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The idea a spirit doesn't have flesh and bones is irrelevant. Pretty sure our spirits are male or female.
Despite someone's opinion. God is male.
Why do protestants do catholic traditions?
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Despite someone's opinion. God is male.
Why would it be irrelevant whether s spirit has flesh and bones. Other than the fact that a spirit does Not have flesh and bones.
People have body ,soul and spirit. The fact is that we have a body which consists of flesh and bones means that we can be seen. The fact that we also have a spirit does Not mean that a spirit has flesh and bones.
There is the Holy Spirit that indwells the born again believer but there are also evil spirits. Neither of those have flesh and blood.
God is referred to as a He.
People have body ,soul and spirit. The fact is that we have a body which consists of flesh and bones means that we can be seen. The fact that we also have a spirit does Not mean that a spirit has flesh and bones.
There is the Holy Spirit that indwells the born again believer but there are also evil spirits. Neither of those have flesh and blood.
God is referred to as a He.
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@Sue D. The biggest issue is too many say He is neither when the evidence is starting at them in the face.
Pretty sure "spirit" by human definition is far too limiting in what God truly is.
As the Almighty Creator of everything pretty sure he can be "spirit" and physical whenever He wants.
We do not become genderless spirits and lose whatever we are in life, male or female.
Our spirits, male or female, are tied to our physical bodies. God is the standard and exception to the rule.
The whole "spirits don't have flesh and bones therefore don't have a sex or gender" does not add up.
Pretty sure "spirit" by human definition is far too limiting in what God truly is.
As the Almighty Creator of everything pretty sure he can be "spirit" and physical whenever He wants.
We do not become genderless spirits and lose whatever we are in life, male or female.
Our spirits, male or female, are tied to our physical bodies. God is the standard and exception to the rule.
The whole "spirits don't have flesh and bones therefore don't have a sex or gender" does not add up.
Spirits do not have sexual organs .
Remember without parables needed to teach us how to walk after the unseen things of God Christ spoke not hiding the mysteries from the lost .
We should search through the whole Bible to find things related to the chaste virgin bride the church . Cherry picking leaves a void.
As sons of God we are not what we will be described as the bride. Christ our husband . There are many verses that support God is not a man .
Remember in the new heavens and earth there will be no need of the Sun and the Moon, (the temporal corruption time keepers ).The former things on earth will not be remembered or ever come to mind , all things new .(Not rebuilt or reconditioned )
Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Isaiah 62 :2 And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, (Christian) which the mouth of the Lord shall name
Isaiah 62 :5 For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee: and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee.
Galatian 4 speaks of the church as the mother of us all and testifies using Paul as a surrogate mother . .
Galatian 4: 19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,
Galatian 4: 26-27 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband. . . . . .She flesh and blood.
When Christ was formed in Timothy then Paul the surrogate mother who suffered labor pains espoused him as a chaste virgin to Christ our husband. Chaste Timothy having no gods before our husbands Christ.
2 Corinthians 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
There is a excellent picture or parable of the bride in Revelation 12, spoken of by a number no man could could called 144, 000 .Again the one chaste virgin bride the church .the mother of us all.
Revelation 12;1-2 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
The number no man could number 144, 000 represent the bride as sons of God (mankind)
Revelation 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.
The 144000. Look at Revelation 7: 4-9. For the explanation . They were 12000 from each of the 12 tribes of Israel going I to the 7 yr tribulation to evangelize the unrepentant Jewish people.
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Christmas, Easter, etc. are Economic enginesThat pump a bunch of CA$H into businesses, and have little to do with either the "Catholic Church", or Christianity in general. And SUNDAY gatherings, are as good a day as any. The general concept is that if you're going to meet with the CHURCH (which is the people, not the building), it's best to do it when it's there - which for most (except Sabbatians) is Sunday. The Catholics also meet on Sunday to do their thing has no bearing on it.
In the United States, many Christians say that they observe Sunday, the first day of the week, at least in part, to commemorate the resurrection which they believe took place on the first day of the week. However, many areas of Europe use a calendar that has Sunday as the seventh day of the week. Does anyone know, in those areas that use that calendar, on what day they hold their weekly worship services? If they hold it on the seventh day, do they also do anything special on the first day in celebration of the resurrection?
You can honor the Lord any day and not be judged for it, It doesn't matter what the pagans celebrate that calendar day for as long as you do it to honor Him.
Romans 14:4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.
7 For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself.
8 For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's.
As for Sunday being the Catholic designated worship day,, the saints were doing that long before Catholic made it official by them decreeing it so when Christian churches have been doing it long before they designated it.
1 Corinthians 16:1Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye.
2 Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.
So after collection, the church was to set aside a portion for missionaries support. This was done on the first day f the week; Sunday.
Here is another one for when His disciples get together to break bread ; hence hold communion.
Acts 20:7And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.
So just think of the Catholic Church trying to get credit for what was already in practice. vanity is their name.
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Personally I couldn't care less. The "Day" is totally unimportant (Roman 14). In fact the Cowboy Churches hold a service on MONDAY, since their folks tend to be busy on the weekend.
I'm going to take that to mean that you don't know what they do. I am hoping to hear from someone who does know - not from someone who doesn't.
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Agree
Technically agree.
Is there more to it? Ever hear of the Christmas spirit? I know it has one. I mean isn't it evident? Jingle bells, red and green, Santa, singing songs to trees "oh Christmas tree oh Christmas tree", people get happy for a season you can feel their anticipation in the air. All the non-birthdays giving gifts to each other, lol, that's messed up. So to me the choice is clear. I am not mixing the Spirit with the spirit of Christmas. Not sorry kids!
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yup - it's a DRIVING SPIRIT. Lots of stress related to it.
I HATE to see the "Holiday season" looming - Christmas starts immediately after Halloween here in Dallas. My wife enjoys all the holiday B.S. Our entire family lives locally, and I've got the biggest house, so things tend to happen here.
I just endure it, and wait for January 10th (when it's all in the boxes and back in the barn for another year).
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Interesting. Never heard it described specifically as such. Makes sense as it drives people to do imo strange things.
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Or simply ignore it as best as they can.
To think all pagans have to do is have a pagan holiday for every day of the year to make Christians not honor any day to the Lord.
What pagans do has nothing to do with what Christians do to honor the Lord any day.
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Correction: If there was no Birth of Christ, there would be no Savior.
"Christmas" is nothing but a commercial activity, not really even related to Jesus' birth, and at the wrong time chronologically.
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Do you think the Lord would be happy we celebrate his birth (bearing in mind christmas is celebrated as the specific day he was born,) on a day that he wasn't born at all?
And as mentioned here before, what the day was actually made to be celebrated for, was the birth of certain false idols by pagans who deceived people into thinking it's celebrating the birth of Christ, on a day he wasn't born no less.
I think there's very good reason why MANY of us feel led to stay as far away from christmas as possible.
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