Why do protestants do catholic traditions?

[FrankDSegura]

Why do those who believe in Jesus Christ that are Protestant or just Christian continue to keep Catholic traditions? Christmas, good friday, sunday service.
Should I feel obligated?
(Keep in mind that I know the pagan origins of Christmas and its placement on the calendar on top of an already established pagan holiday.
Knowing this I feel convicted that its not what the God of the Bible wants any believers to continue although I think anyone could be forgiven for any wrong they've done. But this is my opinion its not popular amongst secular Christians but here it is, the celebration of the saturnalia is a sin.
But Jesus Christ paid the penalty that me and you deserve.
The thing is I don't know if Christmas is one of the major sins or the little sins but It seems some people keep celebrating because they care what people think.

 

[Sue D.]

We need to focus on what God's Word says.

Christmas is not RCC -- it Is the birth of Jesus Christ -- and That is what 'we' need to focus on. The virgin birth of Jesus Christ and the reason for His coming. To die on the cross / shed His blood for our sins. And rising again bodily.

It's the Date set for Christmas that came from doubious origins. But Christmas itself is not pagan at all. 'We' are celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ. It's definitely Not a sin. The birth of Jesus Christ -- He provided our salvation.

Good Friday is a RCC traditon. I don't know many Protestants who acknowledge it. I certainly don't.

 

[Christ4Ever]

Why do those who believe in Jesus Christ that are Protestant or just Christian continue to keep Catholic traditions? Christmas, good friday, sunday service.
Should I feel obligated?
(Keep in mind that I know the pagan origins of Christmas and its placement on the calendar on top of an already established pagan holiday.
Knowing this I feel convicted that its not what the God of the Bible wants any believers to continue although I think anyone could be forgiven for any wrong they've done. But this is my opinion its not popular amongst secular Christians but here it is, the celebration of the saturnalia is a sin.
But Jesus Christ paid the penalty that me and you deserve.
The thing is I don't know if Christmas is one of the major sins or the little sins but It seems some people keep celebrating because they care what people think.

Hello Brother Frank,
What you need to ask yourself are you celebrating Christmas or are you celebrating the Birth of our Lord Jesus Christ? I ask this, because in truth no one actually knows the date of the birth of our Lord, but whenever it did happen that it was a day to rejoice. What did the Angels proclaim?

Now there were in the same country shepherds living out in the fields, keeping watch over their flock by night. And behold, an angel of the Lord stood before them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were greatly afraid. Then the angel said to them, "Do not be afraid, for behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy which will be to all people. "For there is born to you this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord. "And this [will be] the sign to you: You will find a Babe wrapped in swaddling cloths, lying in a manger." And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God and saying: "Glory to God in the highest, And on earth peace, goodwill toward men!" Luke 2:8-14

Now you have scholars who will debate this. Meaning the tie in to pagan day of worship, and how the RCC used this as a way to evangelize the tribes located in what is now the UK, Ireland, etc. by using a day they were already acknowledging as being special and using it to tie into the birth of Christ and so Christendom who no one knew for sure when our Lord was born used this to their advantage. Sure. This is kind of stretch on my part, but it bears similarities to how Paul addressed the Altar that was used in Greece that was dedicated to the Unknown God. Stating the following "for as I was passing through and considering the objects of your worship, I even found an altar with this inscription: TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Therefore, the One whom you worship without knowing, Him I proclaim to you: Act 17:23

Which begs the question. Were the Greeks actually worshiping the one true God unknowingly when they went to this Altar to worship, or was Paul using what they were already doing as a way to introduce them to the one true God?

Now there is no doubting that Christmas has taken a more mythical, commercial, secular, quasi religious with great distortions of what actually we do know about as it pertains to the Birth of our Lord and Savior Jesus then probably originally intended even by the RCC has happened. However, if this as an opportunity to introduce a people who know nothing of the true Christ to them. I find it of greater difficulty to now begin shouting from the roof tops that Jesus wasn't born on this day at all, and you all are being fooled, when I don't know even when He was born, or even if His birth is worthy of such attention according to Scripture? Instead using the opportunity to disabuse who I can of that the importance of Christmas is not the trees, gifts, decorations, etc. but rather that our Savior was Born if not on this day, but He was Born! Whatever day in truth that may be.

This is not to say, that you should follow what everyone else is doing, and that you should quench the disquiet of your Spirit. God forbid! Follow as the Spirit moves you in this. Just understand that if you can't at least accept or get past that most will not see it as you do, and that it's not taken as an opportunity to spread the Gospel, in truth. This will narrow the churches or fellowships that you will be able to attend without conflict, but that should be no never mind. Which means that I honestly believe if your Spirit is disquieted by this, that you should pray that you will be able to find a church where they do not celebrate this day.

Meaning that even the church you find that doesn't celebrate this day, also, might not follow all Scriptural dictates perfectly in other areas. Some folks like to say that if you're looking for a perfect church, and find it. That the minute you step through those doors, it will cease being perfect.

However, if you are called by God for this. Start your own church. The church I now attend started in a farmhouse kitchen with four people who would meet for bible study and attended no other church. The results of these four Brothers & Sisters stepping out in faith is that 60 or so years later it now resides in a church that can hold a thousand. God is awesome if you trust Him for what you need to do and step out in faith. Listen to the promptings of the Holy Spirit rather then man. This last is the best advise and guidance I can give you brother.

I hope I haven't been too confusing in the back and forth here brother. For confusion is the last thing I pray that you receive from me.

With the Love of Christ Jesus Brother Frank.
YBIC
Nick
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[Sue D.]

@Christ4Ever -- If I may share my 2 cents worth?! Sometimes it's necessary to start a church with your family if you end up moving or you have to relocate for some reason. But there's Usually a body of believers in a location that's already available. Some years ago , my husband and I knew a home schooled family who Did try to start their own home church. Their location was Way out in the country -- no neighbors for Miles. We noticed that some of the doctrine of the man's doctrine was a bit 'off'. They Could just as easily driven to a nearby town that did have a church. They simply wanted to try doing a home church concept. We bowed out - even though we had started being friends with them, we felt the need to be in an already established church. More fellow shipping. Other people do discuss doctrinal beliefs With.

The location of that particular family suited their Big family fairly well. Plenty of room to play outside in. And they Did get in town to help volunteer with a 2nd-hand used clothes store. So -- back then, we could see some pit falls Of that approach.

On the Flip side -- the church I grew up in was in a large area that was expanding fairly quickly -- so as some of the out-lying areas of the town were growing -- a few of those families started Bible study groups in their homes. those groups grew and established churches that continued to grow. Those particular families were in very different out-lying parts of that growing area. Those groups were 'supervised' so that no one was getting off on any tangents. We were conservative Baptists.

And I agree -- just because a person / family finds a church that agrees in a particular area , ya need to find out what they teach in Other areas as well. My daughter and son-in-law were doing exactly that. They held to some beliefs that others didn't and were trying to find a group that agreed with them. They figured that as long as someone Else agreed with Them, that they were okay. Never occurred to our son-in-law that maybe He was needing correcting. He had converted from another belief system and our daughter was 'madly in love with him'.

that's why there are a lot of churches in various denominations -- they hold the basics of salvation but have other areas of teachings that are disagreed upon. Rather than causing dissension, they leave and start another church. And sometimes in small churches, personalities Don't mesh and so some feel led to go somewhere Else that preaches Gospel unto Salvation.

so -- I guess it depends on what is being disagreed On. How important it is to the person. Go where the Holy Spirit is leading -- just don't isolate yourself from other fellow believers. (enough preaching from me)

 

[Bill]

Why do those who believe in Jesus Christ that are Protestant or just Christian continue to keep Catholic traditions? Christmas, good friday, sunday service.
Should I feel obligated?
(Keep in mind that I know the pagan origins of Christmas and its placement on the calendar on top of an already established pagan holiday.
Knowing this I feel convicted that its not what the God of the Bible wants any believers to continue although I think anyone could be forgiven for any wrong they've done. But this is my opinion its not popular amongst secular Christians but here it is, the celebration of the saturnalia is a sin.
But Jesus Christ paid the penalty that me and you deserve.
The thing is I don't know if Christmas is one of the major sins or the little sins but It seems some people keep celebrating because they care what people think.

During those years when the Christian church was trying to grow. There was a lot of paganism in the world. The Druids and others had strong followings.

What the church chose to do was combat the pagans by making thier special days Christian holidays.

This is why Christmas , Easter, the eve of all saints, and a few others are on the days they are set. Also Advent and Lents are set during specific seasons.

These were set well before the Reformation, im thinking by at least 1000 yrs.. and even after the Reformation everyone understood thier purpose. It has only been forgotten these past 50 or so years, because few churches bother keeps records of the past.

 

[Bill]

Hello Brother Frank,
What you need to ask yourself are you celebrating Christmas or are you celebrating the Birth of our Lord Jesus Christ? I ask this, because in truth no one actually knows the date of the birth of our Lord, but whenever it did happen that it was a day to rejoice. What did the Angels proclaim?

Now there were in the same country shepherds living out in the fields, keeping watch over their flock by night. And behold, an angel of the Lord stood before them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were greatly afraid. Then the angel said to them, "Do not be afraid, for behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy which will be to all people. "For there is born to you this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord. "And this [will be] the sign to you: You will find a Babe wrapped in swaddling cloths, lying in a manger." And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God and saying: "Glory to God in the highest, And on earth peace, goodwill toward men!" Luke 2:8-14

Now you have scholars who will debate this. Meaning the tie in to pagan day of worship, and how the RCC used this as a way to evangelize the tribes located in what is now the UK, Ireland, etc. by using a day they were already acknowledging as being special and using it to tie into the birth of Christ and so Christendom who no one knew for sure when our Lord was born used this to their advantage. Sure. This is kind of stretch on my part, but it bears similarities to how Paul addressed the Altar that was used in Greece that was dedicated to the Unknown God. Stating the following "for as I was passing through and considering the objects of your worship, I even found an altar with this inscription: TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Therefore, the One whom you worship without knowing, Him I proclaim to you: Act 17:23

Which begs the question. Were the Greeks actually worshiping the one true God unknowingly when they went to this Altar to worship, or was Paul using what they were already doing as a way to introduce them to the one true God?

Now there is no doubting that Christmas has taken a more mythical, commercial, secular, quasi religious with great distortions of what actually we do know about as it pertains to the Birth of our Lord and Savior Jesus then probably originally intended even by the RCC has happened. However, if this as an opportunity to introduce a people who know nothing of the true Christ to them. I find it of greater difficulty to now begin shouting from the roof tops that Jesus wasn't born on this day at all, and you all are being fooled, when I don't know even when He was born, or even if His birth is worthy of such attention according to Scripture? Instead using the opportunity to disabuse who I can of that the importance of Christmas is not the trees, gifts, decorations, etc. but rather that our Savior was Born if not on this day, but He was Born! Whatever day in truth that may be.

This is not to say, that you should follow what everyone else is doing, and that you should quench the disquiet of your Spirit. God forbid! Follow as the Spirit moves you in this. Just understand that if you can't at least accept or get past that most will not see it as you do, and that it's not taken as an opportunity to spread the Gospel, in truth. This will narrow the churches or fellowships that you will be able to attend without conflict, but that should be no never mind. Which means that I honestly believe if your Spirit is disquieted by this, that you should pray that you will be able to find a church where they do not celebrate this day.

Meaning that even the church you find that doesn't celebrate this day, also, might not follow all Scriptural dictates perfectly in other areas. Some folks like to say that if you're looking for a perfect church, and find it. That the minute you step through those doors, it will cease being perfect.

However, if you are called by God for this. Start your own church. The church I now attend started in a farmhouse kitchen with four people who would meet for bible study and attended no other church. The results of these four Brothers & Sisters stepping out in faith is that 60 or so years later it now resides in a church that can hold a thousand. God is awesome if you trust Him for what you need to do and step out in faith. Listen to the promptings of the Holy Spirit rather then man. This last is the best advise and guidance I can give you brother.

I hope I haven't been too confusing in the back and forth here brother. For confusion is the last thing I pray that you receive from me.

With the Love of Christ Jesus Brother Frank.
YBIC
Nick
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I just read your post.

 

[Sue D.]

Christmas time has always been the celebrating of the birth of Jesus Christ.

And Easter / Resurrection Day has always been celebrating the bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ.

I've never paid any attention to what the RCC does.

 

[PloughBoy]

Why do protestants do catholic traditions?

Because she is her "offspring" and sometimes bad habits are hard to break. Let alone the new ones you make. In which i believe the bible also teaches "implicitly". I wish i could even quote Luther at this time, concerning the matter, But most likely it would be inappropriately at this time. For those who know, he did have a really bad habits, concerning his choice of words to describe the occasion.

 

[Garee]

Why do those who believe in Jesus Christ that are Protestant or just Christian continue to keep Catholic traditions? Christmas, good friday, sunday service.
Should I feel obligated?
(Keep in mind that I know the pagan origins of Christmas and its placement on the calendar on top of an already established pagan holiday.
Knowing this I feel convicted that its not what the God of the Bible wants any believers to continue although I think anyone could be forgiven for any wrong they've done. But this is my opinion its not popular amongst secular Christians but here it is, the celebration of the saturnalia is a sin.
But Jesus Christ paid the penalty that me and you deserve.
The thing is I don't know if Christmas is one of the major sins or the little sins but It seems some people keep celebrating because they care what people think.

The Bible informs us there must be heresies as matters of opinion (sects) or oral traditions amongst the believer .It also informs us they are not judge-able unless they do despite to the fullness of Grace the price of salvation .

Catholicism teaches that only this Queens entity they have named Mary received the fullness of Christ’s redemption all other creatures receive a unknown unknowable and they must continue to suffer even after the take in their last breath for another unknown time period or form of suffering.

The doctrine of wondering, never coming to the end of faith the salvation of one’s soul. Limbo a doctrine that did not hold true .A thing of the past

In that way looking at a tree it is not a sin but can become one if it is used as a idol image (terphim) looking to its presencence as a way of comuning with the unseen world.

It would be no different than having a picture in ones wallet . In that way nothing is evil of it self save the evil one.

 

[Sue D.]

@Garee -- The RCC teaches many things that are Not Biblical. God's Word Also warns us that there are those who will promote a false Gospel. And we need to be familiar enough with God's Word to recognize the false and To follow correct Biblical teaching. The Holy Spirit guides us that way, also. Jesus Christ being the Son of God. That He died on the cross for our sins and that He was buried and that He rose again bodily on the 3rd day.

 

[Brad Huber]

Why do protestants do catholic traditions?

Because she is her "offspring" and sometimes bad habits are hard to break. Let alone the new ones you make. In which i believe the bible also teaches "implicitly". I wish i could even quote Luther at this time, concerning the matter, But most likely it would be inappropriately at this time. For those who know, he did have a really bad habits, concerning his choice of words to describe the occasion.

Luther had many bad habits and erroneous beliefs. Never the less, his stance agains the corruption of his day was a good and Holy act, and part of the Lords will that began the shaking up of the church.

 

[PloughBoy]

Luther had many bad habits and erroneous beliefs. Never the less, his stance agains the corruption of his day was a good and Holy act, and part of the Lords will that began the shaking up of the church.

Oh yes, and by Studying intensively "The Reformation" and the "Biography"of "Martin Luther". We know that his "95 Thesis, tack on the "bulletin board" [door of The Castle Church] in "Wittenberg, Germany", had no intentions of separating of, or splitting from the "Roman Catholic Church". The main attack in his "thesis was "Indulgences" and the "salesmanship" of "Johann Tetzel " But it was the "catalyst" that fuel the movement of The University students who many had translated it from the Latin into The common German Language and published it in it in "pamphlet" form. And also we must "remember that "Johann Rhau-Grunenberg" was The Writtenberg printer. Luther, Melanchtlon, and others had no intentions of dismantling The One church but to "reform" it. And of the "Reformers" also testified to this truth, that the "Protestant Church' also would be a body of Corruption as well! And by them translating the word of God into the common mans language, would add to a more "corrupted system" that would lead to a host of false teaching carried out by the "common people" "every wind and doctrine' throughout the world. "The Reformers" conclusion: So let it be, so That the faithful few, may know the Truth!. The Majority would be the carriers of translated lies, and A Few will be the "Proclaimers" of Truth! "Many called but Few are Chosen" a "Remnant According to Grace" in such matters too!

I feel that, in real time and in light of "Holy Scripture" the Translated "Bible" There are a lot of christians, that have a "worldly christianity" christianity, for "by their fruits you shall know them". For their "works are a "portrait" of them. " A Kodak Moment" oh "Snapshot".

Shalom

 

[Sue D.]

The straw that broke the camels back -- the RCC. Was when the men started learning how to read on their own. They were no longer at the mercy of the RCC -- they could read and realized what the leaders were doing and tried to put a stop to it. The RCC didn't like that. They'd had control of the peasants and were not about to loose that. They were making money from them. So the 95 Thesis was instrumental in pointing out some of the problems. The Protestant Reformation. The protestors tried to reform from within and it didn't work. Thus -- Weslyan Methodists, Martin Lutheranism , not sure who started the Presbyterians. And the Baptists came from a very different line of belief. But the Baptists are the only one's who baptize by immersion.

The RCC sees the Protestants as rebels. But God's Word does not contain much of anything that the RCC teaches. The Only thing they have right is that Mary was the mother of Jesus.
And, no doubt, there Will be 'feed-back' from those who are of the RCC background. Take time to read your Bible. See what it says for yourself.

 

[only son]

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Even Martian Luther himself translated his Lutheran Bible in German, directly from the Catholic Latin Vulgate,

Luther did not even have access nor possession of Greek or Hebrew manuscripts,

The Protestant world did not find this interesting or have any questions, they in fact loved his translation.

His Bible, was a duplicated - word for word identical exact copy - of the Latin Vulgate - Martian Luther simply went in and modified and changed a very few select passages - to reflect what he personally felt was incorrect doctrine in the Vulgate.

Today, we have over 5,000 manuscripts of the Greek New Testament, most of which have been only discovered in the last 150 years - The majority of NT manuscripts found were accidently found, - not preserved, - not safe guarded, nor protected and valued.

just as the KJV - the JKV is a word for word exact duplicate copy of the English Douay Rheims Catholic Translation word for word exactly in 99 % of the translation.

The Church of England simply copied the Catholic Translation and went in and modified and changed a few select passages to reflect what they believed how the Catholic Church was in error.

 

[Bill]

The unanswered question that runs through my mind, as so many protestants have such distain for catholics, why then do they hide behind catholics when it comes to following scripture.

I have heard it many times here and in other Christian chat forums, we dont do this or that because it makes us look like catholics.

The question i have to the Protestants, who is your God, really. If you are going to say, " i follow the Bible" then do it and quit worrying about whether it makes you look catholic or not.

Scripture says, the Holy Spirit ( i.e. God ) inspires Mary to say " from this day forward, all nations will call me blessed". Hmmmm what is greater, following the Word of God? Or worrying you sound catholic?

What about this, Jesus takes the bread and wine and blesses it. Then afterwards, tells us to do this in rememberance of me.

Jews are more dedicated to the Passover than christains are to something Jesus specifically told them to do.

What does this show me. YOU, who call yourselves Christians, are only Christians in your lip service, but not in truth. YOU value, your own image, how you are perceved over truly following the Word, the Bible.

 

[PloughBoy]

Well will we see a line called a line for Christian’s and and another lane for non Christian’s or a line for different denominations.! In Glory.

 

[Curtis]

 

[Garee]

I have heard it many times here and in other Christian chat forums, we dont do this or that because it makes us look like catholics.

The question i have to the Protestants, who is your God, really. If you are going to say, " i follow the Bible" then do it and quit worrying about whether it makes you look catholic or not.

Scripture says, the Holy Spirit ( i.e. God ) inspires Mary to say " from this day forward, all nations will call me blessed". Hmmmm what is greater, following the Word of God? Or worrying you sound catholic?

What about this, Jesus takes the bread and wine and blesses it. Then afterwards, tells us to do this in rememberance of me.

All nations calls those blessed with the fulness of Christ grace the price of salvation .Its what our unseen Holy Father does . ."bless his creation"

The Bible infallibly informs us of the things of God and warns us of those who say we need a man to teach us rather than the Holy Spirit that works in us to both reveal his will and empower the believer to perform it according to his unseen good pleasure . Believers therefore defend that which defends them as in all things written in the law and prophets called sola scriptura, the armor of God . In that way we put on the armor of God which has nothing to do with the oral traditons of the fathers A hierarchy of men that lord it over the understanding of the non venerable .. . .the foundation of Paganism .

The Bible informs us there must be heiress among us or denominations. (differences of opinion ) as oral traditons. Those traditions will not change the simplicity of the gospel unless they do despite to the grace as to its fullness the cost of salvation. If they violate the fulness of grace then we can judge or make a proper evaluation there is no light of the gospel in them or fulness of grace needed.

In that way Catholicism does make the cost of salvation (the fulness of grace) to no effect. They teach that only a entity named Mary as queen of heaven received the fulness required for salvation and every other creature a unknow remnant and therefore must continue wondering, wondering, wondering to no end for a unknown amount of time sufferings even after they take their last breath .

1 Corinthians 11:19 For there must be also heresies (opinions) among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.

2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

 

[Bill]

All nations calls those blessed with the fulness of Christ grace the price of salvation .Its what our unseen Holy Father does . ."bless his creation"

The Bible infallibly informs us of the things of God and warns us of those who say we need a man to teach us rather than the Holy Spirit that works in us to both reveal his will and empower the believer to perform it according to his unseen good pleasure . Believers therefore defend that which defends them as in all things written in the law and prophets called sola scriptura, the armor of God . In that way we put on the armor of God which has nothing to do with the oral traditons of the fathers A hierarchy of men that lord it over the understanding of the non venerable .. . .the foundation of Paganism .

The Bible informs us there must be heiress among us or denominations. (differences of opinion ) as oral traditons. Those traditions will not change the simplicity of the gospel unless they do despite to the grace as to its fullness the cost of salvation. If they violate the fulness of grace then we can judge or make a proper evaluation there is no light of the gospel in them or fulness of grace needed.

In that way Catholicism does make the cost of salvation (the fulness of grace) to no effect. They teach that only a entity named Mary as queen of heaven received the fulness required for salvation and every other creature a unknow remnant and therefore must continue wondering, wondering, wondering to no end for a unknown amount of time sufferings even after they take their last breath .

1 Corinthians 11:19 For there must be also heresies (opinions) among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.

2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

And so what is your conclusion ?

That you will also hide behind the catholics as a reason for NOT following what the bible says to do ?

What came first, the Word of God or the Catholics ?

Im not asking you to agree with catholics, but i am saying, if you are going to claim " i follow the Bible" then do it and quit crying that you will look like a catholic.

So what if you look catholic, at least you can really claim to be following the Bible.

 

[Bill]

All nations calls those blessed with the fulness of Christ grace the price of salvation .Its what our unseen Holy Father does . ."bless his creation"

The Bible infallibly informs us of the things of God and warns us of those who say we need a man to teach us rather than the Holy Spirit that works in us to both reveal his will and empower the believer to perform it according to his unseen good pleasure . Believers therefore defend that which defends them as in all things written in the law and prophets called sola scriptura, the armor of God . In that way we put on the armor of God which has nothing to do with the oral traditons of the fathers A hierarchy of men that lord it over the understanding of the non venerable .. . .the foundation of Paganism .

The Bible informs us there must be heiress among us or denominations. (differences of opinion ) as oral traditons. Those traditions will not change the simplicity of the gospel unless they do despite to the grace as to its fullness the cost of salvation. If they violate the fulness of grace then we can judge or make a proper evaluation there is no light of the gospel in them or fulness of grace needed.

In that way Catholicism does make the cost of salvation (the fulness of grace) to no effect. They teach that only a entity named Mary as queen of heaven received the fulness required for salvation and every other creature a unknow remnant and therefore must continue wondering, wondering, wondering to no end for a unknown amount of time sufferings even after they take their last breath .

1 Corinthians 11:19 For there must be also heresies (opinions) among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.

2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

By the way, what is the fulness of Christ to you, and who ( other than Mary) has God declared as blessed?