Why Jesus could not condemn the Woman who was caught in the very act of adultery?

[Shaolin]

Now Bill, you got to laugh ok, “GOD got Feathers”
Now laugh Bill! Ok, response to The post but laugh! I ain’t ain’t never heard than one before.

I going to have to look that one up!

I heard beneath his wings But I have never heard about “Feathers” in that context.

Not one dull moment on, “TALKJESUS. COM”!

In case you aren't playing with a full deck...what are wings made of? Duh...a..."feathers"...

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[PloughBoy]

In case you aren't playing with a full deck...what are wings made of? Duh...a..."feathers"...

In case you aren't playing with a full deck...what are wings made of? Duh...a..."feathers"...

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Sorry I am not playing.

 

[PloughBoy]

No, that is not what I am saying...and you demonstrate that you believe in false doctrine straight out of calvinism.

Every covenant has covenant law, and the covenant law of the New Covenant is the Law of Christ. If you do not walk in obedience to the law of Christ, then you are no longer abiding in Christ, the New Covenant. And in that case, you do not have saving grace. Scripture speaks of two kinds of grace: common grace (the love of God for all mankind), and covenant saving grace, which you ONLY have IF you are abiding in Christ.

When Paul speaks of law, you have to be spiritual enough to understand which law he is speaking about, for example:

Romans 3:20
For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin.

But in chapter two he says...

Romans 2:13
For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law who will be justified.

By your comment, you demonstrate that you can't tell which law Paul addresses at what time. In Rom. 3:20 he speaks of the law of Moses, the 10 commandments - no one today can be justified by obedience to this law because it has been done away with and replaced by the law of Christ. In Rom. 2:13 he speaks of the law of Christ - to see it any other way is to say that Paul is either crazy, confused, or contradicting himself. He is NOT contradicting himself.

You are still under law today, it is just a different law...and if you dismiss that clear Biblical fact, then you demonstrate yourself (again) to be a false teacher.

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Again I am not playing.

 

[Shaolin]

Again I am not playing.

Not with a full deck, we can all see that.

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[PloughBoy]

Not with a full deck, we can all see that.

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I’m quite sure. Light has that type of effect.

 

[Bill]

So...you intend that the rocks Moses smote was ACTUALLY Jesus? If so, then you also believe that God is a giant bird because many passages say He has feathers.

If you can't tell the difference between what is literal and what is meant to be taken as figurative, then how can anyone here ever take you seriously?

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You say you read the Scripture . I quoted the New Testiment .

 

[Bill]

So...you intend that the rocks Moses smote was ACTUALLY Jesus? If so, then you also believe that God is a giant bird because many passages say He has feathers.

If you can't tell the difference between what is literal and what is meant to be taken as figurative, then how can anyone here ever take you seriously?

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1 Corin 10 : 3 - 5
All ate the same spiritual food and all drank the same spiritual drink, since they all drank from the spiritual rock that followed them as they went, and that rock was Christ. In spite of this, most of them failed to please God and thier corpses littered the desert.

The Christains are today doing the same as the Jews of old, failing to please God. They fail in even the simple things. Love your neighbor as yourself. Spedding the Word. Being your brothers keeper.

They are too consumed with unnessicary teachings like the rapture, thier place in heaven. And many other teachings that take them away from allowing God's love to pour from you.

 

[Bill]

True, but many today fail to understand that Scripture teaches that we only have access to His grace as long as we remain abiding in the New Covenant. The prodigal walked away from God, and while I am sure that Jesus intends for us to understand that God does reach out to people to bring them back, He does not force them to come back. Some people never come back to their senses because they have gone too far into sin and sin deceives them into believing that they are OK when they really are not.

Willful sin against God is rebellion, and God does not tolerate rebellion...not even under the New Covenant.

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You can never go to far into sin . Who ever taugh you that is false.

Pride is the greatest hinderence for going to heaven. Just ask Lucifer.

Lucifer could easily be forgiven, but as scripture states, his pride consumes him.

The Pharoah in Egypt, during Moses time, lost everything because of pride.

Judas , even the betrayal of Jesus, could have been forgiven, but his pride consumed him. He would not accept God and killed himself.

Scripture states, nothing is impossible for God. But when our pride steps in, we dont give God a chance.

Pride is what made Lucifer state his equality to God.

 

[Bill]

The sin of disobedience is not nameless. It is choosing the forbidden knowledge of good and evil.

With reference to the forbidden knowledge of good and evil they committed the sin of staying unclothed in God's most holy presence.

Don't confuse between physical nakedness & moral nakedness. The latter is the problem.

They disobeyed God , plain and simple

 

[PloughBoy]

They disobeyed God , plain and simple

Now that was simple, for a blind man can understand see that one.

 

[Truth_seeker2022]

They disobeyed God , plain and simple

Without admitting the problem of choosing the forbidden knowledge of good and evil there is no repentance possible.

 

[Bill]

Now that was simple, for a blind man can understand see that one.

I did not understand your reply

 

[Garee]

I havent heard that phrase but it's very true. Lol

I have heard it .It makes the law its appointed for all men as sinners to die once to no effect ..


Again men die once. Then the death of death .the letter of the law. Death with its sufferings of hell will not rise up and condemn through corruption another whole creation .

Revelation 20:14 And death and (or as) hell (suffering) were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death

 

[Garee]

You really need to quit adding your words to scripture.
Hades/Hell whatever you wan to call it, is a temporary place.
The Lake of Fire is a permanent place. No one will die there.. you are right death itself will be thrown into the Lake of Fire.
But the pain, agony and suffering... is eternal.

There is no verse that says pain and suffering will be done away with.

Really ?

All die not receiving the promised of, a new body that will never die .

Where did the idea come from that things will continue on as before they received the new body?

I agree the Lake of Fire is a permanent place.

Revelation 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

 

[PloughBoy]

I did not understand your reply

The meaning was: you Got a “A Plus”, concerning that reply for that post!
Well done!

 

[Garee]

Why would God say they were naked for He created them to live undressed.

They didn't see but the forbidden knowledge of good and evil made them see they were morally undressed (Genesis 3:11).

It seems from a certain perspective coming from the Holy Spirit mankind's newly acquired nakedness' became their shame and they tied to hide it, again in shame ..

Genesis 3:7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

God did not say they were naked . God approaches and asks “who said you were naked?”

God did not say they were naked? From God’s perspective of the revelation they were spirits clothed in a body.

 

[Bill]

It seems from a certain perspective coming from the Holy Spirit mankind's newly acquired nakedness' became their shame and they tied to hide it, again in shame ..

Genesis 3:7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

God did not say they were naked . God approaches and asks “who said you were naked?”

God did not say they were naked? From God’s perspective of the revelation they were spirits clothed in a body.

The temple of the Holy Spirit

 

[Truth_seeker2022]

It seems from a certain perspective coming from the Holy Spirit mankind's newly acquired nakedness' became their shame and they tied to hide it, again in shame ..

Genesis 3:7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

God did not say they were naked . God approaches and asks “who said you were naked?”

God did not say they were naked? From God’s perspective of the revelation they were spirits clothed in a body.

They didn't try to hide their bodies from God. Instead they tried to hide due to moral guilt. Fig leaves can hide the body but not morally.

 

[Garee]

They didn't try to hide their bodies from God. Instead they tried to hide due to moral guilt. Fig leaves can hide the body but not morally.

Because they tried to hide their body from moral guilt they used fig leaves to accomplish it.

 

[Shaolin]

You can never go to far into sin . Who ever taugh you that is false.

Nope...that is false doctrine straight out of calvinism, bill. What you just claimed above is NOT taught in Scripture, calvin came up with that nonsense from the demons he was listening to...

2 John 1:9*
Whoever does not abide in the teachings of Christ, but instead goes beyond what He has taught us, that person does not have God. Those who do abide in His teaching, the same has both the Father and the Son.

This is just one of many that demonstrate the error of your claim.

Pride is the greatest hinderence for going to heaven. Just ask Lucifer. Lucifer could easily be forgiven, but as scripture states, his pride consumes him.

Exactly where do you get THAT nonsense from? In order for demons to be able to be forgiven, since they were individually created beings, Christ would have to die for each and every one of them separately. I am sorry, but you are the one listening to false teachers and false doctrines.

The Pharoah in Egypt, during Moses time, lost everything because of pride. Judas , even the betrayal of Jesus, could have been forgiven, but his pride consumed him. He would not accept God and killed himself. Scripture states, nothing is impossible for God. But when our pride steps in, we dont give God a chance. Pride is what made Lucifer state his equality to God.

That's nice and all, but is does not have anything to do with the OP.

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