTO THE SCRIPTURES by Trinitarians who CLAIMED they were trying to clarify their belief....

Oh my Lord... you CANNOT PROVE TRUTH by ADDING A LIE!!!!

Please tell everyone who presents you with this verse that it has been SCRUBBED from ALL CREDIBLE BIBLES... You would have to search hard to find it today.

And I ask why trinity needs to falsify scriptures in order to ATTEMPT (still fails) to justify its ideology - SURELY it can be seen that ANY DISINGENUOUSNESS in a system that claims truth results in being UNTRUTH, even if some parts or even the greater part is true. Simple logic dictates:
  • ‘True + False = FALSE’
  • ‘False + True = FALSE’
Only this works:
  • ‘True + True = True’
 
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