TheLivingStone
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You can't really believe this statement.
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Why do protestants do catholic traditions?
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Are we of the letter?
You can honor the Lord any day for any reason. Do we not commemorate His death on the cross at communion? That is not done yearly and so you can celebrate His birthday any day of the year and more than once too in honoring Him.
What the world does is moot. It is what you do in honoring the Lord that day for.
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@Sue D.
Would like to apologise i'm working on the way of discussing things with my fellow brothers and sisters when it comes to disagreements on certain issues.
Just personally disagree with what i see as worldly celebrations with pagan origins, from what i understand.
But i understand that my approach needs to be more loving and understanding, although sticking to the truth no matter what.
Would like to apologise i'm working on the way of discussing things with my fellow brothers and sisters when it comes to disagreements on certain issues.
Just personally disagree with what i see as worldly celebrations with pagan origins, from what i understand.
But i understand that my approach needs to be more loving and understanding, although sticking to the truth no matter what.
I did not say the word he is not relevant it is needed in defining the Spirit of sonship doctrine. Then Holy Spirit working in us by which we like the Son of man Jesus can cry out Abba Father.
Again God is not a man . God who is Spirit has no flesh and bones or sexual organs. The born again spirit of the son ship of the Holy Spirit was breathed into us .All die not receiving the new bodies .They in the new order (not under the Sun) will be neither male nor female .There will be no aging dying leading toward a end in the new order no multiplying
Terrestrial man was created in the image and likeness of the celestial God.
Indeed, Jesus testified that He has seen the Father.
John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
John 6:46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.
And one day when Jesus brings us to Heaven in the Father's House, we will no longer need Jesus to mediate between us and the Father any more but go to the Father directly and ask Him face to face as we will see the Father openly.
John 16:23 And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.
24 Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full.
25 These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew you plainly of the Father.
26 At that day ye shall ask in my name: and I say not unto you, that I will pray the Father for you:
27 For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.
28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.
Another point of truth:
John 5:37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.
But men in the O.T. had seen Jesus BEFORE His incarnation as the prophesied Son of Man.
John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.....
46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me.
47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?
John 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.
That day for when Abraham was glad when he had seen the Lord is IMO was the day He brought the news that Sara was to have a son.
Genesis 18:1And the Lord appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day;
2 And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground,
3 And said, My Lord, if now I have found favour in thy sight, pass not away, I pray thee, from thy servant:
4 Let a little water, I pray you, be fetched, and wash your feet, and rest yourselves under the tree:
5 And I will fetch a morsel of bread, and comfort ye your hearts; after that ye shall pass on: for therefore are ye come to your servant. And they said, So do, as thou hast said.
6 And Abraham hastened into the tent unto Sarah, and said, Make ready quickly three measures of fine meal, knead it, and make cakes upon the hearth.
7 And Abraham ran unto the herd, and fetcht a calf tender and good, and gave it unto a young man; and he hasted to dress it.
8 And he took butter, and milk, and the calf which he had dressed, and set it before them; and he stood by them under the tree, and they did eat.
9 And they said unto him, Where is Sarah thy wife? And he said, Behold, in the tent.
10 And he said, I will certainly return unto thee according to the time of life; and, lo, Sarah thy wife shall have a son. And Sarah heard it in the tent door, which was behind him.
11 Now Abraham and Sarah were old and well stricken in age; and it ceased to be with Sarah after the manner of women.
12 Therefore Sarah laughed within herself, saying, After I am waxed old shall I have pleasure, my lord being old also?
13 And the Lord said unto Abraham, Wherefore did Sarah laugh, saying, Shall I of a surety bear a child, which am old?
14 Is any thing too hard for the Lord? At the time appointed I will return unto thee, according to the time of life, and Sarah shall have a son.
15 Then Sarah denied, saying, I laughed not; for she was afraid. And he said, Nay; but thou didst laugh.
The Lord had also appeared to Abrham in Genesis 12:7 & Genesis 17:1
The Lord also appeared to Isaac in Genesis 26:1-2, 24 & Jacob in Genesis 32:24-30 & unto Moses as Jesus did testify that Moses had written of Him in John 5:46-47.
May God cause the increase.
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AGAIN, your opinion is irrelevant.
Human understanding of God is highly flawed. He is far more than a spirit and in fact a better definition of Him is a cosmic entity. He can have a physical form of any kind as He does.
You are clinging to this TINY bit of hope that "God is not a man."
God IS male. The two words are very similar but neither depict Him being female. Ever.. Your second paragraph is nothing but hot air. It's a tactic some people use when they have a weak argument.
I'll do you one better. God is The Man.
Using Bible buzzwords here is also irrelevant.
Adam was made for the glory of God, Eve (woman) was made for the glory of Man. Partners in all things, optimally but very similar to man but also very different. Physically, spiritually, emotionally. Biological and scientific facts.
Your argument that "he doesn't have flesh and bones therefore not man" is weak. There's something called synonyms. One word can also mean one thing and another is a related term. Male/man. Not the same but different.
Greetings folks,
can i ask that you all try to keep personal thoughts of each other off the forums?
Try to reply to the subject. It is often harder to do than simply ripping into other fellow members but I want to be convinced that you can do it.
Example:
I say 1 plus one equals not two
Reply, all too often, is to state i am an idiot, or I need to learn or i am ignorant or i am teaching false math, etc.
Better reply is to ask how i understand it, because that is not what you come up with AND even try to explain to me, being an idiot, what 1 plus one equals, remembering that your thoughts/calculation don't have to be the only way to see things.
If I asked you to cut an apple in half, would i be wrong to think you're wrong if you cut it differently than i have always cut it, from the way i was taught, from the way i discovered was 'best'? How would be the best way to respond to another fellow member here if that was the case?
AND... please remember that we err if we try to put God in a box that we think suits Him. We are to rejoice in Him and encourage one another... not judge.
Let me share a few Scripture portions...
The day shall declare it.
ICorinthians 3:13
Judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.
ICorinthians 4:5
Why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God. Let us not therefore judge one another any more.
Romans 14:10, 12, 13
God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ.
Romans 2:16
The Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: and hath given Him authority to execute judgment also, because He is the Son of man.
John 5:22, 27
The Great, the Mighty God, the LORD of hosts, is His name, great in counsel, and mighty in work: for Thine eyes are open upon all the ways of the sons of men: to give every one according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings.
Jeremiah 32:18, 19
Be ye kind, please.
Post in Peace
Jesus is the Lord
Bless you ....><>
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can i ask that you all try to keep personal thoughts of each other off the forums?
Try to reply to the subject. It is often harder to do than simply ripping into other fellow members but I want to be convinced that you can do it.
Example:
I say 1 plus one equals not two
Reply, all too often, is to state i am an idiot, or I need to learn or i am ignorant or i am teaching false math, etc.
Better reply is to ask how i understand it, because that is not what you come up with AND even try to explain to me, being an idiot, what 1 plus one equals, remembering that your thoughts/calculation don't have to be the only way to see things.
If I asked you to cut an apple in half, would i be wrong to think you're wrong if you cut it differently than i have always cut it, from the way i was taught, from the way i discovered was 'best'? How would be the best way to respond to another fellow member here if that was the case?
AND... please remember that we err if we try to put God in a box that we think suits Him. We are to rejoice in Him and encourage one another... not judge.
Let me share a few Scripture portions...
The day shall declare it.
ICorinthians 3:13
Judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.
ICorinthians 4:5
Why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God. Let us not therefore judge one another any more.
Romans 14:10, 12, 13
God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ.
Romans 2:16
The Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son: and hath given Him authority to execute judgment also, because He is the Son of man.
John 5:22, 27
The Great, the Mighty God, the LORD of hosts, is His name, great in counsel, and mighty in work: for Thine eyes are open upon all the ways of the sons of men: to give every one according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings.
Jeremiah 32:18, 19
Be ye kind, please.
Post in Peace
Jesus is the Lord
Bless you ....><>
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