Women keep silent in the churches

[Twistie]

God set the roles with Adam and Eve. Did he stutter? No.
Is the scripture that says "Women can do everything in the church." (not exact words of course). No.
Were there some women who did more and by God's command? YES.
Messenger is NOT an authoritative position.
I do recall that these woman also had a man WITH her to ensure she didn't falter.
Let's remember good old Miriam. EVERY time someone uses her as an excuse they "conveniently" leave out the part where she and her brother questioned God. Her brother immediately repented and asked in for her but God said no. He gave her leprosy for a week and after that, she NEVER questioned God again.
The requirements for pastor/preacher are clear. They are ALL in the male definitive. A woman can NOT be "husband of one wife".
Joyce Myers is the WORST of the women who have no business in front of a church.

Like I said they r temples n not of YH many r stuck in a traditional worship that has been taught to them by the ones before them..
Pride keeps men and woman stuck right where they r.. as long as there is blind that are eager to get there ears tickled n willing to pay man /woman money to repeat what they themselves could read it gonna continue till the Lord comes..

Twistie

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

They can teach anywhere BUT from in front of the pulpit.
This "women can do everything but men cannot." garbage has to stop. God put women under man b/c of her own fault.
It is man's heavy responsibility to teach his wife and children of God the right way no matter who's fee fees get hurt. She is his Helper not "slave" as some people vomit up as a bad excuse.

If this is true, why does it clash with the bible?

 

[Twistie]

If this is true, why does it clash with the bible?

Pride pride pride calling themselves teachers it's written we have only One Teacher.. many r in the world of false light n don't even know it..YH told me they think they sit comfortably in the Light while they run amok in darkness

Twistie

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

Pride pride pride calling themselves teachers it's written we have only One Teacher.. many r in the world of false light n don't even know it..YH told me they think they sit comfortably in the Light while they run amok in darkness

Twistie

So you lash out and don't answer a simple question? Are you sure it was Jesus told you that? Frankly, what 'they' do is none of your business so why would Jesus tell you about it?

 

[Twistie]

So you lash out and don't answer a simple question? Are you sure it was Jesus told you that? Frankly, what 'they' do is none of your business so why would Jesus tell you about it?

Luke 17:21
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

Mark 13:21
And then if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Christ!’ or ‘Look, there he is!’ do not believe it.

Isaiah 22
16 What hast thou here? and whom hast thou here, that thou hast hewed thee out a sepulchre here, [as] he that heweth him out a sepulchre on high, [and] that graveth an habitation for himself in a rock?

Jeremiah 7:4
“Trust ye not in lying words, saying, The temple of the LORD, The temple of the LORD, The temple of the LORD, are these.”

Jer. 7
8Behold, ye trust in lying words, that cannot profit.
9Will ye steal, murder, and commit adultery, and swear falsely, and burn incense unto Baal, and walk after other gods whom ye know not;
10And come and stand before me in this house, which is called by my name, and say, We are delivered to do all these abominations?
11Is this house, which is called by my name, become a den of robbers in your eyes? Behold, even I have seen it, saith the LORD.

Psalms 143:10 - Teach me to do thy will; for thou [art] my God: thy spirit [is] good; lead me into the land of uprightness.

Jeremiah. 7
3Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, Amend your ways and your doings, and I will cause you to dwell in this place.


So you too hate the Truth call speaking Truth lashing out lol too funny surely you don't know me at all..


Twistie

 

[Twistie]

So you lash out and don't answer a simple question? Are you sure it was Jesus told you that? Frankly, what 'they' do is none of your business so why would Jesus tell you about it?

I didn't say Jesus told me that I said the Father.. and why would He speak to me lol cause He's my Father.. do u not Hear YH??...

For it is written for those who have ears...


Twistie

 

[B-A-C]

I didn't say Jesus told me that I said the Father.. and why would He speak to me lol cause He's my Father.. do u not Hear YH??...

1Tim 2:5; For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,

There are a few scriptures that say Jesus is the "go-between" in communications between men and the Father. Do you have scriptures that say
we don't need a mediator?

 

[Twistie]

1Tim 2:5; For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,

There are a few scriptures that say Jesus is the "go-between" in communications between men and the Father. Do you have scriptures that say
we don't need a mediator?

Haven't got one of the top of my head but perhaps ya should ponder with YH and seek He will answer ya know...

I don't have the time to seek answers you want imma about to go into surgery in less than 24 hrs n I have my own pondering I wanna do with ya..


This why so many christians are lost they want answers from man then wanna be spoon fed it by man.. I may sound a bit short but honestly you can seek the Word for yourself...????


I personally don't care if one believes I talk to the Father... I know who I am in Him.. He showed me where I branch off.. have you even sought who you r in Him like where u branch of in Him??....


Like I said I'm getting ready for surgery I hope u start seeking YH for answers instead of man..


Twistie

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

I didn't say Jesus told me that I said the Father.. and why would He speak to me lol cause He's my Father.. do u not Hear YH??...

For it is written for those who have ears...


Twistie

If He is your father why are you speaking like satan is your father? Do you always speak to your family with such judgmental anger? Just asking....

 

[Twistie]

If He is your father why are you speaking like satan is your father? Do you always speak to your family with such judgmental anger? Just asking....

Oh so Satan speaks the Truth n YH tickles your ears? Ya got it backwards.. I assume your grown so why do you want sugar coating lies spoken to you.. or is it you don't Hear YH??

Twistie

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

Oh so Satan speaks the Truth n YH tickles your ears? Ya got it backwards.. I assume your grown so why do you want sugar coating lies spoken to you.. or is it you don't Hear YH??

What truth are you speaking? Women are to keep silent? Really? That doctrine directly conntradicts the Word....The Worrd lists prophets and preachers in the bible who were women. And God blessed those women...He would not have blessed them if they were in disobedience

I stand at "deaths door" My legs no longer work and I see my end drawing close...I don't dare not spending time with HIM. So don't judge me kid. I have enough o my hands I won't lie in His name just to make you or anyone else happy. Just say what the Word says

 

[Twistie]

What truth are you speaking? Women are to keep silent? Really? That doctrine directly conntradicts the Word....The Worrd lists prophets and preachers in the bible who were women. And God blessed those women...He would not have blessed them if they were in disobedience

I stand at "deaths door" My legs no longer work and I see my end drawing close...I don't dare not spending time with HIM. So don't judge me kid. I have enough o my hands I won't lie in His name just to make you or anyone else happy. Just say what the Word says

It's totally ova your head you need to spend more time with YH n ponder with Him.. flesh gives birth to flesh only Spirit can birth spirit.. as for me I am preparing for surgery.. I surely hope you decide to fast on to YH instead of seeking man for answers..

Many know not the season


Twistie

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

It's totally ova your head you need to spend more time with YH n ponder with Him.. flesh gives birth to flesh only Spirit can birth spirit.. as for me I am preparing for surgery.. I surely hope you decide to fast on to YH instead of seeking man for answers..

Many know not the season


Twistie

Your arrogance is staggering. I hope you can get past that.

 

[Twistie]

Your arrogance is staggering. I hope you can get past that.

Not arrogance I just know what I am talking about... I hope ya fast unto YH..


Twistie

 

[Admon Mikha'el]

Not arrogance I just know what I am talking about... I hope ya fast unto YH..


Twistie

Hugs on you sir.

 

[MedicBravo]

Do you have scripture?



Not sure I am following.



Medic, I am not sure what point you are trying to make. Care to better explain?

Please.
This topic has been an issue for most of history. Acts 29 is a great summary of pastor/preacher requirements with Titus and Timothy to back it.

1. A pastor must be devoted to his wife; one-woman man (Titus 1:6; 1 Tim 3:2). The pastor’s marriage illustrates Christ’s love for His church—His bride (Eph. 5:22 ff.). A Pastor must love his wife exclusively with his mind, will and emotions and not just his body.
2. A pastor’s children must be in submission, though not perfect (Titus 1:6; 1 Tim 3:4-5). If a man does not know how to manage his own family, he will not know how to take care of God’s church. The first flock for a pastor is his own family as Pastor Dad. A Pastor’s qualification for the church starts in his home management as he leads them up in the discipline and admonition of the Lord (Eph. 6:4).
3. A pastor is a faithful steward (Titus 1:7). Here the term used is overseer (Greek episkopos). It is not another office, but a functional title of the elder. It is what he does. He is a steward, a manager of God’s resources and Jesus’ flock. He takes responsibility, but not ownership.
4. A pastor must be humble — not arrogant (Titus 1:7). A pastor must constantly demonstrate the gospel by admitting when he is wrong and assuming responsibility and restoring relationships.
5. A pastor must be gentle — not quick-tempered (Titus 1:7; 1 Tim 3:3). No man will be of any use in the kingdom that is quick-tempered. The difference between how Jesus demonstrated anger is that He was angry at the abuse of others in the name of religion and the dishonoring of God. We get angry at how it affects us.
6. A pastor must be sober — not a drunkard (Titus 1:7; 1 Tim 3:3). This is not just overindulgence in alcohol but is idiomatic for any behavior that fuels addictive responses.
7. A pastor must be peaceful — not violent (Titus 1:7; 1 Tim 3:3). A pastor is prone to inflict violence through his words. He is to be a peacemaker.
8. A pastor must have financial integrity — not greedy for gain (Titus 1:7; 1 Tim 3:3; 1 Peter 5:3). A pastor is to be upright in his financial dealings and not accused of pursuing money over the kingdom of God.
9. A pastor must be hospitable (Titus 1:8; 1 Tim 3:2). A pastor’s home is to be open for others to enjoy. A pastor’s home is not a heaven on earth, but rather a place of ministry.
10. A pastor must be a lover of good (Titus 1:8). A pastor genuinely loves what is good. He does not just think he should love it.
11. A pastor must be self-controlled (Titus 1:8; 1 Tim 3:2). Self-control is a characterization of every area of a pastor’s life: diet, time, mouth, exercise, relationships, sex, and money.
12. A pastor must be upright (Titus 1:8). He has integrity in his relationships and in how he treats others.
13. A pastor must be holy (Titus 1:8). His life is devoted wholeheartedly to Jesus externally and internally.
14. A pastor must be able to teach (Titus 1:9; 1 Tim 3:2). All of the other qualifications are character qualities. This is the only ability-based requirement. He is to be able to teach sound doctrine, not just be able to communicate in an excellent manner. His teaching can be to one or two, to twenty, to a hundred or to a thousand. Most of the churches in Crete were house churches. The elders were to defend the faith once delivered to the saints against the numerous false teachers that arose.
15. A pastor must be spiritually mature (1 Tim 3:6). Positions of authority without spiritual maturity lead to the trap of pride. When pride grows in a man, sin abounds.
16. A pastor must be respectable (1 Tim 3:7). That does not mean that everyone must like him or even appreciate him. It means that there is no credible witness to an ongoing sinful behavior.
17. A pastor must be an example to the flock (1 Peter 5:3). Elders are examples of biblical expressions sexually, time management, marriage, parenting, worship, relationships and any other way. A pastor should be someone your sons could pattern their life after and the kind of man your daughter should marry.

I know some people are going to nitpick this and "But this man and that man didn't do all of these perfectly, blah blah." as an excuse.
Messenger is not an authoritative position. Prophet is not an authoritative position. Disciple is not an authoritative position. Jesus ONLY gave the 12 the authority of such.
Men can't do everything in the church. Women can't do everything in the church together they can and should.
Women can teach the children as long as the info is approved by an trained authority in the church. They can teach other women with the same backing.
What many do not know is that should a preacher/pastor falter in any of these including a divorce, substance abuse, etc. he MUST, MUST step down until those problems are fixed.
On that God and the Bible are CLEAR who is to lead and teach the church.

 

[Twistie]

Hugs on you sir.

God set the roles with Adam and Eve. Did he stutter? No.
Is the scripture that says "Women can do everything in the church." (not exact words of course). No.
Were there some women who did more and by God's command? YES.
Messenger is NOT an authoritative position.
I do recall that these woman also had a man WITH her to ensure she didn't falter.
Let's remember good old Miriam. EVERY time someone uses her as an excuse they "conveniently" leave out the part where she and her brother questioned God. Her brother immediately repented and asked in for her but God said no. He gave her leprosy for a week and after that, she NEVER questioned God again.
The requirements for pastor/preacher are clear. They are ALL in the male definitive. A woman can NOT be "husband of one wife".
Joyce Myers is the WORST of the women who have no business in front of a church.

Setting roles has nothing to do with the temples claiming they r of YH yet are not . Most can't even tell their right from their left no mo.. have no clue of what season we r in n only see flesh n blood I dont get it... drives me batty most times it does but the spirit sound foolish to the flesh because it must be revealed by The Holy Spirit n the only way that will happen is if one Ask the Spirit..


Twistie

 

[Twistie]

God set the roles with Adam and Eve. Did he stutter? No.
Is the scripture that says "Women can do everything in the church." (not exact words of course). No.
Were there some women who did more and by God's command? YES.
Messenger is NOT an authoritative position.
I do recall that these woman also had a man WITH her to ensure she didn't falter.
Let's remember good old Miriam. EVERY time someone uses her as an excuse they "conveniently" leave out the part where she and her brother questioned God. Her brother immediately repented and asked in for her but God said no. He gave her leprosy for a week and after that, she NEVER questioned God again.
The requirements for pastor/preacher are clear. They are ALL in the male definitive. A woman can NOT be "husband of one wife".
Joyce Myers is the WORST of the women who have no business in front of a church.

Like it's written let the blind alone for the blind will follow n both will fall in a ditch...

If one don't know what season one is one one can get snared in the worries of the world.. Yeshua has showed us the walk it's up to one to walk it no one can walk for another one must keep himself in check understand what they r surrounding themselves with.. His children know what we r supposed to do...yet people just want to continually argue about who should b exhalted n who shouldn't meanwhile they themselves are not even Glorifying the Lord and giving glory..

Joyce Myers is one of thousands that steal from the blind that's what most these temples do...

Twistie

 

[lentz]

This subject is where i find humor in todays denominations.
When Jesus gave the disciples their commission,people say he was talking to everyone. Even those not born yet. And other such instructions. But when scripture says a woman is to keep silent,oh it was just that one church.
He also told Titus the same thing at another church.
Very selective doctrine huh?

 

[Twistie]

This subject is where i find humor in todays denominations.
When Jesus gave the disciples their commission,people say he was talking to everyone. Even those not born yet. And other such instructions. But when scripture says a woman is to keep silent,oh it was just that one church.
He also told Titus the same thing at another church.
Very selective doctrine huh?

Where is a true church of YH snap let's see if one a true on can b found in today's society..

If there was a true one it would b in order with true leaders appt by YH n YH alone for the Father n Son is one Will ey? .. all I see all around me is a business ran organization following idk wat if I can't see YH in there I know they r not of my flock..n i can just about expect to b asked to leave.. n so I do.. wat I haven't done is shake the dust of my shoes n I must start...

N wat really gets me is I get attacked by people for speaking out the Truth about wat these temples are doing n wat they r like..

I know who I am n it's not from anything I done..

Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake,
For theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed to us.

Yours, O Lord, is the greatness and the power and the glory and the victory and the majesty, for all that is in the heavens and in the earth is yours. Yours is the kingdom, O Lord, and you are exalted as head above all.

Twistie