The Trinity doctrine is a man made doctrine. The men who came up with it said there are three coequal, coeternal, persons who are one God. That's what Trinitarians mean when the speak of a Trinity. It seems you're defining that differently. But the vast majority describe it the way I stated. I think it's pretty clear if we look at the Scriptures that that's not the case.
You conveniently left out vs 15 where Jesus is identified as a created being. God had no beginning.'For by Him were all things created,
that are in heaven, and that are in earth,
visible and invisible,
whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers:
all things were created by Him, and for Him:
And He is before all things,
and by Him all things consist.
And He is the head of the body, the church:
Who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead;
that in all things He might have the preeminence.
For it pleased the Father that in Him should all fulness dwell;
And, having made peace through the blood of His cross,
by Him to reconcile all things unto Himself;
by Him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.'
(Col 1:16-20)
Praise God!
Hi Chris, I often find that many ascribe this doctrine to the the unknowable. In many other things I can agree with that. For instance, how does God raise the dead? I don't know. However, I find the opposite with this doctrine. I don't find the infinite mind of God. I find the finite mind of man. Man reading something he hasn't quite grasped and instead of looking to reason he has accepted that which is illogical and absurd. The passages of Scriputre that refer to Jesus as God can easily be understood in a manner that is quite logical. That being the case why would we look to that which is illogical? I think it's pretty clear that those who wrote the Athanasian Creed didn't have a good grasp of Scripture. It's like those who wrote the Westmisbter Confession, who said God is the author of all things yet He is not the author of sin. That is an illogical statement. Sin is a thing. If God was the author of all things then the statement requires that sin is included. This statement is based in an erroneous theology. But, rather than say, hey our theology is illogical they simply dismissed it and calimed it some mystery beyond our comprehension. No it's not. It's illogical and wrong. It's the same with the Trinity doctrine. It's not beyond our comprehension, it's just illogical and wrong. Just like those who wrote the Westminster Confession, people refuse to look at their theology and say it's wrong.
You know, at the end there's gonna be a counterfeit trinity of Dragon, the Sea Beast and the Earth Beast, right? Call it whatever you want, that's a counterfeit of the original, and it's coming. Satan only counterfeits what's originally created by God and proven to be working. If this was just a "man made doctrine", Satan wouldn't counterfeit it, and it wouldn't have been illustrated to John in Revelation.
I'm not aware of anything in Scripture that says Satan is counterfeiting anything. I think theology is too much opinion and not enough Scripture.
So...Let's see now...You do not believe in the trinity....you do not believe in the rapture.....What else do you not believe? Do you believe Jesus is God at all?
How does vs 15 say that Jesus is created? It says no such thing. It says Jesus is the visible image of the invisible Father.....When you look at Jesus you are seeing the Father
I do believe in Trinity, I don’t believe in “three gods in one”; I do believe in rapture, I don’t believe in alien abduction.
“I will be LIKE the most high;” (Is. 14:14)
I didn't say, I don't know. I said I don't see it in Scripture. Satan, the Beast and prophets, plural, is more that three isn't it?
Those "many" false prophets will rally under the leadership of only one, the great harlot of Babylon. It is written in the Scripture that she's the "mother of all harlots", and yet she's only counted as one. And in case you missed it, that's a counterfeit of the woman of apocalypse and her offsprings in ch. 12.
Many are counted as one. That seems to have a recurring theme in this thread.
Great, show me where I said "many are counted as one" verbatim. I only said "she (the great harlot of Babylon)" is counted as one, I've never said "many" are counted as one. Besides, it's neither an "opinion" nor a "theology" that many false religions are being incorporated into the climate change cult, that's what's happening in the real world. If you truly believe that the Scripture is alive and active, you better pay attention.
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I repeat, I've never said "many are counted as one" verbatim, don't put your words into my mouth.
Sir, what doesn't exist is the DOCTRINE of "three co-equal persons", which always falls into either of two heresies: tritheism - three gods, or modalism - three forms of one god. Neither of these is taught in the Scripture, and that's where it falls apart.
