Why Jesus could not condemn the Woman who was caught in the very act of adultery?

[AnneOminous]

Your grade: D-

ha ha ha...... as a former professional diver, don't ask what grade I would give you on your diving knowledge.

 

[PloughBoy]

ha ha ha...... as a former professional diver, don't ask what grade I would give you on your diving knowledge.

Well, a long distance swimmer I was, but when they tried to get me to take “Scuba Diving” classes in Michigan, not me in The Great Lakes”. Swimming pool blue water for me! When I refer to deep drive, I am not referring to water. It is reason there will be no “Oceans”, and Seas, in heaven, “The “New Jerusalem” and “Eternity”!

New Revised Standard Version
Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more.

I am sorry for y”all beach and water lovers! No more “Oceans” it might be a “Stream” running through the city.
The only deepest thing there will be “GOD”!

 

[PloughBoy]

Well, a long distance swimmer I was, but when they tried to get me to take “Scuba Diving” classes in Michigan, not me in The Great Lakes”. Swimming pool blue water for me! When I refer to deep drive, I am not referring to water. It is reason there will be no “Oceans”, and Seas, in heaven, “The “New Jerusalem” and “Eternity”!

New Revised Standard Version
Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more.

I am sorry for y”all beach and water lovers! No more “Oceans” it might be a “Stream” running through the city.
The only deepest thing there will be “GOD”!

When you think of scuba diving, the northern United States does not frequently come to mind. It is even less likely that shipwreck diving will be though of. However, the Great Lakes are some of the most dangerous waters in the world. There are thousands of ships that have been lost in these lakes.

PS. I don’t go on “Cruise Ships” the wife and kids have. She found out about The extra “Insurance” I take out on them when they Fly and take cruises. She was not to happy about that . People arguing with me because I didn’t go cruises with the family. I cannot drink all that water, and cannot save them either, and they got some Big Fish out there too!

Talking about it safe! That is what they said about “The Titanic”.

 

[God's Truth]

Hello @God's Truth,

You have made several claims here which I would ask you to supply the relevant Scriptures for, please?

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

You don't want to answer any questions but you want me to get you the scriptures. I replied to your other posts and you never replied back, and I was even going to watch a video you gave a link to.

Here are some scriptures to show you that those who say Paul taught another gospel than the one Jesus taught are wrong:

Jesus gave his Last Will and Testament/Covenant.

Hebrews 9

The Mediator’s Death Necessary

16For where there is a testament, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. 17For a testament is in force after men are dead, since it has no power at all while the testator lives. 18Therefore not even the first covenant was dedicated without blood. 19For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and goats, with water, scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book itself and all the people, 20saying, “This is the blood of the covenant which God has commanded you.” 21Then likewise he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle and all the vessels of the ministry. 22And according to the law almost all things are purified with blood, and without shedding of blood there is no remission.

Hebrews 7:22 By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament.

Paul is the minister of the one and only New Covenant that Jesus made.

2 Corinthians 3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

2 Corinthians 3:14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.

Revelation 11:19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.

 

[complete]

You don't want to answer any questions but you want me to get you the scriptures. I replied to your other posts and you never replied back, and I was even going to watch a video you gave a link to.

Here are some scriptures to show you that those who say Paul taught another gospel than the one Jesus taught are wrong:

Jesus gave his Last Will and Testament/Covenant.

Hebrews 9

The Mediator’s Death Necessary

16For where there is a testament, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. 17For a testament is in force after men are dead, since it has no power at all while the testator lives. 18Therefore not even the first covenant was dedicated without blood. 19For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and goats, with water, scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book itself and all the people, 20saying, “This is the blood of the covenant which God has commanded you.” 21Then likewise he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle and all the vessels of the ministry. 22And according to the law almost all things are purified with blood, and without shedding of blood there is no remission.

Hebrews 7:22 By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament.

Paul is the minister of the one and only New Covenant that Jesus made.

2 Corinthians 3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

2 Corinthians 3:14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.

Revelation 11:19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.

Hello @God's Truth,

* I gave you a link to a website which best reflects what I believe, and not to a video.

* I apologise if I have missed your responses to me, there have been so many postings to other members too, that I have found it impossible to keep track. I do not make a habit of not responding, so it is not deliberate.

* I have not read your post fully, so will do so before replying, which will be tomorrow now, God Willing, for it is now time for sleep here in the UK.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[GodB4Us]

Your grade: D-

2 Timothy 2:24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, 25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; 26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

1 Corinthians 3:5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man? 6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase. 7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.

Galatians 6:1Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted. 2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ. 3 For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself. 4 But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another.

Romans 12:1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. 2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith. 4 For as we have many members in one body, and all members have not the same office: 5 So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another. 6 Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith; 7 Or ministry, let us wait on our ministering: or he that teacheth, on teaching; 8 Or he that exhorteth, on exhortation: he that giveth, let him do it with simplicity; he that ruleth, with diligence; he that sheweth mercy, with cheerfulness. 9 Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good. 10 Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another;

May God cause the increase in your walk and in His ministry through you.

 

[complete]

@Complete said (reply #239]

It is a last will and Testament because Jesus is a man, and the Testament is a Covenant because Jesus is God.​

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Jesus came and taught us how to be a child of God, an heir. Do you know that?​

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Jesus taught us what as an heir will receive.​

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Then Jesus died and the Testament/Covenant went into force.​

Hello @God's Truth,

You have made several claims here which I would ask you to supply the relevant Scriptures for, please?

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God's Truth said (reply #344):-

Here are some scriptures to show you that those who say Paul taught another gospel than the one Jesus taught are wrong:​

​

Jesus gave his Last Will and Testament/Covenant.​

The Mediator’s Death Necessary - Hebrews 9:16-22​

​

16For where there is a testament, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. 17For a testament is in force after men are dead, since it has no power at all while the testator lives. 18Therefore not even the first covenant was dedicated without blood. 19For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and goats, with water, scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book itself and all the people, 20saying, “This is the blood of the covenant which God has commanded you.” 21Then likewise he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle and all the vessels of the ministry. 22And according to the law almost all things are purified with blood, and without shedding of blood there is no remission.​

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Hebrews 7:22 By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament.​

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- Paul is the minister of the one and only New Covenant that Jesus made.​

2 Corinthians 3:6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.​

2 Corinthians 3:14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.​

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Revelation 11:19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.​

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Hello @God's Truth,

You have provided references which you believe provide Scriptural proof of the validity of what you have said concerning Christ. in your previous post to me, which I have pasted at the beginning of this reply.

* Your references show that the Lord Jesus Christ (now risen) has become the Mediator of a New Covenant (Hebrews 12:24), a 'better covenant' (Hebrews 8:6) which God had made known in advance through the Old Testament Prophets (Jeremiah 31:31-34) and which He will yet make with - 'the house of Israel and the house of Judah' (Hebrews 8:8). The Old Covenant being 'ready to vanish away' (Hebrews 8:13). Notice It had not gone, but was 'ready' to vanish away.

* I am sorry, @God's Truth, but I cannot see that these references provided, give evidence that what you have said in your previous post (quoted above) is a true interpretation of those Scriptures, or of the person and work of the Lord Jesus Christ.

* You also introduce the subject of the ministry of Paul, which I will be happy to address in another thread. This present thread has already been derailed, but to introduce yet another subject is confusing things even further.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[God's Truth]

Hello @God's Truth,

You have provided references which you believe provide Scriptural proof of the validity of what you have said concerning Christ. in your previous post to me, which I have pasted at the beginning of this reply.

* Your references show that the Lord Jesus Christ (now risen) has become the Mediator of a New Covenant (Hebrews 12:24), a 'better covenant' (Hebrews 8:6) which God had made known in advance through the Old Testament Prophets (Jeremiah 31:31-34) and which He will yet make with - 'the house of Israel and the house of Judah' (Hebrews 8:8). The Old Covenant being 'ready to vanish away' (Hebrews 8:13). Notice It had not gone, but was 'ready' to vanish away.

The Old Covenant is gone.

* I am sorry, @God's Truth, but I cannot see that these references provided, give evidence that what you have said in your previous post (quoted above) is a true interpretation of those Scriptures, or of the person and work of the Lord Jesus Christ.

You probably don't even remember what the discussion was about, do you?
I explained to you that when Jesus had his earthly ministry, he taught his last will and testament, he taught the new covenant, and then he died for it.

Who would EVER go against that? Think about it, the saved are called HEIRS. Think about is some more, study about what an heir is.

* You also introduce the subject of the ministry of Paul, which I will be happy to address in another thread. This present thread has already been derailed, but to introduce yet another subject is confusing things even further.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

The ministry of Paul, is the ministry of the new covenant/testament that Jesus made while alive.
I would be glad to discuss it with you, let me know when you make the thread.

 

[AnneOminous]

Can I be of assistance? I remember.

You said-

It is a last will and Testament because Jesus is a man, and the Testament is a Covenant because Jesus is God.

Jesus came and taught us how to be a child of God, an heir. Do you know that?

Jesus taught us what as an heir will receive.

Then Jesus died and the Testament/Covenant went into force.

Then Chris nicely asked-

You have made several claims here which I would ask you to supply the relevant Scriptures for, please?

But you didn't answer that question, but tried to dodge it with a diversion- as if you had answered it, which you didn't.

So Chris asked nicely and specifically once more--

Where are we told in Scripture that the New Covenant is the Lord's last will and testament?

And here we are.

You probably don't even remember what the discussion was about, do you?

But we do.

 

[God's Truth]

Can I be of assistance? I remember.

You said-


Then Chris nicely asked-



But you didn't answer that question, but tried to dodge it with a diversion- as if you had answered it, which you didn't.

So Chris asked nicely and specifically once more--


And here we are.


But we do.

You are lost. I gave the scriptures. Look at post 244.
This is your problem with many things. You falsely judge me. You are just bent on doing that.

 

[Bethel]

Remember this is not “Sunday School”, once a week “bible class” or ask your pastor radio program. This is “Talk Jesus”. Com. Give “Holy Scripture” back up your answer or refer to scripture in context pertaining to the post. A hint “people always get it wrong.” The reason why, he did not condemn her.

God does not condemn.
Jesus is God.

Its the law that judges and condemns.
Its your conscience that condemns.
Its other people who will condemn you.
Its your own words that condemn you.
Its your Christ rejection that damns you, and that is this :

John 3:36

 

[PloughBoy]

God does not condemn.
Jesus is God.

Its the law that judges and condemns.
Its your conscience that condemns.
Its other people who will condemn you.
Its your own words that condemn you.
Its your Christ rejection that damns you, and that is this :

John 3:36

Your quote:
“GOD does not condemn, Jesus is “GOD”
I hate to burst your bubble, But “Jesus The Christ of GOD” is The Only SON of GOD. For He is “part of “The Triune” For The Comprehension of the “finite mind”, “GOD the FATHERl, “GOD the SON” and “GOD” The “HOLY GHOST”

A definition for the “Comprehension” to The finite to explain that which is “Infinite” and “Incomprehensible” to the finite mind.

“The Triune GOD” in essence “The Trinty”
A GOD that cannot be Comprehend by a “Finite Mind”.

1+1+1=1 but if you like; 1x1x1= 1

You choose.

 

[Bethel]

Your quote:
“GOD does not condemn, Jesus is “GOD”
I hate to burst your bubble, But “Jesus The Christ of GOD” is The Only SON of GOD.

Jesus identified Himself as God to both the Pharisees and to Thomas, and in other ways.

1 Timothy 3:16 says that Jesus is God
John 1:10 says that Jesus is God.
Colossians 1:16 says that Jesus is God.

Its not up to me to prove it.
Its up to you to believe it.
Thats on you.

 

[PloughBoy]

Jesus identified Himself as God to both the Pharisees and to Thomas, and in other ways.

1 Timothy 3:16 says that Jesus is God
John 1:10 says that Jesus is God.
Colossians 1:16 says that Jesus is God.

Its not up to me to prove it.
Its up to you to believe it.
Thats on you.

And this is what modern day Christianity has become and growing stronger everyday.
It is not that he is not GOD but He is The Only Son of GOD. The Son and The FATHER are not The Same. But there is only one “GOD” a human mind cannot conceive this concept. The Triune GOD.

What causes this; “a corrupted vessel” a mortal, sinner, a unholy person, environment, “all creation” collectively, Since the fall! “Blinded by GOD” to the Truth and unveiled in “The Anointed of GOD”

 

[Bill]

At Pentecost they did for why Jesus told them to wait.

Correct, but they were Christians before recieving the Holy Spirit.

I am saying , these are 2 different events

 

[Bill]

Your grade: D-

Can i be graded ?

 

[Sue D.]

John 10:30. I and my father are one.

 

[detniona]

John 10:30. I and my father are one.

What is their name?

 

[Sue D.]

They are Jesus Christ and God the Father. Jesus Christ being the 2nd person of the Godhead / trinity

 

[Bethel]

And this is what modern day Christianity has become and growing stronger everyday.
It is not that he is not GOD but He is The Only Son of GOD. The Son and The FATHER are not The Same. But there is only one “GOD” a human mind cannot conceive this concept. The Triune GOD.

What causes this; “a corrupted vessel” a mortal, sinner, a unholy person, environment, “all creation” collectively, Since the fall! “Blinded by GOD” to the Truth and unveiled in “The Anointed of GOD”

Can you post something that makes sense, that is actually connected to the post you are trying to disprove?

So, like i told you. You do not have to believe in the Deity of Christ. However, He does., and you can deal with that., PB.