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What Does The Bible Say About ABORTION?

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And just where did I say that?

Good to hear you agree with judging. Not what you supported in post # 27.


And you're still killing a baby.

How do you feel knowing that you believe your own daughter is guilty of a crime that according to you should warrant a death by stoning if she lived in the OT?
 
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The woman is guilty of murder.
Some have used "objects" to "scramble" the child and then go to the E.D. claiming "miscarriage".
Simply, an abortion is murder of the (innocent) unborn as a result of someone else's actions.



I asked you a direct question. A Christian judges all things 1 Cor 2:15.

Is your judgement that any and all abortionists at any week deserve capital punishment? YES or NO?
 
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Can you (reader) truly call yourself a "Christian" if you're pro-choice?
God says, "No."


Hello, still new here.
The Bible does not directly mention the term "abortion," but it does provide many principles and teachings that guide Christians in understanding the sanctity of human life, the value of unborn children, and God's role as the Creator of life. Based on these biblical principles, many Christians believe that life begins at conception and that unborn children are precious in the eyes of God.
I also believe this.

My Opinion.
Here are some key biblical teachings that speak to the issue of abortion and the value of life:


1.​

The Bible teaches that God is the Creator and giver of all life, and human life is valuable because it is made in the image of God.
Genesis 1:27 (NIV): “So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.”
Job 33:4 (NIV): “The Spirit of God has made me; the breath of the Almighty gives me life.”
From the very beginning of Scripture, human life is portrayed as sacred and divinely created by God. Because human beings are made in the image of God, they possess inherent dignity and value, which is why the taking of innocent life is considered a grave sin.

2.​

The Bible expresses that God knows and cares for individuals even before they are born, highlighting the value of life in the womb.
Psalm 139:13-16 (NIV): “For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well. My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place, when I was woven together in the depths of the earth. Your eyes saw my unformed body; all the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be.”
This passage from Psalms speaks powerfully about how God is intimately involved in the creation of life in the womb, knitting a person together with care and intention. It underscores the belief that God knows each person even before birth and has a plan for their life.

Jeremiah 1:5 (NIV): “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.”
In this verse, God tells Jeremiah that He knew him even before he was formed in the womb and had a specific purpose for his life. This further reinforces the biblical understanding that life is sacred from the very beginning, and God has a purpose for each life even before birth.

3.​

The Bible frequently portrays children as a blessing and gift from God.
Psalm 127:3 (NIV): “Children are a heritage from the Lord, offspring a reward from him.”
Children, including the unborn, are seen as a blessing from God. This view supports the idea that every child has intrinsic value and is a precious gift, further affirming the sanctity of life from conception.

4.​

The Bible's commandment against murder reflects the high value placed on human life, which if life is at conception is as I believe.
Then my opinion is this, is murder.
Exodus 20:13 (NIV): “You shall not murder.”
This commandment is one of the central moral teachings in the Bible and is interpreted by many Christians as applying to the unborn as well. Since God is the giver of life, only He has the authority to take it away. Abortion is often viewed as the taking of innocent life, which falls under this commandment.

5.​

While the Bible upholds the sanctity of life, it also emphasizes God’s grace and forgiveness for those who have sinned. The Bible teaches that through Christ, there is forgiveness and healing for all sins, including decisions related to abortion.
1 John 1:9 (NIV): “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.”
For those who have experienced abortion or have been involved in such decisions, the Bible offers hope through the gospel. God’s grace is extended to everyone, and forgiveness is available for those who seek it with a repentant heart.

6.​

The Bible calls believers to protect the weak, defenseless, and those who cannot protect themselves.
Proverbs 31:8 (NIV): “Speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves, for the rights of all who are destitute.”
This verse is often cited by Christians as a call to advocate for the unborn, who are seen as among the most vulnerable and defenseless in society. Believers are called to stand up for the lives of those who cannot yet speak for themselves.

My Opinion​

While the Bible does not explicitly mention abortion, its teachings on the sanctity of life, God’s care for the unborn, the value of children, and the commandment against killing lead many including myself to conclude that abortion is morally wrong. At the same time, the Bible emphasizes God’s grace, love, and forgiveness for all who turn to Him, offering healing and restoration to those who seek it.

For Christians, the issue of abortion is often viewed through the lens of protecting the dignity and value of every human life, from conception onward, while also extending compassion to those who have faced difficult decisions.

Again these are just my opinions, based in scripture.
 
Hello, still new here.
The Bible does not directly mention the term "abortion,"
(Just curious how long it's going to take until you consider yourself not new :) )

But the Didache does directly mention abortion, and it was in the Bible (i.e. considered authoritative scripture) until some Catholics took it out.

My Opinion.
And well said. Thank you.

Just a few observations, if I may...
Job 33:4 (NIV): “The Spirit of God has made me; the breath of the Almighty gives me life.”
I rather like the Septuagint here:

(Job 33:4 LXX) The Divine Spirit is that which formed me, and the breath of the Almighty that which teaches me.​

Psalm 139:13-16 (NIV):
Same here:

(Psalms 139:13 LXX) For thou, O Lord, hast possessed my reins; thou hast helped me from my mother's womb.​

God bless,
Rhema
 
(Just curious how long it's going to take until you consider yourself not new :) )

But the Didache does directly mention abortion, and it was in the Bible (i.e. considered authoritative scripture) until some Catholics took it out.


And well said. Thank you.

Just a few observations, if I may...

I rather like the Septuagint here:

(Job 33:4 LXX) The Divine Spirit is that which formed me, and the breath of the Almighty that which teaches me.​


Same here:

(Psalms 139:13 LXX) For thou, O Lord, hast possessed my reins; thou hast helped me from my mother's womb.​

God bless,
Rhema

I would figure a month and I would not be new :)
I say new guy, so when joining a forum people wont think I am being pretentious.
Its hard to enter a group at times not knowing how people will accept you.

Thank you for sharing the scriptures, and the context .

Blessing as well.
 
Hello, still new here.
The Bible does not directly mention the term "abortion," but it does provide many principles and teachings that guide Christians in understanding the sanctity of human life, the value of unborn children, and God's role as the Creator of life. Based on these biblical principles, many Christians believe that life begins at conception and that unborn children are precious in the eyes of God.
I also believe this.

My Opinion.
Here are some key biblical teachings that speak to the issue of abortion and the value of life:


1.​

The Bible teaches that God is the Creator and giver of all life, and human life is valuable because it is made in the image of God.
Genesis 1:27 (NIV): “So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.”
Job 33:4 (NIV): “The Spirit of God has made me; the breath of the Almighty gives me life.”
From the very beginning of Scripture, human life is portrayed as sacred and divinely created by God. Because human beings are made in the image of God, they possess inherent dignity and value, which is why the taking of innocent life is considered a grave sin.

2.​

The Bible expresses that God knows and cares for individuals even before they are born, highlighting the value of life in the womb.
Psalm 139:13-16 (NIV): “For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well. My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place, when I was woven together in the depths of the earth. Your eyes saw my unformed body; all the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be.”
This passage from Psalms speaks powerfully about how God is intimately involved in the creation of life in the womb, knitting a person together with care and intention. It underscores the belief that God knows each person even before birth and has a plan for their life.

Jeremiah 1:5 (NIV): “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.”
In this verse, God tells Jeremiah that He knew him even before he was formed in the womb and had a specific purpose for his life. This further reinforces the biblical understanding that life is sacred from the very beginning, and God has a purpose for each life even before birth.

3.​

The Bible frequently portrays children as a blessing and gift from God.
Psalm 127:3 (NIV): “Children are a heritage from the Lord, offspring a reward from him.”
Children, including the unborn, are seen as a blessing from God. This view supports the idea that every child has intrinsic value and is a precious gift, further affirming the sanctity of life from conception.

4.​

The Bible's commandment against murder reflects the high value placed on human life, which if life is at conception is as I believe.
Then my opinion is this, is murder.
Exodus 20:13 (NIV): “You shall not murder.”
This commandment is one of the central moral teachings in the Bible and is interpreted by many Christians as applying to the unborn as well. Since God is the giver of life, only He has the authority to take it away. Abortion is often viewed as the taking of innocent life, which falls under this commandment.

5.​

While the Bible upholds the sanctity of life, it also emphasizes God’s grace and forgiveness for those who have sinned. The Bible teaches that through Christ, there is forgiveness and healing for all sins, including decisions related to abortion.
1 John 1:9 (NIV): “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.”
For those who have experienced abortion or have been involved in such decisions, the Bible offers hope through the gospel. God’s grace is extended to everyone, and forgiveness is available for those who seek it with a repentant heart.

6.​

The Bible calls believers to protect the weak, defenseless, and those who cannot protect themselves.
Proverbs 31:8 (NIV): “Speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves, for the rights of all who are destitute.”
This verse is often cited by Christians as a call to advocate for the unborn, who are seen as among the most vulnerable and defenseless in society. Believers are called to stand up for the lives of those who cannot yet speak for themselves.

My Opinion​

While the Bible does not explicitly mention abortion, its teachings on the sanctity of life, God’s care for the unborn, the value of children, and the commandment against killing lead many including myself to conclude that abortion is morally wrong. At the same time, the Bible emphasizes God’s grace, love, and forgiveness for all who turn to Him, offering healing and restoration to those who seek it.

For Christians, the issue of abortion is often viewed through the lens of protecting the dignity and value of every human life, from conception onward, while also extending compassion to those who have faced difficult decisions.

Again these are just my opinions, based in scripture.
People need to drop the "This specific word isn't in the Bible so God never spoke on it."
100% untrue.
God set the human standard with Adam and Eve. Straight. Heterosexuality. God even performed the first marriage. Anything NOT that, LGB+ and all the sexual sins related to it are sin and no Christian can support any sin.

Unborn babies are alive from conception. Can't change how we look or reproduce.
Luke 1:41 "
And when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, the baby leaped in her womb. And Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit,"
God also knew us before he formed us in the womb. I don't care what this evil, sinful world think regarding fighting FOR unborn baby murder.

Lots of words "didn't exist" back then but it doesn't mean the person, place, act, thing, etc. wasn't known.
 
The problem in America in this is that people don't value human life.
The fact that elective abortion/murder of the unborn is so EASILY done and supported by so many.
God is The Judge. Many women have regret and have repented but given the ones who don't, they will face judgment. Murder is that regardless of whether it's an unborn baby or any number of examples.
People want to argue "viability" as a reason. Who has the authority to decide that? WHO decides that unborn baby, a person on life support with low odds, the elderly, disabled, etc. that are no longer "worthy"?
Too many women have been taught/brainwashed that an unborn baby "isn't "alive/person" until it's born despite evidence since we've existed.
Too many men have been taught/brainwashed in the same but also lie/manipulate women to get what they want.
If more women kept their legs SHUT, had better self-worth, and chose better men in the pursuit of marriage there wouldn't be so many unplanned pregnancies.
If more men kept control of themselves, had better self-worth, and chose better women in the pursuit of marriage there wouldn't be so many unplanned marriages.
We know we're not going to change a majority of them but we can't be lenient on any sin.

I'd rather stand in front of God knowing I was not lenient on murder in any shape for form than those who'll stutter and make excuses for doing so.
 
Good post. I agree with all you have stated.

Perhaps you can take a stab at a question that @Rhema and @MedicBravo are running from?

The underlying issue that 'pro-choice' advocates have with anti-abortionists is that our statements imply that any abortion is murder at the maximum level. IE If there was a Christian only court, all abortionists would receive the death penalty or life imprisonment.

Question: If you were a Christian judge at a Christian court in a Christian country, would you always give the maximum punishment for an abortion at any week?

Please don't do the following:

@Rhema evades by saying ''God is the judge and not us. We must not judge because they can repent''.
@MedicBravo says ''all abortion is murder and killing a baby. They must receive punishment as such.''

My answer and judgement on the matter is in post # 33.

Good Morning, I would be happy to take a approach at this.
As a Christian I would have to look at several variables, based on Grace, Sin, and my own Judgment.
So I will try and break this down if I may:
As a Christian, it's essential to approach difficult moral and legal questions with both truth and grace, reflecting the character of God as revealed in the Bible. When discussing issues like abortion, it is important to understand the balance between justice and mercy, as well as the complex nature of human circumstances. Let’s explore this in light of Scripture.

1.​

Christians believe that human life is sacred and that life begins at conception (as seen in Psalm 139:13-16). Therefore, abortion is viewed by many Christians as taking innocent life, which is strongly condemned in Scripture, such as in the commandment "You shall not murder" (Exodus 20:13). From this perspective, abortion is considered a grave moral wrong.
However, while justice is central to Christian teaching, the Bible also emphasizes mercy, repentance, and forgiveness. God is just, but He is also merciful, offering forgiveness to those who repent of their sins (see 1 John 1:9). So this has to be part of the process.

2.​

If one were to hypothetically serve as a judge in a Christian court, the Bible provides principles for administering justice that reflect both God’s holiness and His compassion. While God abhors sin, including the taking of innocent life, He also demonstrates mercy and grace throughout Scripture.
Micah 6:8 (NIV): “He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.”
A Christian judge would have to act justly but also be called to love mercy. These two values are not mutually exclusive in God’s eyes, and a Christian judge would need to discern the heart, circumstances, and level of repentance of the person involved. Not a one size fits all according to scripture.

3.​

One example that reflects Jesus’ approach to sin and judgment can be seen in John 8:3-11, when a woman caught in adultery was brought before Jesus. The law demanded death by stoning, but Jesus challenged the self-righteousness of the accusers and responded with both truth and mercy. He did not condone the sin, but neither did He rush to the harshest possible punishment: This is a very important lesson.
  • John 8:7 (NIV): “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.”
  • After her accusers left, Jesus said: “Then neither do I condemn you. Go now and leave your life of sin” (John 8:11).
In this instance, Jesus showed mercy, offering the woman an opportunity to repent and change, even though the law at the time called for severe punishment. So should it be in the question you asked.

4.​

The New Testament teaches that believers are to approach moral and legal questions with both justice and mercy, in accordance with God’s nature. A Christian judge in such a scenario would need to carefully weigh the circumstances of each case and consider whether the maximum penalty is warranted or whether there is an opportunity for repentance, forgiveness, and restoration. I want to emphasize this last line in red. Key to answering your question.

While the sanctity of life is an undeniable biblical principle, so too is the importance of mercy and grace. In many cases, women seeking abortions may be doing so out of desperation, fear, or coercion. Christian compassion would demand that these factors be taken into account. The goal of any legal or judicial system in a Christian context should not merely be punishment, but also redemption and restoration where possible. This is why I consider my self a Christ Follower, over the go to " Christian " . Why I am a Christian, my lessons come from the Lord.
James 2:13 (NIV): “Judgment without mercy will be shown to anyone who has not been merciful. Mercy triumphs over judgment.”

5.​

Christian theology places a high value on repentance and forgiveness. If someone involved in abortion recognizes their sin and seeks forgiveness, a Christian judge should consider that, as God is always willing to forgive those who repent.

Luke 15:7 (NIV): “I tell you that in the same way there will be more rejoicing in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who do not need to repent.”
Thus, while a Christian court might take a serious view of abortion, it would also seek to reflect God’s desire for healing and restoration.

So My Opinion in this hypothetical :​

If a Christian judge were to preside in a Christian court in a Christian country, the decision to apply the maximum punishment for abortion would need to be tempered with discernment, taking into account God's justice and mercy. While the Bible clearly values life and opposes the taking of innocent life, it also calls for compassion, mercy, and forgiveness.

Therefore, it is unlikely that a Christian judge would always give the maximum punishment for abortion in every case. Instead, they would seek to reflect both the justice of God (recognizing the gravity of taking life) and the mercy of God (offering hope, forgiveness, and restoration to those who repent and seek transformation). This approach honors the full character of God, who is both just and merciful.


Hope this helps .

Thank You for posing the question, I love questions like these. Gets the mind moving in scripture.

Bless You for the opportunity to answer this. I hope I did the question justice.
 
Not really, but at least you took a stab at it.

Well its biblically sound. Not sure what answer you are looking for?
Maybe you are asking the wrong question?

If you do not want a Christ Follower to answer biblically ?
Then that really is where the issue is, is you are asking this the wrong way.

If you only knew........................................... This was written by me years ago in text.
And is published. I just edited it, to apply to you.
So basically you are saying the Bible is wrong LOL.
I said I was new to this group, not to service or God. LOL.

Good Luck on your venture to answer what you seek, perhaps someone else can guide you to the answer.
I can not answer a biblical inquire as you ask, without biblically answering it that way.
 
Not really saying that. A woman always knows. She has to perform an action to abort. Action of taking a pill. Action of going to a doctor. There will certainly always be a moment when she judges herself.

Escaping judgement with God all depends on how harsh one judges themselves. Phil 2:12 is clear that it needs to be done in fear and trembling. 1 Cor 11:31 is clear that God will not judge us if we properly judge ourselves.

My judgement is in post # 33. Am I to assume your judgement is that an abortion in the germinal stage is 10/10 evil and that you would sentence said individual to death or life imprisonment?
You said, "A woman always knows. She has to perform an action to abort. Action of taking a pill." Here you, by a slip of the tongue, admit you know she carries a future member of the human society... a baby. Murder is sin and sin, unrepented, results in eternity in the Lake of Fire,
 
You said, "A woman always knows. She has to perform an action to abort. Action of taking a pill." Here you, by a slip of the tongue, admit you know she carries a future member of the human society... a baby. Murder is sin and sin, unrepented, results in eternity in the Lake of Fire,

100%

I am not disputing that they don't know. Abortion is intentional and a sin. The degree of sin however, depends on the week of pregnancy.
 
2Kings 6 - 7
26And as the king of Israel was passing by upon the wall, there cried a woman unto him, saying, Help, my lord, O king. 27And he said, If the LORD do not help thee, whence shall I help thee? out of the barnfloor, or out of the winepress? 28And the king said unto her, What aileth thee? And she answered, This woman said unto me, Give thy son, that we may eat him to day, and we will eat my son to morrow. 29So we boiled my son, and did eat him: and I said unto her on the next day, Give thy son, that we may eat him: and she hath hid her son. 30And it came to pass, when the king...

read on in your Bible, including on to chapter seven
 
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@KingJ

Greetings,

this does not actually stand up.


The point is that many good people have been naïve about abortion and had one.

That one can be naïve about it and still do it, shows that capital punishment cannot be the judgement.

Perhaps let us ask why a person can not claim naïvity for robbery, armed or not; arson; planned murder or assassination; kidnapping; abduction; spouse beating; torture; child rape; etc etc etc.
Or, can they?

One might agree that most people today know that those things are not acceptable and to some extent, deters that some from committing such acts against others.

But, how do they know? Or, why do they know?


Bless you ....><>

PS... Love one another, pray for one another.
 
Greetings all.

I have temporarily closed the thread.

Can we please remember the thread topic?

What Does The Bible Say About ABORTION?​


What does the Bible say...?
There has been far too much personal attack between members in this thread and most, if not all, is about one's opinion and also how the world might view it, not what the Bible actually says.

Therefore I have and will be deleting some posts.

Please realize that one new member (@GracefulJourney) has decided to cease membership and I do think that some of the reason is due to the total unfriendliness shown by members.

Please post in peace, or not at all.

A discussion can be had with presenting ones understanding without needlessly getting personal.

TalkJesus is not a place for gladiator duels.

Jesus Christ is the Lord


Bless you all ....><>
 
PS....
May I take the opportunity to mention/remind that regarding such things as abortion and deciding upon if or if not and when, etc...

A little leaven leavens the whole lump. I am not referring to who and how and the 'condition' of an unborn in a pregnancy may occur.

This topic is a very real consideration for far too many and while we might want to offer or suggest a way around the fact, a little leaven does leaven the whole lump.

Much has been written about the moral and legal consequences of abortion, focusing on the parent(s) but...

What about the baby...

and Our Father's Way for the baby?

All have sinned and fallen short, whether they are directly or indirectly involved in decisions and carrying out abortion. Therefore, all, yes, all, need forgiveness only found in and through the Son of God.

But, what of the baby, the child, the person? Why should they be denied to justify other's decision of virtue and morals?

Before much else gets said, should we start telling a new born to repent? Of what exactly?

Is there guidance and help to be found in the Bible regarding this?

Post in peace


Bless you ....><>
 
@KingJ

Greetings,

this does not actually stand up.

Perhaps let us ask why a person can not claim naïvity for robbery, armed or not; arson; planned murder or assassination; kidnapping; abduction; spouse beating; torture; child rape; etc etc etc.
Or, can they?

One might agree that most people today know that those things are not acceptable and to some extent, deters that some from committing such acts against others.

But, how do they know? Or, why do they know?


Bless you ....><>

PS... Love one another, pray for one another.

You are welcome to disagree, and I appreciate your statement. But I disagree. I believe you are not properly grasping the point I am making.

There is no naivety in arson, planned murder, assassination, kidnapping, abduction, spouse beating, torture, rape.

For arson you need to meticulously place petrol everywhere and light it. You will see flames and an entire building burn down. Maybe even hear some people screaming and do nothing to help. In planned murder, you need to follow the victim, learn how to use a poison or firearm, research how one dies from this. In kidnapping, you need to follow the victim, get a secret location, tint the windows on your vehicle, buy rope and or cable ties to restrain the victim. With spouse beating, you need to actually muster up the hatred to inflict pain on your spouse. Then once done, you see their bruises and do it again. Torture, you will experience a person screaming and crying in pain as you forcefully remove their fingernails. Rape, same thing.

Now in the case of a morning after pill. You pour a glass of water and swallow it down as you would a painkiller. And that is the A-Z of your experience.

It is like going for a tetanus injection after you have an accident on a tar road.
 
Please realize that one new member (@GracefulJourney) has decided to cease membership and I do think that some of the reason is due to the total unfriendliness shown by members.

In all internet discussion you are going to experience people disagreeing with you. Mods need to watch for trolling, personal attacks and heresy. The A-Z of Grace's leaving was purely a disagreement. There is nothing to learn from their leaving
 
What does the Bible say about abortion?

Seems simple enough, Thou shall not kill.!!!!
 
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